If nearly half the U.S. public thinks that those jailed for the January 6 riot at the Capitol are political prisoners, how can a free republic move forward and survive? Should the Beatles classic be re-issued as Back in the U.S.S.A.?
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22 replies on “Back in the U.S.S.A.: Jailed for Jan. 6 Riot Seen as Political Prisoners by 49% of Public”
Some are being held because they are antifa that passed them selves off as Maga and they can’t be tried by Merrick Garland because then their names and affiliations go public confirming the false flag claims. The hard left know there are antifa in jail and see them as political prisoners because they think Garland should just release the fake Maga without charges. Garland knows the world is watching and he can’t do that.
There is also a CNN reporter and crew in the mix. They talked there way in and blocked the door being re closed. Technically the people that entered that door were legal. They were told by an Antifa person that the vote had been taken and Trump had won.
Some shown on footage smashing windows from the inside out and calling people in reportedly had staff passes. Left wing congressional staff. Their being held because to reveal that blows all the other cases up.
One estimate is that only 20% of the people being held are actually Maga, Republican and did no damage. At least 4 were not at the capital building at all. Two of those have been released quietly.
There are lots of reports and analysis on Rumble.
Julie Kelly at American Greatness has been dogged in her January 6th reporting. From her most recent:
“More than 600 Americans have been rounded up by Joe Biden’s Justice Department with new arrests coming every week. Federal prosecutors have requested pre-trial detention for at least 100 defendants; 60 Capitol protesters are now in jail and denied bail. For months, January 6 detainees have suffered under solitary confinement conditions, were allowed out of their cells only one hour per day, and have been denied access to lawyers, exercise, personal hygiene, and religious services…”
https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/17/joe-bidens-political-prisoners/
Being a Beatles fan, I Thought I’d take your reference to the next step with some updated lyrics…
“Flew into Miami Beach with AOC. Man I had a dreadful flight.
On the way the paper bag was on my knee, listening to her drone all night…
I’m back in the USSA…Now we’re all gonna pay, Back in the USSA!
Socialists in charge, I hardly knew the place. I don’t even own my home.
Can’t discuss the souvenirs inside my case. The NSA has tapped my phone.
I’m back in the USSA. Better watch what you say, back in the USSA!
Well, the pink haired girls try to knock me out
If I use the wrong pronoun
Non-binary men start to scream and shout…
There’s no such thing as gender, don’t you call that dude a bender, oh my!
Oh, show me ’round your homeless camps and burnt out towns
Needles, feces give them charm
Newsome and Pelosi gonna shut you down
with masks and shots in every arm!
I’m back in the USSA
We’ll have to do more than pray,
Back in the US…back in the US…back in the USSA!”
To the Beatles purists… my apologies!
Dennis H.
Revolver is one news source that has done real investigative journalism about the January 6th protest and the political prisoners.
https://www.revolver.news
They have several in-depth reports which have served as the basis for some of the few fact-based MSM stories that have emerged.
There was a second unarmed female protestor who died that day. Her name was Rosanne Boyland. She was beaten and pepper sprayed by a Capitol Police officer, then trampled to death while Capitol Police did nothing to help her and prevented others from helping her. The witnesses who claim that the Capitol Police knocked her over and shoved other people on top of her and would not let them help her are currently political prisoners in the D.C. jail.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/exclusive-rosanne-boyland-beaten-female-officer-trampled-death-january-6th-video/
All the mainstream media has reported consistently about her is that she was once a drug addict. But she had been sober for years and dedicated her life to helping others recover from addiction, and even went to a sobriety meeting the night before the protest.
Like Ashli Babbit’s killer, the officer who beat Boyland was lauded as a “hero.”
Here is a simple test on how to determine if these guys are political prisoners or not. If they were anitfa, code pink, greenpeace, or any other left wing “protest” group, would they still be in jail, of course not.
We all know that if they had been left wing activist, they would never have been arrested. Remember the left wingers that broke into and disrupted the Kavanaugh hearings? Are those pink haired land whales still in custody? Or did they get released immediately without being charged with anything?
So Scott’s confusion on this topic is for lack of a better word, bullshit. You do not need to read the entire case file for each prisoner arrested to know this is entirely political, and these guys are political prisoners.
Also we now know that nearly all of the actual violence was committed by undercover FBI agents trying to create the exact situation that was created.
Some say the Antifa false Maga are still being held because to release them reveals the false flag scam.
The jailing of political prisoners, if that’s what’s happening here, is a sure sign of an advanced illness in our government system.
When a significant fraction of the population thinks people are political prisoners that is because they are not seeing any other good reason for holding those people. If there is no other good reason that would be why that’s people aren’t seeing one.
However, this isn’t “just” about trespassing and vandalism from a legal standpoint. If you go to rob a bank (commit a crime) and in the process of your illegal activity someone is killed, even if you didn’t do the killing, even if you were unarmed and had no intention to kill anyone, you can be charged with murder. This is a very serious thing.
