What if the cancel culture Progressives are not malevolent fascists, but merely following an internal, compulsive drive? What if they’re building a house of cards and they see us as a gale-force obstacle to their success? It’s not that they oppose our views, it’s that they cannot abide anything that doesn’t match their own template for society. If it’s a clinical mental health condition, not just a point of view, then rational argument will continue to fail.
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In the meantime Elon Musk revealed that he has Aspbergers…
Though it may be just his attempt to avoid jail time due to repeated market manipulation on large scale.
I’m far from convinced. I I don’t know what Asperger’s or autism involves in clinical terms, but I see plenty of pics of Dorsey looking straight into the camera and/or smiling – and his smiles are real. think he was bored before the Senate; Twitter is bigger than those guys and for him they were just making noise. And there’s this: if I had the power to stop hearing pro-Biden and pro-Dems and pro-Hillary noise, just maybe I would shut them down. I hope I wouldn’t, but power corrupts us all.
As the father of not one, but TWO young men on the autism spectrum, and probably being an undiagnosed “Aspie” myself I disagree with one key point Mr. Whittle made.
Asperger’s kids do not lack empathy. They lack an appearance of feeling or empathy.
The real problem with autism spectrum people isn’t that they lack feeling. it’s quite the opposite. They are, believe it or not, hypersensitive. To nearly everything.
As Potato Joe would say, “Not a joke!”
They feel so much that many times that robotic, wooden appearance is their coping mechanism and their neural net processor has circuit breakers that shut down.
As anyone who is a care worker in a group home with autism kids and they’ll tell you the place is an absolute ZOO during barometric pressure changes like when a storm front is coming.
Clothing” you might as a well forget about anything polyester or synthetic. It feels like 200 grit sandpaper to them.
You know what also makes me not believe these tech guys are on the spectrum? Most people on the autism spectrum have a VERY RIGID sense of right and wrong. very rigid rules that are not to be deviated from. That means in their regiment of “stacking cans” it would be antithetical to them to delete or suppress one YouTube Video or Tweet over another based on ideology. To them rules are rules and there are no exceptions.
No. I don’t believe Zuckerberg and Dorsey are “Aspies”. The are just narcissistic sociopaths.
Karl, that’s really interesting. Thanks. And all the best with your boys.
This idea was terrifying the first time I heard it several years ago. It’s simply lipstick on the pig of brainwashing.
I suggest this counter point dialogue from MGS: Son’s of Liberty, which even though made years before Google took down the “Don’t Be Evil” sign, it is eerily similar to the propaganda psyop our mega corps are now waging against the population.
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Fascinating insight, Mr. Whittle; thanks so much. While such character traits have likely been with us as long as humanity itself, it seems to me that the danger lies not in the behavior, but in such manipulative power concentrated to a degree not experienced since the Tower of Babel. Because I grew up in the pre-internet dark ages, I believe its curated manipulation was and is easier for me to see and thereby resist. However, we all share the difficulty of seeing the water in which we swim, and later generations who have known no alternative must be extraordinarily vulnerable to its potential malevolence. Whether believers or not, our future happiness lies with less of our precious time spent consuming the detritus on our screens and more of it delving into the Bible, Shakespeare, Aristotle, and the other geniuses who shaped the principles of our nation’s founding, the pinnacle of Western Civilization.
aristotle believed that women should never hold political office under any circumstances. shakespere is being bled out of public education at warp speed. the bible represents everything the left detests of western civilization.
it seems you’re at odds with the new world order. tally ho maid of ‘orleans.
Yes…well. Pelosi, Feinstein, Cortez, Tlaib, Omar, Harris, et al. The left is doing such a splendid job, why would anyone want that fusty old Western Civilization anyway?
As Jordan Peterson says, we live in a constant battle between order and chaos. For life to have meaning, we strive towards personally chosen ends.
The Autism spectrum autocrats you point out don’t want to think hard enough to understand our point of view. They find it disruptive of their adopted world view, so they prefer to not invest in listening. Listening might require an alteration in their point of view that they are not ready to tolerate. So they call us names in an attempt at imposing their dominance, thus shutting off communication.
Just a wild guess, I suspect that a lot of us here have tendencies towards Asperger’s.
It is a spectrum, it’s very broad.
Bill is not saying “all people with Asperger’s are (choose adjective).”
Instead, he is saying: it seems likely that most of the people in charge of Big Tech have tendencies towards Asperger’s.
