Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer Prize-winning former foreign correspondent for The New York Times, finds the January 6 protestors deplorable, but says the treatment of those arrested or detained in the wake of the incident is un-American.
What does it mean when a “die-hard Lefty” finds common cause with those on the right outraged about the Special Administrative Measures invoked against some of the accused?
Right Angle is a production of our Members. Stephen Green and Scott Ott are grateful to Zo Rachel for sitting in for Bill again this week.
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Playing nicey-nicey with the Demonrats is what’s brought us to where we are. They must FEEL what it’s like, or “equal justice has still been cowardly avoided.
Scott, I agree that as Christian conservatives we should be above the impulse to retaliate when we again gain control of our government…but
The fact that Hilliary isn’t in jail along with most of her deceitful cohorts sticks in the minds of every conservative. Comey actually presented the charges against her that should have certainly gotten her indicted, if not convicted but then he said, “no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges”. Exonerating her of her obvious crimes.
I can’t think of another way to enforce the rule of law, except by enforcing the rule of law. If that means holding Democrats responsible for their illegal, unconstitutional behavior I don’t see how that should be construed as vendictive conduct on the part of the Republicans
Remember the Cass Sunstein Nudge theory? It ‘s basically “a behavioral economics tool to “nudge” (UGH!) Americans toward different choices in big ticket areas like health care… and happiness,” and I add to that, green energy, electric cars, owning nothing and being happy.
How does pychology (behavioral economics) factor in to the game theory? Many Americans don’t understand that they’re being nudged into decisions that they don’t want. If that isn’t betrayal then I don’t know what it is! Cass Suntein’s wife is Samantha Power. She is doing some nudging overseas according to what I read. The whole Biden admin is the TIT who needs a great big TAT!
Tit for Tat has come up on the comments several times on this R/A episode. I checked with home office, and thought I might provide a temporary link my personal copy of Game Theory featuring tit for tat strategy, to members who have not seen Game Theory. This video essay was written and performed by Bill Whittle, and recorded for/by ….that other now long-gone channel.
Here is the link to my Rumble page and this video.
https://rumble.com/v2cffi2-game-theory-by-bill-whittle.html
I’ll kill the link in a few days.
Great post. Love Bill’s explanation of game theory & Robert Axelrod’s book: The Evolution of Co-operation. A must watch. Thanks!
The same people who are using tax-payer dollars to harm these patriots will someday use our same tax dollars to pay off the resulting lawsuits.
The statements regarding precedents was quite well stated. One of these precedents I greatly dislike is that of Executive Orders. The dims loved it when Obama had a pen and a phone, but hated it when Donald Trump rode that pony. And now we hate it again when Biden takes it to the steroidal level.
Regarding retribution. I do believe some of that is necessary to totally remove people from power who have used administrative measures to do what the law is not allowed to do.
There’s no right way to do the wrong thing. Period.
Warning to people who do not like my long posts. Don’t click “Read More” and have a nice day … 🙂
I have no problem, in some instances, of doing back to the Left what it has done to the rest of us.
A good example of that is that Harry Reid’s “nuclear option” being used by Republicans to seat conservative leaning Supreme Court justices on the bench.
If it were not for the Left bending and breaking long-standing rules and traditions we probably wouldn’t have the conservative majority SCOTUS we have today. That really chaps their hides on the Left. All the more so because deep down they know they did it to themselves.
The Democrat Left is back in power, they had the White House and both houses of Congress for two years. So did they learn their lesson and abolish Harry Reid’s “nuclear option?” Nope. Just the opposite in fact, they’re trying to do away with the filibuster completely. Forgetting or not caring that some day that mistake will make eunuchs of them when power swings back the other way.
They often leave us little or no choice in the matter of turning their own weapons against them. In some instances. Where that is appropriate and right to do so.
Using the “nuclear option” to permanently seat conservative judges on the Supreme Court was a good example of an instance where it was appropriate and right to use the weapon created by the Left to inflict significant damage to their agenda.
