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Immigrants and others flood into formerly-Republican suburbs, a churn that turns red to blue. If demography is destiny, what can the GOP do? The New York Times profiles a typical voter who came here with Republican values, but turned to Democrats thanks to President Trump’s rhetoric about immigrants. Can conservatives write this off because it’s the Times? Do Republicans have a message that can reach these densely-populated zones?
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16 replies on “Suburban Churn Turns Red to Blue: Demography is Destiny So What Can GOP Do?”
WHY is this typeface so GRAY and hard to read? I am launching a campaign for black letters on a white background, because I am tired of squinting. Glad to be here.
The right is losing because it does not (maybe can not) meet the moral arguments of the left. The left does not talk facts. The left talks about fairness, equality, care for the environment, etc. The right grants the left the moral high ground – mainly because its’ premises are – but tacitly – steeped in the same altruism the left espouses expressly. Yes, we care about the environment, but our mines will provide economic prosperity for others – studies show…. Yes, we care about others – the poor and downtrodden, the handicapped, the mentally ill, the – but let us alone and we’ll have more money to pay in taxes to take care of them – studies show… Yes, we care about unequal wages of others, but studies show…. Yes, capitalism isn’t perfect (you know, cronyism, dishonest businessmen, etc.), but it is better than socialism. And on and on. We have to take back the moral high ground. What is not fair is someone working hard to earn wages only to have someone come and steal half of those wages. We can only be equal if you, say, cut off basketball players’ legs, lobotomize (or as Mao did, kill) anyone with above the lowest intelligence, or education, etc. Capitalism is the only moral economic system. People who work hard deserve to keep what they earn; people who are smart, talented, etc., deserve to be paid whatever they can earn honestly. Americans invented the only moral political system based on the economics of Capitalism. Capitalism means life. It is the extent of socialism in any country that supports cronyism, supports corruption. Socialism/communism/fascism, etc. result in only death. And so on and so on.
At 3:20, Bill said that “…as they (i.e. progressives) start to get older, instead of expecting money coming to them from other people, instead of other’s wealth being redistributed to them, they’re going to start to noticing that some of their wealth is being redistributed to other people and then more and more and more of it.”
Sorry, Bill. These progressives will stay progressive forever and will never become conservative, because as they get older, they will never get off of the teat of government largess. This nation is rewarding idleness by doling out free goodies to keep people from rioting. Rome fell because of bread and circuses. History is finally repeating this failure.
Bill, you need another red pill! If all the blue people leave a state for a red state then the state they left would turn back red! But they’re NOT! They are ALL still BLUE! The reason red states are turning blue is because the people are being raised and turned BLUE! Wake up and smell the coffee!
Scott, the NYT is nothing but an American version of Pravda; a propaganda tool of the Establishment! The immigrant they profiled doesn’t have a red bone in his body! He’s blue to the core! His quote is pure BS. If he were truly conservative, he would have embraced his “separateness” because evil is attracted to packs.
Bill, you need to promote capital punishment for the sake of justice alone and no other reason. Lowering the murder rate is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT! Deterrence is a red herring that distracts from the true reason.
Scott, Republicanism has NOTHING to do with “rugged individualism”! That’s complete nonsense! The reason the GOP is not in power is because of its stance on abortion! The GOP has promoted the right to life as guaranteed by the Declaration of Independent (i.e. LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness). The DNC is in power primarily because God sent a strong delusion (II Th 2:11) to blind the people “that they should believe a lie”. Such is the case with this immigrant.
I agree with Scott. The states are turning blue because of God’s strong delusion. But, I take issue with the term “coordinated” by government. It’s actually “controlled” by government. Which is the whole idea of a central government; control.
Cities will never go away, Bill, because evil thrives in congested places, like rat and cockroach infestations.
Bill, if only 10% of the population has the mindset of a conservative, then by definition, 90% as automatically blue staters! The only thing keeping America from replacing the Constitution IS the Constitution! Pretty soon, the delusionals will realize this and do away with their birth right!
I can more easily believe the newspaper could find an immigrant with the stated views because many people who only get their news from the legacy media have heard only those views from the Trump hating faux-reporters that peddle that fish bait. People who have a diverse set of information sources or enough experience in the country to see how it was vs how it is under the new administration see the difference.
I think the GOP suffers a messaging problem more than a message problem with the younger voters and the immigrants. Youth with tech and apps for everything are going to be more self reliant. The gig economy, trust systems like Yelp or other review sites, GoFundMe and kickstarter and constant job hopping make people more reliant on themselves and the trust framework of a society not a giant, monolithic entity like the old world government, union shops at factories you work at for your whole life or the church that baptized your father, grand father and possibly great grand father. The kinds of things that always were and always will be are somewhat unknown to the youth.
Immigrants are escaping the caste and class systems of their former countries to come someplace where they can be whatever they want to be. The DEM message of “you are your skin color” and “you are the victim of white males” should turn them off. “If I’m a victim, why did I want to come here?” and “If I am nothing more than my skin color, how is that different from my former peasant class or (whatever caste level)? Isn’t this the land of opportunity?” should be the first two questions they ask anyone with a blue Donk shirt.
If enough Progressives, who have ruined California, move out (and onto another state to ruin,) perhaps Conservatives can move into the void left, and recapture California?
I don’t think so… why would conservatives voluntarily move into a high tax, dysfunctional state (especially California, where I live)?
I moved here 35 years ago for a job…
‘Nuff said.