Venn diagram: subset. Not equivalents.
r/k, anyone? Big Tech is using their algorithms to manipulate people whose amygdalas don’t function properly.
This “selfish ledger” thing, combined with r/k, is why I thought Scott’s submission–his self-hypnosis and lack of even pro-forma resistance–to his gadget’s manipulation of his behavior was so appalling.
I’m on the far end (the light end) of the Asperger’s, which is sometimes obvious from my posts, but the members here are always so polite to me. It is what was called socially awkward back when I was young. I have DVDs and several books on how to read social cues. What I find works best is to smile and nod. It helps others to feel comfortable around me, and I like making people happy. Zuckerberg and Twitter’s Rasputin never learned that skill, perhaps because they don’t care how other people feel. That is scary considering their power over our communication.
I know people lie, but I’m still surprised every time they do and have difficulty interpreting politicians’ verbiage. I’m a scientist. Data does not lie. Luckily, this show offers great interpretation and perspective. Thank you!
It’s an interesting idea… but not really a good representation of High-Functioning Autism. For a better example, research Wolfgang Pauli – though he was never diagnosed (because there was know understanding of autism and Asperger’s), he was almost certainly on the spectrum… and the developer of one of the most important concepts in chemistry – Pauli’s Exclusion Principle.
I’ve worked with many HFA people, and your description of them as no being functioning adults, at least as we know the term, is not accurate.
I am a liberty minded, Constitutional Conservative with a high IQ, Chemical Engineering trained, computer programmer for about 20 years….. Who according to online test is on the autism spectrum. I have a hard time looking at people in the eyes. Groups over 6 including myself make me uncomfortable unless I have prepared for entertaining or training. I tend to be miss some social cues. I am told I tend to be rude, but I can’t figure out why.
What I am saying here is that autism is broad. Note other posts here. You can be empathetic and on the spectrum. But maybe you do not communicate it well. Your signals are off. You miss signals.
That being said, some people cannot be reasoned with. Their mind is made up and they don’t want to be confused by the facts.
excellent post harry. i too deal with these issues. additionally, it seems the older i get the more inept social wise i become although that’s probably the norm across the board i suspect.
For me, I seems the older I get, the better I get. But I seem to be getting older faster than I am getting better.
The difference for me is that when I was younger, I had hope that one day I could become someone different. I used to mimic others to try and fit in, but it was exhausting. I’ve given up that hope, and now life is easier.
much easier. i ran a business with 250+ employees for almost thirty years. i did the hiring and my own firing. office parties, junkets, evals, bonuses, p&l, green sheets, the whole nine yards. now at 73 i live a life free of conflict angst and pathos. one thing…i don’t abide liberal dogma, feminism or anti-american nefarious chicanery of any sort. i cleaned out my posse twenty years ago when i figured out it was better to have three great friends than fifteen wannabe users.
tally ho.
I am so like you. I’ve learned a few rules which makes life easier, such as saying good morning when entering the office and good night when leaving. Smiling works best. My mantra is “Fake it till you feel it.” It has helped a lot in life.
Oh dear God! Your avatar looks so much like my youngest of 4 rescue dogs (My troublemaker) named Lillie. At least half Catahoula Leopard Dog. (Haven’t done DNA test) The oldest and largest is Jack, mix mix mix, grandparents Harrier, great grandparent Norwegian Elk Hound, with Scottish Terrier and Fox Terrier thrown in. Bella, oldest female, half Australian Cattle Dog and rest half Lab and mix. Maggie (smallest at 43lbs) is middle female, part Lab, Border Collie, Dalmation, and American Staffordshire Terrier. Sweet dogs.
That is Fluffy. He’s a 30-lb, long-haired dachshund mixed with perhaps terrier. He’s scared of his own shadow. He also is a rescue.
Aren’t rescues the best? At least mine are. I also had one who was initially scared of everything as a puppy. Now at 9 years old and for the last three years she has become bold. Love and security did it. (This one is Bella)
I’ve worked at multiple jobs going on sixty years. In each, most people were born in, or at least raised in, the USA. As such, they were inculcated with basic Americanism. Something I wouldn’t expect from someone who moved here as an adult.
Google, facebook, twitter are using more and more H1Bs for their workforce. That means fewer and fewer of their employees are brought up with Americanism in their veins.