There are other instances where acting like a Leftist git would be a huge mistake. Don’t ever forget, tracers work both directions. If we do things that bend or break rules, the Left would LOVE that because they have no compunctions at all regarding using those same things against us when they have power.
That’s not an argument to “be reasonable” with our political foes, it’s a simple fact that if we abandon the principles and laws of this nation the same way the Left has done, then we will be no better than they are. But that’s not the important point.
The important point is that if we do what they do in abandoning our American Way — The end result will be indistinguishable from what their tactics attempt to do. If we let them, they are going to suck us all down the drain to something that is NOT our United States of America and will have abandoned that grand idea forever.
The same tactics lead to the same place. Whether applied by the Right or the Left.
I’ve seen people here on this site say that there’s no danger from the Right of that sort of thing happening. That kind of attitude is shallowly biased historical ignorance.
You bet your sweet ass there’s danger on the Right too. While the Left is dragging us to a cliff pell-mell, there’s also a cliff over there on the Right. If you’re an American you’d best keep that cliff on the Right always in view so you don’t plummet over it on the rebound.
Some people think “Right Wing” and “Conservative” mean the same thing. They do not. Virtually every Junta Dictatorship in Central and South America during our lifetime has been Right Wing and yet not at all like American Conservatism. Those Junta Dictatorships are every bit as oppressive to their people as Left Wing coups like we saw in Venezuela.
Some people think Conservatism, even American Conservatism which is different than the Conservatism the rest of the world knows — Is an ideology. It’s not.
American Conservatism is a philosophy. A philosophy can embrace and be served by an ideology while an ideology can never become a philosophy. If ideology supplants philosophy it remains ideology. Ideology is the bane of philosophy, it is a counterfeit that insists that a given ideology is superior and exclusive to all else.
This is what we’re seeing on the Democrat Left, the erasure of a philosophy being supplanted by an ideology. This is how we can go from John F. Kennedy backing down Kruschev to a party and policies that Kennedy would not recognize and would not want his input. This is how the Left convinced urban working women that the virtual abolishment of their cherished Feminism was a good idea. That a man could be a woman is nothing more than supplanting women with men in dresses.
And they went for that because they no longer follow a philosophy, they follow an exclusionist ideology.
If we’re going to claim to be on the side of Abraham Lincoln and the abolitionists, we cannot abandon Lincoln and Conservative Philosophy for Right Wing ideology. If we do that, like Jack Kennedy we will become something Lincoln would not recognize and a party that would not want the likes of Lincoln.
I’ve seen some gawd-awful ridiculous, poorly thought out angry nonsense on this website …
I’ve seen people who are floating the idea of armed rebellion. They’re either advocating or hinting at that.
Do you people not see the damage a few nitwits trespassing in the nation’s Capital building has done? Do you not comprehend how our political foes have used the comparatively inconsequential acts of January 6th against us? Do you not notice how any valorous good thing done by a Conservative is attacked and if attack isn’t feasible ignored in the Leftist Media? Do you not notice that the slightest negative thing will be attributed to ‘white racist’ conservatives whether a conservative or even a white person was involved or not? Do you fail to grasp what will happen if you actually pick up a gun and start shooting other Americans over your ideology? The only hope to salvage that sort of catastrophe is if an armed Conservative stops you with his own gun.
You remind me of a World War I soldier who is so angry he decides he’s going to march right over and kill all the enemy. Then gets mowed down by machine gun fire a few seconds later. Show some good sense if you have any.
I’ve seen people calling for unreasonable, unlawful or unsound actions.
Just yesterday on the day’s previous video release there was a member calling for all the perpetrators and perfidious actors on the Democrat Left that are making a big deal out of January 6th to be arrested and prosecuted for ‘entrapment’.
There’s just one really big problem with that, as I went to lengths to point out. Entrapment is not a Federal Crime. So what the hell do you think you’re going to do, make up a new fake law to prosecute your political enemies with? Really? Does it not occur to you that in doing something that dumb you’re asking for the same in return? Do you want to destroy The Republic to get your angry satisfaction and the American Way can just be damned?