This is very likely the reason for the mad rush to excuse the black officer who shot Ashli Babbitt to death. “Mad rush” because by mid April the investigation had been terminated and the officer exonerated of any wrong doing. “Likely reason” because if the officer was found at fault then 3rd degree murder charges against the clowns who did the trespassing and vandalizing would be nearly impossible to support.
I’m sure the fact that a black cop who was where he was supposed to be, doing what he was supposed to be doing, right up until the instant he wasn’t and pulled a trigger on a white woman who was doing things she was not supposed to be doing and was where she should not be — Yeah I don’t think that was lost on the people whose party had just managed to put a senile, doddering, stumbling, muttering, mumbling old puppet into office. After a year of burning cities in the name of mythical black victims of mythical white authorities.
I don’t know that this is what’s going on, I’m just painting everything with a broad brush here. I’m not excusing anything either.
The people who trespassed and vandalized the Capital Building should not have done that. It has resourced the other political side with no end of ammunition even though it was in scale and perspective a relatively minor incident. We all heard Leftist policy drip from Hillary Clinton’s mouth with the words “Never let a perfectly good crisis go to waste” and clearly that’s in full play. I’m really ticked at those people for giving our enemies that.
The funny thing is that at the end of all this the thing that might save those nitwits from certain doom is the fact that they were unarmed with ridiculously painted faces and wearing absurd costumes. At least they had the sense not to dress themselves in cammie uniforms and look like anything resembling an actual force to be reckoned with.
This absurdity works in their favor. It makes it pretty clear that they were not actually an insurrectionist force trying to seize the reins of power. That can’t be done simply by trespassing and vandalizing the Capital Building anyway, even if they were strapped up and cammo clad. Taking over that building does not give one the power to command anything and a coup does not look like what we saw in January 6th. Thank God the optics if not the shenanigans do not play into the hands of people claiming this was “the worst thing since 9/11” and that kind of BS.
I thought that the “shoot someone while robbing a bank” only got the getaway driver because the driver was part of the criminal conspiracy. That a bunch of people showed up, and then some of them did something illegal shouldn’t reflect on the rest. All of those in the Capitol when they shouldn’t have been were not even together as they entered via various different doors.
In some ways, the silliness of the rioters, as you put it, also makes those in charge look even sillier. At times it seems like a false flag op by the cops gone bad would make more sense than that they so overly misread the situation, thought there was more coordination than there was, and then pulled back troops hoping for a catastrophe they could use, and it just never got that bad.
No, a criminal conspiracy isn’t a necessary element for you to be charged with murder even though you didn’t kill anyone. All that’s needed to satisfy that is that you were in fact committing a crime and as a result of your criminal activity someone was killed.
If a man attacks you with a lethal weapon on a crowded street and you have no recourse but to draw your own weapon and you — fire but miss and kill a bystander behind him or the bullet goes through him and inflicts a fatal wound on someone behind him — then continue to fire until he’s down and no longer a threat — he’s the one guilty of murder not you. The criminality is all his, he initiated the series of events that were criminal. Your bullets were fired as a direct result of his criminal actions. Now I would hope that if you carry a firearm you’re proficient enough and have sufficient good sense and self restraint not to do that and kill my family member but the law does not require you to die without attempting to defend yourself if you have the means and the situation is unequivocal. If the sequence of events results in a death other than the lethal threat it is the fault of the lethal threat.
And just as an aside, it’s pretty damn hard to calculate all possible angles and shoot through/miss contingencies when someone is no-shit going to kill you in the next few fractions of a second. The tendency of human nature is to start blasting away and keep blasting away until you stop crapping yourself. This is why it often takes a whole mag of ammo from a high capacity semiautomatic handgun for a police officer (or several) to score just a couple/few hits.
… Well that and cops are notoriously bad marksmen. I used to shoot alongside some FBI agents now and then and they were terrible shots. Not surprising considering they’re mostly accountant types. Pray that your life or the life of someone you love never hinges on a well aimed, perfectly placed shot from a rank-and-file LEO’s sidearm. But anyway …
That’s not to say that people not in the vicinity of Ashli Babbitt are likely to be charged with 3rd Degree Murder. They’re not. But those people in her immediate vicinity and right behind her as she went through that broken window, waiting to follow her through, most certainly could be considered for such a charge.
The argument would be that if Ashli, or who ever actually did it, had not broken that window and climbed through it then Ashli would still be alive. Ashli died as a direct result of the crime(s) she was committing. So if you were aiding and abetting Ashli by being with her and participating in what she was doing you could, theoretically and technically be charged with murder in the 3rd degree.
This only works if the shooting was legally justified. Obviously an illegal shoot would not place a burden of murder on anyone but the shooter. Who was protected and cleared suspiciously fast and now back on duty in uniform with a loaded sidearm in his holster on his duty belt.
I’m not condoning the use of lethal force by a sworn officer that resulted in the death of Ashli Babbitt. I’m not making excuses for that by any means. The law also says that lethal force is justified only in gravest extreme where the person using that force has a reason to believe that their life is in jeopardy, that they will suffer grave bodily injury or that those things will happen to another if lethal force is not applied. That law is the same for cops as it is for civilian citizens.