Therefore, the H1Bs when presented with decisions, don’t think as Americans would, and it would follow that unAmerican stuff like blocking free speech, denying basic equity, etc., don’t bother them as much as it would someone born and raised in an American environment.
So, the unAmerican crap that Google, facebook, and twitter are handing out and showing in their decisions to block free speech, doesn’t surprise me. They’re not imbued with Americanism.
some listen others wait to talk.
“Trying to be rational with people who are incapable of being rational”.
Sorry, no … it is not that they (we) are incapable of being rational, it is that the base assumptions of the desired outcomes of the system are different.
Those with Asperger’s can be extremely rational, their goals however, do not account for the human factor. The drive to ‘order’ the world so they feel they can understand and predict and control their environment does not allow for the complexity of the world. The world is so complex, like the economy, that there is simply NO way to understand it, let alone effectively control is. The best we can do is allow the control at the lowest level – the individual.
Why I am able to see this as an aspie … I do not know. While I have a fairly high IQ, the likes of zuckerborg must also be fairly high …. I guess a start would be to understand what caused the divergent outcome between me and zuckerborg?
Bear with me on this one …
My mother was a forensic psychologist … At one point, he job in the prison service was to assess inmates for psychopathy. The reason the inmates are assessed is to exclude psychopaths from the training sessions they put on for inmates to help them deal with social situations.
There is no treatment for psychopathy … there is no training that will help them be less ‘psychopath’. The reason to exclude the psychopaths from the social training is, all the psychopath learns from it .. is how to better manipulate and exploit others. They do not learn to relate to others, or to empathize, or to understand how others are hurt by their actions.
Perhaps what we are doing in ‘training’ those with aspergers in the way we do, is not ‘how to be less aspie’, but how to be more effective at imposing your idea of how the world should be, on everyone else, and telling them THEY ARE JUSTIFIED IN DOING IT!
I am not saying do not help aspies (I am fairly sure I am one), but I am saying that maybe we need to revisit the training and make sure we are not training them to be narcissistic and autistic.
I a fairly sure I am an ‘aspie’. …. but I am a libertarian.
perhaps my ‘fixation’ is the order created by the constitution.
A different way to look at it may be … I want to be left alone and to be consistent, I want everyone to be left alone.
BTW … I do not lack empathy, but I guess it ‘appears’ that I lack empathy because I do not respond the ways others would.
Thank you for directing me to this excellent short piece. It is reminiscent of Peter Schweizer’s documentary ‘The Creepy Line’ – a very scary documentary on big tech’s ability to influence.
Got a link?
Its’ available on Amazon Prime.
Maybe “Fasc-perger’s” is a better term?
As far as the cans go, they need to get their cans kicked, really hard.
“Pain builds character” is a phrase I grew hearing quite often.
Not to say that violence is going to be a good way to rear a child, it isn’t.
But what we’re dealing with here are a bunch of “infantile adults” or “grown children”. They didn’t have good parenting and are therefore defunct and maladjusted. Precisely the type of person who should never wield authority or control.
Weaklings who taste control, and cowards who wield authority are the reason that toxic leadership environments exist and persist in so many organizations.
Kicking their cans will get their attention. Perhaps then they might realize how they negatively affect others, but I doubt it.
You can’t coddle and baby them into adults.
Sociopaths and psychopaths are more likely whom we’re dealing with, not just innocent buffoons.
I think they’re all micro-dosing too much.
You may be closer than you think with your Asperger’s diagnosis, Bill. My son was diagnosed with Asperger’s at a young age and we had to work through it with him, trying to understand what he was thinking and how to help him become a socially integrated adult. He still has problems reading a clock with hands or reading a book and remembering what he read without going back to re-read sections that he didn’t understand or forgot. If you give him a task that require multiple steps to complete, he will often come back to clarify how he was to go about it, which is not good for being employed. Sometimes he gets very agitated and you think he’s mad at you, but he is actually mad at himself for not understanding. If he latches on to an idea that he thinks is right, no amount of explaining will prove to him that he is wrong.
The weirdest part is he is a conservative and believes in basic human rights and the harm our socialist government is doing now! I bought him his own .22 Henry rifle and taught him how to shoot it, care for it, and about gun safety. He loves putting holes in paper, but I doubt seriously he could shoot a person with it.
The Selfish Ledger shows that through data mining they are trying to get everyone to fit the same box and when you don’t, there is obviously something wrong with you.