Or was that just abysmal ignorance of our laws? Ignorance being no excuse, BTW.
The Conservative Philosophy as manifest in the Constitution of the United States of America has created the thing we all call “The American Way”. It is the most superior system of socio-economic politics ever devised by man and blessed by God.
The proof of that is in the pudding. Lots of people want to escape to here, no one wants to escape from here.
The Conservative Philosophy, if it’s allowed to, is self correcting and self improving. If applied with diligence the philosophy improves and makes people’s lives better in doing so.
If you act to harm or deface the Conservative American Philosophy in words or deeds propelled by Right Wing Ideology or anything else you are an enemy of America. No matter which party you vote for.
As I said, Conservative American Philosophy is the demonstrable and de facto pinnacle in human government. So …
Think of Conservative American Philosophy as a circle with that philosophy at the top. That’s the best we’ve ever managed to accomplish. Everything that moves away from that top dead center is harmful to Conservatism. It doesn’t matter if you move down the left side or the right side of the circle, you move away from the thing that has proven to work best.
Think of politics as a ball, a sphere with Conservative American Philosophy being the best and so has risen to the top pole of the sphere. Any weight added anywhere on the ball means Conservative philosophy rolls away from the best possible position it can be in.
This isn’t some stupid high school football team rivalry between two towns. Other than direct matters of Faith this is the most serious situation ever faced by humanity. America with a Conservative American Philosophy leadership is the best we can hope for in a fallen world and it’s not only good for America, it’s good for every single person living on our planet.
I take this all very seriously. I want to win. I know that winning is the best possible future for mankind and my progeny. If you think that being serious, or taking myself seriously on this topic is irritating … Screw you.
I don’t always agree with Scott Ott and I don’t think he’s infallible. But just because he’s telling you the real deal does not give you cause to slag on him. Considering all the above and much more that I have absorbed in my lifetime, if something Scott says ticks you off then …
It’s you, not him. So take a good look at yourself.
Burn it.
Again with the naivety. YES, we need to do to them what they do to us! To do otherwise is lunacy.
This only ends when they have skin in the game. There’s no other way. And all you pearl-clutchers are just giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Rather, I say “Si vis pacum para bellum.”
I’ll add that this includes the need to Disney more corporations.
If they want to participate in ruling us they can share the pain.
If you want peace prepare for war.
Scott: I appreciate your attempts to be reasonable. I really do. However, keep in mind that when you attempt to be reasonable with an opponent, it’s you and them against you. Same in divorce cases (that’s where I learned the lesson, the HARD way). Sadly, those with whom we disagree are opponents. Once upon a time, they were merely fellow citizens with whom we disagreed over methods while agreeing on goals. That is no longer the case. So, keep on being reasonable. I’ll cheer you on. However, others who are ready to fight will have your back…
The only way for some children to learn is tit for tat. Sorry Scott, sometimes you have to learn your lesson the hard way. I would like to take the moral high ground, but these jokers are setting back and laughing at all of us who try that tactic. The Democratic party is just like big pharma these entities are psychopathic in nature. To them, the end always justifies the means.
Once burned, twice learned. When you refuse to learn, life retaliates.
Evil needs to be purged. End of story.
I don’t know if I’m being punished for watching most episodes on the TV instead of on the website, and I don’t know what changed, but I’m unable to watch videos on the site. They just won’t launch and might as well just be an image. (I’m on a Mac using Safari.)
When was the last time you updated your Mac OS and your Safari Browser?
I’m still on Catalina. Last time I updated my MacOS, it wreaked havoc with my page layout programs (Adobe wasn’t ready for the update.) So I’m waiting a bit. Anyway, it seems to have ‘healed’ itself. Maybe it was a cache issue?
