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Conservative Conundrum: Judge Blocks Trump from Forcing Drug Makers to Reveal Prices

Federal Circuit judge blocks President Trump from forcing drug makers to reveal prices in their advertising. But D.C. Circuit Judge Amit Mehta did so by saying a regulatory agency doesn’t have authority to require this: Congress must pass a law. How can conservatives grapple with two objects of their desire in conflict — the end of Obamacare, and a commitment to Constitutional separation of powers.

Federal Circuit judge blocks President Trump from forcing drug makers to reveal prices in their advertising. But D.C. Circuit Judge Amit Mehta did so by saying a regulatory agency doesn’t have authority to require this: Congress must pass a law. How can conservatives grapple with two objects of their desire in conflict — the end of Obamacare, and a commitment to Constitutional separation of powers.

10 replies on “Conservative Conundrum: Judge Blocks Trump from Forcing Drug Makers to Reveal Prices”

I WISH I’d come here sooner! The link below points out that executive orders CANNOT be denied by any court. You may disagree, but in my research, after reading the link, the guy MAY have a point.

You may not wish to read it all, but it’s (I think) a plausible take.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=236295

Please read down. What he points out is that there is language in EVERY executive order that points out that an executive order is NOT law. It is a directive to the President’s branch of government on how that branch will act.

Bill is right. When Obama wrote them, Congress let him do what he wanted. When Trump does the same, COURTS intruded. Something is wrong.

Exec Orders bad but the President is elected and accountable to the voters. A judge is appointed for life (even after they’re dottering old fools w/ no clue as to what’s going on in the real world) and almost completely unaccountable. When was the last time a Federal Judge was impeached and removed from office?

Here’s a suggestion for Bill and Scott on their “Bill Whittle Now” show.
Now and then as I’m watching, the discussion gets interesting enough that it can be difficult, especially if you’re not a regular viewer, to tell that our commentators (esp. Scott) is playing a role.

Might it serve your overall purpose to devise a graphic for Scott that reads “Role: Devil’s Advocate” or “Today’s Role: Progressive Pundit” which could include a pitchfork or other fun graphic. It would alert the viewer to what is being played at rather than taking the time away from the discussion to call attention to the fact that Scott is not nearly as mislead as he is pretending to be (with a great amount of skill, I might add.)

Since the roles with graphic identifiers become obvious, it might even be fun to “switch hats” every now and then to watch Bill play the progressive pundit and have Scott debate the issues as “Today’s Role: Voice of Reason”.

I hope my thoughts are helpful and inspire you gents to produce even more great content.

God bless…

David

Yes – the thing is that archived BWnow shows become BWthen. It think if the show was named Bill Whittle Versus The Devil’s Advocate it would describe it better. Scott could put on red face paint and a set of horns for each episode…

Hey Justice Roberts, here’s yet another “Obama judge.
Every time you turn around, another one pops up just in time.

In a Constitutionally perfect world, the Congress would represent the citizens and pass laws protecting them from multinational corporations. In our world, executive orders must be used to make these companies release their drug prices. In a Constitutionally perfect world, judges would stick to the law as written and circuit court judges would not rule on matters outside their jurisdiction. In our world, we need to appoint our own judges and use them to block the leftists at every turn. Either that happens or we lose by the rules every time.

At least they handed an issue to President Trump on a silver platter with this one. He just has to point out that multi-national corporate giants are terrified at the prospect of revealing their prices to their customers.

I don’t think we can make the conservative argument anymore with respect to accomplishing change. Our government was set up to work with a moral society and we are no longer a moral society. That and the fact that if Congress is made up of the opposing party, nothing gets done. Hence, executive orders.

That said, another approach would be to take advantage of laws that already exist on the books related to price gouging and utilize the FDA to effectuate change. Medical devices should also be included as their costs are also hidden from the end customer.

The FDA is authorized to create new legislation related to food, drugs, cosmetics and medical devices. Proposed laws go before advocacy groups such as AdvaMed (U.S.) and EucoMed (Europe) for industry feedback. In the end, they can choose to incorporate that feedback or not into the final legislation.

The FDA can demand that 1) the original price of a pharmaceutical/device must precede the insurance price on all receipts and 2) define what costs can and cannot be recuperated in the price of a drug/device and be consistent about enforcement. For example, all costs associated with research and development are allowed to be recuperated over a period of X amount of years (fixed number and/or defined range). Once recuperated, the prices must be lowered to subtract those costs. Lastly 3) if they are the only drug/device on the market for a specific indication, they are allowed to add up to a maximum of X% to the price until their patent expires.

Additionally, any costs associated with FDA approval requirements can be deducted from corporate taxes (e.g., clinical studies, internal testing, etc.), and that should be reflected in the pricing as well. But only costs associated with development can be recuperated. Ongoing manufacturing costs after FDA approval would follow existing laws. Often, companies will go for European approval first as it is easier/quicker to obtain. Once any approval is obtained, they should then be treated as retail product from that point forward with the exception of additional FDA requirements to obtain approval in the U.S. Same goes for Japanese approval whose requirements are more stringent than the FDA’s. Most other countries tend to accept European approvals.

There are also a lot of price adjustments made depending on what country drugs and medical devices are sold to as well (market-bearing pricing and price bundling). Japan is charged [exorbitant] premium pricing while Europe is charged much, much less. The U.S. pricing tends to falls between them. I think this is why HHS is looking to the European pricing model to bring down the prices, but I’m not convinced this is the best approach to take – especially without taking into consideration all other business factors involved.

Sorry, this 2 cents turned out to be a nickel.

Bill; for all of his greatness, badly misstates the Myth of Syphisis. Syphisis was punished by the Gods for actual offenses- basically dishonesty and hubris. He got what he deserved.
This has nothing to do with ordinary people who are “condemmed” (having done nothing to deserve their punisfment) to repeat tedious chores with no expectation of success.

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