The Grey Lady, or the Old Grey Mare? Or as Andrew Klavan calls it, The New york Times, a former newspaper…”
I am rapidly coming to the opinion that if anyone in your immediate family works for the government, your right to vote should be suspended. The reason is most emphatically your conflict of interest.
Your interest is in growing the government, increasing its power, and increasing taxes. The purpose of which is to increase your power over others and to increase the taking of the wealth of others to pass along to you and other such parasites. All of which is both an anathema and harmful to we who want to remain free of government intrusion in our lives.
We want to live and let live, produce honest goods and services, and trade freely as we see fit without having to ask “mother may I” at every tick of the clock. Especially not of those who produce nothing but still more rules and regulations that make it impossible for us to live, produce, and trade.
‘Flipping around the dial’… boy, it’s been ages since anyone needed to do that! All these phrases we grew up with that now have no meaning to today’s children…
I’ve lived in Virginia for close to 20 years now, and this started long ago. The change to VA has bene a combination of bringing in foreigners and expanding DC’s reach into the northern part of the state where I live. Combine that with the national GOP’s decision to surrender the state long ago. My first insight into this was our 2010 Governor election – the GOP had a good Tea Party Conservative in Ken Cuchinelli running against Clintonista Terry McAuliffe. I watched the months leading up to the election where our airwaves were carpet bombed with negative ads against Ken while the national GOP offered at the end a perfunctory amount of spending while also wasting money on the Governor of NJ’s safe seat in Chris Christie’s.
There’s a lot more I could say on this, but long story short, the Dems have shown their blueprint for overthrowing the country. Ignore it at our peril.
I get calls from the national GOP every election cycle asking for a donation, and I refuse to give them anything, and I let them know why. I can’t remember the exact year, but it was during G W Bush’s term,) we in RI had a good Republican candidate in Steve Laffey. The Republican National Committee backed and endorsed that sorry lump of humanity, (missing) Linc Chaffee, who less than a year later became an Independent, and shortly after that joined the Democrats. I give them the same old grievance every time, because I want them to know that I have a long memory.
I think my money is better spent being a producer at billwhittle.com.
That’s another important point you make – it’s easy to just hang up/walk away, etc. when the GOPe reaches out to us. It’s far more constructive to explain why they can go (copulate) themselves
BB – I live in the SW part of the state (Roanoke) and you are correct in noting when the GOP deserted us. I could not believe that Clinton’s bag man was going to be Gov. This past election (not even two weeks ago) was truly disheartening. Especially since the Ds told everyone exactly what they were going to do if they got both houses, come afteer guns, expand late term abortion. Sure enough, those are first on the hit parade.
GOP can listen to Ron Paul for a change.
People are concerned with immigration because according to them immigrants tend to vote left. However, that is actually not true. While it is true that most immigrants hold leftist and Democrat political beliefs, it is also true that most of them don’t actually vote. Pew research has shown that as of the Mid-term election of 2018, 72.8% of the voter turnout is still Caucasian. The fact that roughly 3/4 of the voters who turned up are Caucasian and that the Democrats won the majority vote in 2016 can only mean that more or less half of Caucasian population is actually voting left.
https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/FT_19.05.01_VoterTurnout_Racialandethnicdiversity.png?w=640
Yet somehow the problem is always laid at the feet of Non-Caucasian immigrants. It is also important to note how the white nationalists that are emerging say nothing about the left-voting/socialist Caucasian immigrants coming from Continental Europe (don’t tell me they don’t exist, I know at least 2 dozens of them in my social network alone). This can only mean that something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
The identity politics game being played up by Democrat puppeteers is a one-stone-two-birds strategy:
On one hand, by vilifying Caucasian identity and victimizing minority/immigrant identities, they get to antagonize right-wing voting block into belligerent reactions which would then serve to scare politically clueless immigrants into voting for them.
On the other hand, by luring the Caucasian right-wing voting block into focusing on immigration policies, they successfully use minority/non-Caucasian immigrant identity as a scapegoat to distract voters from real policy problems such as growing national deficit, a broken banking system, excessive regulations of industries and commerce, high taxation, the failing Ponzi scheme that is Social Security, the ever-expanding cyber surveillance state, the failing war on drugs, the deeply corrupted class of political elites that are not being held accountable for wasting tax payers’ money, the list goes on and on.
As long as the fundamental issues of excessive state interventionism and welfare state are not addressed, restricting immigration will do nothing to solve the problem of failing fertility rate beyond the point of replacement among the U.S. born Caucasian population, the problem of stagnant economy, the increase in crime, unemployment rate and wealth disparity. It’s like when your boat is leaking, and instead of trying to plug the leak, you focus all your effort and energy on splashing out water. It’s futile!
The way things are going, if everything else remains constant, you can reduce the number of legal immigrants to 0, and all these social problems would still remain the same. If anything, it would only intensify the problems as the state, in the absence of substitute working population to pay for welfare, would have to levy even more taxation and implement more regulatory schemes on people of reproductive age to provide coverage for the larger and larger aging population. This in turn, would turn even more and more U.S. born Caucasian voters into leftists and Democrats. A classic example of this is Japan, they have very low level of immigrants, yet their population has been declining all the same over the past decades.
That Pew graph is meaningless regarding Virginia. Look at how it breaks down to just this one state, and pay close attention to how the number compares to 20 & 30 years ago.
Gell-Mann amnesia , credited to Michael Critchton. When you read a newspaper story about something you know well and see that it is filled with errors and then turn the page and believe that the story about which you know nothing is somehow correct.