You have to do those OS updates to stay safe, or reasonably so, on the internet. They don’t release those updates just to be a PITA, they’re releasing patches for known vulnerabilities that are being exploited in the wild. It’s vital that you get those updates no matter what OS or genre you’re running.
Your choice is a computer that works because you updated it or a computer that will allow bad people to steal from you because you didn’t update it. In the latter case it’s just a matter of time and how much damage is done until it doesn’t’ work anyway. If Adobe wasn’t ready for the update to the Mac OS then that’s Adobe’s fault, not Mac’s.
Things can be running on your computer without you being aware they’re there. The bad guys have gotten very good at hiding their activities. Being on a Mac/Apple product does not make you immune from such things, despite what the ‘old school’ Mac people will tell you.
The exploits can range from showing so many ads you can’t use your computer (the bad guys get paid for every ad that pops up), to distributed computing bitcoin miners that are stealing your computer resources and making it slow, to keyloggers and other means that will steal your banking and online shopping credentials.
That last one is the worst of all because generally you won’t know you’ve been had until you see a zero balance in your bank account. If they go for your online shopping they’ll have expensive merchandise sent to them that they can re-sell at a fraction of the cost or fence.
I can’t emphasize enough how important those updates are. Whatever hassles they cause you are nothing compared to the headaches you’ll get from not doing them.
There’s a limit to how much anti-virus and anti-malware software can intercept and save you from too. There is NO security software in the world that is 100% effective. I use several that will play nice together when installed on the same machine but that’s a tricky thing to set up and keep running. Doing this is MORE secure but it still isn’t COMPLETELY secure. Your best defense is those updates to your OS and browser.
If page layouts are an issue then whatever desktop publishing software you use (like Adobe) export the layouts as a template to a thumb drive, pull that out of the socket and run your updates. If there’s a problem them import the layouts again and you should be fine.
To save a copy of a document as a template, choose File > Save Content As, specify a location and filename, and then choose InCopy Template from Save As Type (Windows) or Format (Mac OS). To save all stories in the document, choose File > Save All Content.
I’m aware of the criticality of updating. But when they keep me from working, I have to go with being functional and update when my required apps are ready. I’ve spent way too much time with Windows to know to immediately update. Seems Apple is falling into that same ‘end-user-Beta-testing’ trap. But I’ll still take Macs over PCs any day of the week.
For actual, real computers I use Windows PC’s, Linux and Google Chromebooks. I avoid Apple products like the plague because — Apple controls their devices not me. There are things I can do with the other three OS’s that are simply impossible to do with Apple devices.
All modern OS’s use the “end-user-beta-testing ” crap. Apple does that too, they just don’t tell you they’re doing it. I’ve used packet capture software to watch an idle Mac with no programs running on it gleefully sending packets (TCP and UDP) back and forth to Apple’s headquarters. That’s end user telemetry, or as you say “end-user-beta-testing ” crap.
That started years ago and yes, I think it’s a despicable practice but it’s what the companies that we have to use if we want to do modern computing do.
Windows, Mac and all the rest release updates that are a result of that “end-user-beta-testing ” crap. Those updates are not beta testing, they’re the end result of telemetry returned by ‘phoning home’ and also the product of white hat security testing.
If you want to be an Apple fanboy(fangirl) that’s your business. I don’t really care what OS you use, I use what works for me and I’m assuming you use what works for you. That’s fine with me, I don’t care but …
Don’t fool yourself. There’s nothing altruistic about Apple Inc. and they’re in it for the money same as everyone else.
The reason Apple has had to change how it does things is that there are enough Macs in use to make attacking them profitable. Previously the bad guys didn’t get a lot of return on their investment in time and money to attack them because they were a tiny market share. That’s no longer the case so Apple Inc. has had to move to more secure practices. Or to put it another way, Apple has had to adopt a lot of what Windows does to keep their client’s safe.
Decades back Apple used a different kind of hardware that was proprietary to Apple. They changed that and started using OTS hardware. Today, if you were so inclined, you could wipe the software on a Mac down to bare metal and install Windows on the machine. It’s a PC, like it or not. You can install quite a few different Operating Systems on a PC.