It would be interesting to see the depth of actual communication the blind masses engage in on social media. I’ve tried reading a few Facebook pages and I can’t stand it. It all seems to be empty drivel with no real substance.
The disorder is summarized in one cartoon frame (source: https://xkcd.com/386/):
Perhaps there is more than a kernel of truth to the concept many of these people have a definable clinical condition, but I think it is at least equally important to understand something more dangerous but not inconsistent with the attributes outlined in the video. The ideological “truths” which permeate our current domestic condition, while expressed in minor degrees throughout history and especially in the Wars of Religion, reached full force during the twentieth century with the rise of the Bolsheviks and Wilson’s own characterization of why the U.S. entered the war, making “the world safe for democracy.” These two elements transformed power politics into conflicts between “good” and “evil”. Opposition to either philosophy, though more muted in the West’s ultimate approach, was not merely a difference of opinion backed by military, economic, and political power, but was siding with Evil. Lenin said as much openly on numerous occasions. The power of ideology was that “if” it had sufficient backing with military and police force, any opponent could and indeed should be silenced by whatever means were at hand. Creating this approach to domestic and international affairs encouraged the rise of Fascism and National Socialism. Individuals who likely were able to fit Mr. Whittle’s description are characterized more accurately as sociopaths and psychopaths. Unlike the Asperger’s, these two categories encompass people who indeed are able to connect well with their victims even as their victims are seen as “other”. The willingness to silence opposition is always present whereas the means may be limited by particular situations or scenarios. It isn’t even necessary for a leader in charge of the ideology to have a multi-year vision of achieving the endpoint, utopia, since finality is never achieved because humans are so perverse. The word utopia means “no place”. What matters to the ideologue is keeping the “truth” pure from defilement by anyone who questions it. Its totality of understanding means there cannot be, just not “should not be”, any different opinion, since, like perfection, any deviation no longer is perfect. Mr. Whittle is correct that trying to argue with an ideologue is an impossible task, at least if the goal is to change that person’s perspective or introduce an element of doubt. Dealing with that person should begin with understanding that person will not be swayed, even often by experience. The road to some form of success, of protected liberty, as defined by an ideologue, simply is in submitting to the “truth” that person outlines. There is no compromise possible. In that situation we must choose a different path: find a way to be in charge or “leave”, whatever that means. What gives any hope at all to those of us who believe the ideologues are in charge is established in the Declaration of Independence and its outline of natural rights: life, liberty, pursuit of a meaningful life, coupled with the spirit of resistance without which none of the three has any meaning. It is the form of resistance with which we struggle now. Seemingly paradoxically it is up to the youth of this country to create the solution. Our job, at least people like myself, rather long in the tooth, is to offer support where we can and promote ideas among the youth.
That is completely terrifying to contemplate, but we must if we are to fight back against all of this stuff.
I’ve heard lots of people who believe “they” want to turn us into human/computer hybrids. I’m not a “conspiracy theorist”, but the “ledger” vid sure makes it seems like they view us as data.
Interesting they included “deforming” in the definition of the makeup of “the ledger” (aka: human being).
Perhaps that’s a clue as to why the censorship. Differing opinions are viewed as “deformed” and cannot be tolerated. Must be eliminated.
We are viewed as a data ledger version of human adaptation/evolution.
Explains why “they” don’t see us as human and we cannot use reason nor logic with any effect.
Behavior modification of the masses over time.
All of it. Schools, colleges, social media, TV, radio, “news”, movies, entertainment, music, sports, government. All of it.
I agree with the clinical definition of these tech monolithic types.
However, like public schools, universities, movies, government, music, etc., I believe it was a planned, incremental part of a bigger plan to gain power/wealth & realize a one-world govt. (think the EU).
What better personality traits to have in such people? Social media was even more effective than movies. Just about everyone has a smart phone. Even a former exec for FB said it was designed to create endorphin hits & create addiction to it (like crack).
We continue to see people addicted to phones. So much so they can’t carry on conversations with family or friends. They go out to dinner and spend the whole time on their phone. (Another dumbing-down technique.)
They wouldn’t be the monopolies they are unless they built trust and became the most popular over time. Otherwise people would have just went elsewhere.
I think it would be interesting to take a peek into what became of the other social networks around during the rise of FB, et al. How many up and comers did they buy out or squash?
Another question, how many of our traitorous politicians have the same or similar mental health issues?