The video record of that incident is a matter of public record. I’ve seen it and I don’t see how that officer squared those requirements with that situation. He was absolutely able to retreat to a position of greater cover and it was not impossible for him to take himself out of harms way, if there were in fact any potential harm that could be perceived, while still performing his sworn duties and without killing anyone. Ashli Babbitt broke a window and was in the process of climbing through it, she did not charge screaming at an armed officer with a weapon in her hand.
At the very least it seems to me the cop exercised poor judgement resulting in the death of another. That should have been a manslaughter charge against him, but his defense would have some good arguments about the stress of the moment too.
Even if he didn’t face formal charges, any statement about anything less than the full justification and exoneration of his actions would make prosecuting any of the other people in that hallway for Ashli Babbitt’s death a serious problem. Even when the law is technically and theoretically applicable you still have to convince a jury. But …
One of the reasons some of those people are still in jail might be, and bear in mind I’m purely speculating here … Is that the powers that be are trying to see if they can bring a charge of murder against them even if that charge has little or no likelihood of resulting in a conviction.
The goal would be to make the incident appear to carry more gravity than it really does without the political fallout optics that go with persecution for political reasons.
And revenge. Because even an acquittal from a murder charge is something that will follow you around like dead puppy on a rope tied around your neck, for the rest of your life.
I don’t really know anything you don’t know. I’m just reading tea leaves here.
Ah I thought you were possibly referring to other protesters not in the immediate vicinity of the charged crime.. in another hallway perhaps, and comparing them to the getaway driver outside of a bank. Those around someone like Ashli who are engaging in the same behavior I can easily see being charged “with her”.
I thought most of those still held were just being waited out, that the Feds thought they would plead to something lesser just to get out, like most of the other railroaded and overcharged people across the country.
I suppose the 3 days to appear before a judge kind of rules don’t apply to domestic terrorists and the star chamber FISA court judges might count anyway.
Again, I’m just spitballing here, I don’t’ know anything you don’t know. My purpose citing liability related to murder charges was just to point out something some people might not have thought of.
I’m also not making any excuses for this travesty of justice. The U.S. Constitution guarantees a speedy trial in the 6th Amendment —
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed …
Just like it’s the law that you can be tried on a murder charge if your illegal acts cause a death, it’s also the law that you can’t be held indefinitely. But …
It doesn’t seem to me that we’re faithfully following our entire body of law anymore. It’s not hard to find glaring, common examples of violations to the clearly and simply worded, easily understood intent of the Bill of Rights.
People use the “frog in a pot of water slowly heated to a boil” analogy but that’s not accurate and I avoid it. Frogs don’t sit peacefully unaware in gradually heated water until they’re boiled to death. Frogs are cold blooded and regulate their internal temperature by moving from less to more favorable conditions.
The situation is much more akin to beach erosion where a house built far from the water 50 years ago is now having its foundations undermined by encroaching surf and will eventually catastrophically collapse.
Something is going on in this country and it’s not good. If those people who are being held all this time had any rights they could petition the court and if that failed sue the government. That they are not doing that is de facto proof they cannot.
Why wasn’t a grand jury called for the shooting of a protester by the Capitol police? Any other incident of a cop shooting of an unarmed person would go before a grand jury.
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Pelosi has her own Capitol police force. She has her own political prisoners who are being held without bail, without due process, on misdemeanor charges like “parading” in Pelosi’s Capitol. The Capitol police even opened the doors for these so-called trespassers to enter.
This is the most significant example of something people have witnessed in the US, UK and Australia over the last 18 months. People taking to the streets to express and support various political positions are treated very differently by police depending not on their physical actions, but on the political positions. We have seen violent and obstructive BLM and environmental groups treated with kid gloves while patriots and anti-lockdown groups have met with firm and physical response from the police.
In the last week Extinction Rebellion have blocked the M25, the orbital motorway around London, three times. They’ve caused huge delays and difficulties, including people missing medical appointments. This picture really sums it up. The coppers are restraining a frustrated and enraged driver from dealing with the entitled Guardian reading tossers himself. If they’d done their job to start with (or been allowed to) the situation would not arise.
There’s another disturbing trend. When Law Enforcement is seen a little more than the various Brown Shirts’ armed reserves, they’ll start getting treated differently as well.
The violent anti lockdown rioters in Australia are CFMEU Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union. Very hard left unionists opposed to all governments left and right. They are known to have killed greens in the southeast forests protests, maimed parliamentary staff with battery acid at the 1996 break in of federal parliament. The vandalization of political members offices is often traced to them. They have their own extreme left Stalinist political party.
Hey wait… I thought we weren’t charging bail anymore?
What else can you expect from an administration that puts up fences and barbed wire around the government buildings?
More dangerous would be if people didn’t believe it, even though it is actually happening.
I know I’m splitting hairs Steve, but one minor clarification. You said that holding political prisoners isn’t something we normally see in this country.
More accurately, holding political prisoners wasn’t something we normally saw in this country.
Expect their ranks to grow with tomorrow’s scheduled “Reichstag II: Electric Boogaloo”