As time goes on and market share for Apple devices continues to climb, Macs will continue to become more like PCs. They have no choice but to do that.
I run the Windows updates the instant that they become available and I’ve never had a Windows update do what you describe. Considering the fact that I am responsible, or have been responsible, for hundreds of computers in various business environments for decades, I have a lot of experience with all of them. I honestly can’t remember the last time Windows Update broke something vital to production on a PC. That’s not to say it doesn’t happen, it does and I’m also aware of that. But it’s very rare, so rare that I gave up testing updates before releasing them to end users a long time ago.
All of which means that what you experienced with a Mac OS update demonstrates that at least in this regard there is nothing superior about Mac’s as far as production (getting work done) is concerned. Swearing by the Macintosh computing system is simply a denial of reality.
Using a Mac is your call, like I said, I don’t care either way.
That said there is way, way too much nonsense floating around about Windows, Windows vs. Mac, the innate superiority of Mac computing, etc. All I’m doing is countering some of that nonsense.
Denying reality and believing nonsense is a good way to get your computer attacked and taken over by a black hat.
If you haven’t backed up your work to the point where if an update messes something up you can restore your work then you’re asking for trouble. Way more trouble than just not being able to do your work. You can lose EVERYTHING and lose it forever.
In the past I’ve had clients that believed what they want to believe in spite of me telling them otherwise. I had a $20 million dollar installation go down and lose everything because they ignored what I was telling them. It cost them a ton of money to get back into production. You’re not a client, you can ignore me too. The results will be the same if you do that. It is not a matter of if but of when that happens.
Whatever stops you from updating your computer puts you on the road to total loss of your data. You can find ways to work around that while still updating, I already told you how to do that. It’s your call if you want to take a chance on your work. On your own head be it.
My needs at this point in my life are minimal. I no longer work with developing apps and controlling desktops as I once did in my career. I just do a little page layout on the side for extra $$ to supplement my income. Macs remain to be the better machine for that type of work. I’ve never lost work or data as a result of taking the time to upgrade – on either Mac or Windows platforms. Nor have I ever been hacked as I keep my machine quite secure, recognize scams when I see them and don’t visit questionable sites that will download trojans and other malicious software / code to my machine. I’m good.
You say that as though it were a fact. I’m sorry but that just isn’t true. That’s an old wives tale, an urban legend from the past.
A long time ago Macs were better for some sorts of work. Adobe started out being written on and for Macs. This is where the supposed ‘graphics superiority’ of Macs comes from. Way back in the foggy gloom of computer history Macs came with a better graphics system, called a “graphics card”, than OTS (Off The Shelf) PCs so they actually did do a better job for that sort of work.
That situation ended decades ago and Adobe now works as well, and exactly the same, on a PC or a Mac. There is zero difference in the two when it comes to using Adobe software with the proviso that the hardware is comparable. PCs are not ‘better’ and neither are Macs.
Nothing published by Adobe is proprietary to Apple. Adobe gave up on that decades ago. There’s nothing from Adobe that works better on a Mac than a PC. Today.
It’s fine with me, as I’ve said, if you want to use your Mac. It’s not fine with me if you try to tell me something I know isn’t true. I’m probably not going to let that go, just FYI. I don’t like untruth sold as fact.
You asked and I was just trying to help you. There’s a very good reason why the first instinct I had was to ask you if you were current on all your updates. You popped all “Macs are best” on me so this is your own doing.
Don’t do your updates and backups, that’s fine with me too. Considering what I know about the current threat environment I know that’s unwise. I can’t be wise for you. It doesn’t matter how ‘secure’ you think you are if your OS is not up to date and has gaping holes the bad guys can drive their black trucks through. The more time that passes, the more likely you are to get hit by one of those trucks.
But hey, what do I know? I’m just some guy on the internet, huh? Excuse the hell out of me for trying to be helpful. I won’t make that mistake, with you, again.
