What happened at the Capitol was definitely instigated by Leftist anarchists. They started it and breached the doors with their tactical gear they had with them which shows the attack was obviously planned. Even though this wasn’t initiated by Trump supporters (many even tried to stop the anarchists), many Trumpers followed their lead. Why? Because they are scared of a Left dominated future, frustrated with the fraud and corruption and lack of justice, and confused.
We constantly listen to Bill and other conservative talking heads and hear it’s time to Fight Back! People get stirred up by rhetoric and want to lash out and are confused at how to vent their anger in a productive way. I know Bill is working on steps and a process to work towards change and most of us members here understand that we must fight this battle in the political realm first before any violent rebellion takes place. But there are 75+ million angry patriots that are told we are a country built on revolution. That we must rise up and fight oppression and tyranny at all costs. That we must fight to protect liberty and freedom. Do you see how all this rhetoric could confuse some into thinking they are being called to action in any form necessary? Since they are not being given any type of organized instruction, they are being left to their own feelings and emotions to figure out what to do.
I’m not sure I can blame anyone for acting out violently right now. Some of us can sit here comfortably and calmly discuss the changes needed. But others are suffering financially and in other ways from the lockdowns and oppression being committed against them. They are at their wits end having no other voice. No legislatures or courts willing to even listen let alone provide any kind of reparations or justice. People are hurting and now, with the illegal takeover of the election results and big tech silencing us and all the other constraints being applied, they see no relief in sight. Biden will shut the country down and get us closer and closer to globalism and our democracy will be lost forever.
So, what do we do?? Wait until we are in concentration camps to revolt? When is the “right” time?? I’m sure people at the time thought those that dumped tea in the harbor were a bunch of idiots. I also hear those saying we can’t resort to violence or the tactics of the Left – we are not those kind of people – we don’t DO that! I feel like we are turning ourselves into the British of the revolution and deciding we are too good to fight on their level while we try to fight in an orderly manner against more effective guerrilla tactics and being picked off one by one. Are we setting ourselves up for failure by taking the high road??
I don’t want violence on any level. I agree with those that condemn the violence, for now, because it is too soon in my opinion. But when will that line be crossed? I am just looking for other opinions if anyone does think violence will be justified and when they time will be? How much of our freedom do we lose before it’s too late?
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But when will that line be crossed?
When it becomes a matter of self-defence, I expect.
When is the time to act?
Passive resistance while you try to implement the changes required to restore effective and trustworthy democratic processes.
When the state starts to use force to implement unconstitutional laws, such as gun confiscation, you have the right to use any means necessary to defend yourself from the criminal at your door.
Should others be attacked, you can choose, or not, to go to their aid.
It really does come down to your decision when they come to your door. If they come to arrest you for illegitimate reasons or to confiscate your property, your must then choose to fight for your freedom or accept in that moment that you and your children are slaves, owned by the democrats.
Couldn’t agree more. The “right” time for us band together and use force with moral authority is if they start coming for the A.R.s door to door. And do not under any circumstances register them. Until then, we have two avenues: trying to restore election integrity all across the country at the local level ( https://billwhittlecom.wpenginepowered.com/election-integrity-party-2022-election-spreadsheet/ ), and advocating for peaceful separation/secession. We have two incompatible worldviews, and you’d think separation would be something the left wants too. If we don’t get enough people in office in 2022 to restore election integrity for the 2024 election, states should secede without permission because states with election integrity should not be forced to live under an unconstitutional system where they are directly affected by voter fraud in other states. Until then, we should also be making the case for why separating legally would be beneficial for both sides.
Across the west, things are getting really scary. Be thankful you have the 2nd amendment, here it the uk we are defenseless if the state decides to come after us.
Oh how I would love to move to the US, even now …. and boy would I have a big pile of guns.
The people of the UK aren’t defenseless. The sheer number of people who are tired of the crap there is amazing. Just like at our Capital building, the numbers were overwhelming.
The real question is, are you too afraid to do anything? How much longer are you going to take it? Does anyone give a crap? If you’re “given” enough to just squeak by, will that be okay? As long as you still have your football and a pint, will that be okay?
Questions the people of many nations need to answer honestly.
Need to have cool heads, make a plan, and then go about taking your country back . . . or don’t.
Just like the U.S., the people ALLOW their “representatives” to abuse them at every turn. A few rule the many.
UK, like the US, needs to decide if you’re going to live a free people or be subjugated as slaves.
We’re all WAY behind the power curve because we believed the lies we’ve been told all our lives. We believed our politicians would represent us if we just elected the “right ones”.
Our eyes have been opened and it’s sad beyond measure . . . but not irreparable. God Speed.
We are defenseless in the physical sense … If it came to needing to use physical force, we would be massacred. The sad thing is, we do not have an electoral system that allows for change. We do not have primaries for example, our candidates are chosen by the parties. Our libertarian party is a bad joke, much like in the US.
The reason i emphasize US politics is my belief that to get meaningful change to things like big tech censorship or digital rights, it needs to happen in the US first.
I will ‘do my part’ as it were, but the real fight for today is in the US.
Yes, I understand. These monsters were created here & live here. Best wishes.
I know plenty of people who own weaponry, particularly in rural areas. it’s just a matter of the correct licensing, training and storage. There are also plenty of other options that do not require any type of licensing at all, but which could be used in the case of societal breakdown.