Respectfully, Scott, you could not be more wrong about retribution. While I appreciate your desire to not be as bad as them, you’re fighting the last war. The radical left wing extremists who’ve seized control of the Democratic Party are no longer principled opposition. They genuinely hate us Normals and take delight in ruining our lives on a personal level. They can’t be reasoned with, and the only stimulus they respond to is pain. As long as they see their tactics as effective, and said tactics give them happiness, they will continue and most likely escalate.
Sorry, but tit for tat is the only way it stops. However distasteful said tactics may be to those of us with a soul, I don’t see an alternative. Britain’s firebombing of Dresden only came after the Brits got tired of the National Socialist Workers’ Party targeting their civilian populations.
Bingo. As always, Scott is trying very hard to take the moral high ground and, as always, if he does so, he’ll be pissed on every time by the left/proglodytes/democrats. It’s nice to be nice, Scott, but when you get your nose rubbed in your own fecal matter time after time, maybe it’s time to employ a different philosophy.
Another analogy may be the use of nuclear bombs to end world war 2. If we had continued to utilize “conventional” warfare many more millions would have died and we might be still trying to dig the fanatics out of the tunnels.
It’s time to not just use similar tactics as the leftists but to ratchet up!!
Did not the namesake of this website do an excellent Afterburner regarding tit for tat? Ah yes, it was called Game Theory. It should be reviewed once more by members and most importantly, the “talent” in this Right Angle.
I’ll wait a few hours for the return comment from one of the ‘Talent’, for it usually comes after a W2 gig is over.
I spent about 45 minutes looking for that Afterburner and can’t find it. Do you have a link?
Look down two commentsAfter looking at my quick reply, let me do better…
I uploaded a second comment on the 9th at 3:52 pm in this same thread. Scroll to see the photo of “young Bill” in the studio of the channel never to be named, with the old afterburner background behind him. It’s an, er, …”evaluation copy” I made years ago (hopefully beyond any statute of limitations) I had it sitting on my hard drive for years and finally decided to set up a Rumble (private, link only) account to share stuff like this.
“Tits McGee is on assignement. I’m Steve Green.”
Hot Mike is on Assignment!
The Joseph McBride quote is a confession without an admission of guilt. Tribal “justice” is already here, but it’s not wrong until the other tribe is in charge.
Life would be so much easier if everybody would just be nice and play by the same rules. Unfortunately, nearly half the country went from being ignored to being ridiculed and now perceive that they are being targeted. To borrow from “Network”, they’re mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. I hope there is a way to land this plane smoothly but I don’t know if they will settle for anything less than a hard reckoning.
Perhaps I’m just in a dark mood, but I think the only way to get around of all the people who are going to cling to all the cruft that’s choking the republic is to abandon them. If we try to chip away at all the social programs and the “National Security” piecemeal we will never be done within our own lifetimes. We’d have better luck gathering up all the like minded people to colonize Antarctica or something. Well that or move to a state with good protection for alternative currencies and start persuading businesses to stop accepting the dollar. The idea being that it doesn’t matter how much the feds and other welfare recipients get paid if they can’t buy groceries. Yes I know that’s about as likely as getting everyone on a ship to Antarctica but, whatever the fix is it’s going to be a lot of work.
“Fact-free conspiracy theories” seem to be gaining traction at an accelerating pace, with an avalanche of facts peeking out from behind the facades constructed by the Dems and the Left – but I repeat myself – to keep them hidden.
Today’s “conspiracy theory” is yesterday’s “that’s old news, we should just move on.”
“What does it mean when a “die-hard Lefty” finds common cause with those on the right outraged about the Special Administrative Measures invoked against some of the accused?”
That there’s hope?
don’t hold your breath.
Rational self-interest. He just doesn’t want to be caught up in the retribution that Scott decries. In other words, it’s only through fear of retribution that the left can be cowed into civil behavior.
Consider it “si vis pacum para bellum” through other means.