This day in 1944, the US set about to put an end to the threat of Nazism.
This day in 2021, the government of that same country is doing everything it can to destroy the reason why those men stormed the beaches.
In 1944, we fought against tyranny.
In 2021, we’re still fighting against tyranny, but this time, on our own shores…
In 1944, God was worshipped by most.
In 2021, God is ignored by most.
In almost every way, the reasons why we stormed those beaches have been instituted here by those in power. Why? Simply put, we allowed it.
We allowed it. We. Allowed. It. The same way most in Germany allowed those things to be instituted there. It all started with a willingness to ignore God and His Word.
Every single person in this country has spat on their graves to allow what they died for to become the law. You may not like what I say, but sometimes the truth hurts. It should.
It will end here the same way it ended there. Who do we blame this time? All we have to do is look in the mirror. We only have ourselves to blame.
I’d like to say that there’s light at the end of the tunnel, and there may well be, but most will not experience that light because they’re too busy trying to make God’s Word say something it doesn’t.
Lots of chatter about who’s going to heaven and who’s going to hell. Lots of people are going to be surprised, don’t make the decision where you wind up surprised.
If you think you’re “good”, Bible has a passage on that.
If you think you’re “bad”, Bible has a passage on that.
Listen to what the Word says, not what you *think* it says.
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Who is this “we” you speak of? Who is the “we” that “allowed it”?
Not me. I served in the Armed Forces of the United States of America. I spent more Christmases and holidays on foreign soil away from my family than I care to remember. I lost part of my right hand in the process. I am personally responsible for the lawful destruction or imprisonment of genuine terrorists both here and abroad.
I have worked in election campaigns and I have voted every single time voting has been available to me. Every, Single, Time.
I raised my two sons to be upstanding Christian men of good character and conservative politics. I took the time to explain why the way I was raising them was the best way for them, our Nation and our God. I explained why conservatism is the best route to take for our future. They are raising their families now in the same fashion.
I attended School Board meetings and spoke out against policies and curriculum that I considered wrong. I even went so far as to sit in on my boys classes a few times, much to their dismay, and spoke out when the teacher usurped my authority as a parent and as my kids moral authority … To their even further dismay
Every single June 6th that I was home and able to I bought a bottle of peppermint schnapps and went to my Father-in-Law’s farm. I bought schnapps because that’s what he liked, I’m a bourbon and scotch man myself. His wife, my Mother-in-Law, hated liquor so this was one of the very few times a year she would look the other way, and she understood completely why that was a good idea.
We would quietly walk out to his “shop” and sit down on old steel folding chairs. He would take the cap off that bottle and throw it in the trash can. We would drink many toasts and tell many stories that day because …
My Father-in-Law was in the 4th American wave to come ashore at Omaha Beach, Normandy, France, on the morning of 06 June 1944.
I would later tell his stories properly credited to him, to his grandsons as they grew up and were capable of dealing correctly with that information.
My Father served two tours in the Korean War with the U.S. Army. He suffered PTSD for the rest of his life as a result. He most definitely had the symptoms before anyone ever coined the phrase “Post Traumatic Stress Disorder”. He called it “shell shock”.
Both my Brothers-in-Law rose to high enlisted rank in the U.S. Navy. One of them was on the “Glomar Explorer” project and the sub that laid the Kamchatka tapping pods.
One of my sons is second in command at a U.S. Naval Base. He flew combat missions in the Second Gulf War. He missed a few of his kids Christmases too.
None of the above are the “we” you accuse so cravenly.
I didn’t “allow this”. I fought “this” my whole life. Could I have done more? Sure, who couldn’t say they might have done more … On either side? Even so, I did a LOT and I have no reason to shoulder the blame you’re trying to lay on “us” for “allowing it”.
This is a serious problem on the right because this “we” crap is falsely laying blame on the wrong party. It’s demoralizing and untrue. I am not among the “we” who allowed this and if you are then you have every reason to hang your own head in mortal shame. But you only speak for yourself. You certainly do not speak for me and I’m certain you do not speak for a lot of people here on this site.
I’ve been on Bill Whittle’s site for a while now and though there are a few exceptions the majority of the people here are a lot more like me than not. They may not have carried a rifle or a handgun in the line of duty but they have been fighters all their lives. They also have every right to be offended by your “we”.
It really pisses me off when people say “we” did this thing that is happening to our Great Republic. I absolutely am not among that “we” and you owe US an apology..
WE, meaning people like ME, have an enemy in this nation today. That enemy is the Leftist, post-Modern Neo-Marxist. They are the enemy trying to take my country from me and my progeny. .I am not one of them. WE do not support, sympathize with nor ignore that enemy, so don’t count me in your “we”.
WE, people like me, have been trying our best to warn people like you about this threat and enlist your help for decades. WE are not afraid to name the true enemy and if you’re not among the enemy then neither should you. You most definitely should not be including most of the people who subscribe to this site in your “we” either.
I don’t give a flying rat’s distal alimentary orifice about grumpy old farts that want to lay blame collectively on the rest of us. I can’t even understand why you would do that, let alone agree with you doing it. If blaming the collective “we” for the existential threat to our Republic makes you feel anything but shame for yourself then maybe you need to take a good, long, hard look at why you’re doing that.
While you’re at it, make a sincere effort to realize that not everyone is a “we” like you are.
What I’d like to know is where the hell were YOU when my family, my friends and I were doing all the things and more that I listed above? Because if you were with us defending our Republic on the field of battle, in the school boards and the voting booths — You could never, ever call yourself the “we” that “allowed it”.
YOU speak for yourself. You can keep your “we”, I won’t wear it for you or anyone else. None of the rest of us should do that either.
WE are fighters, I have no idea what you are or the “we” you include yourself among.
Take your “we” and go play in a busy intersection somewhere.
Your emotions over the idolatry of a country that is ruled by people who glorify infanticide and all sorts of sin are most telling. Your FIL fought for a country that does not exist anymore except in name only. Yes, it was “shell shock”, PTSD was coined as a result of the changing of the language.
That same changing of the language allowed those in power to force their ideologies onto a populace who never faced real hardship. You and yours may not accept it, but mark my words, the ideologies of the left will continue to advance until their blood runs in the streets of America.
I say “we” because I am a physical citizen of this modern Sodom and Gomorrah. Though spiritually, I am a monarchist and my King reigns in Heaven and will soon reign upon this earth. I do not idolize man’s attempts to bring peace on the earth because not even the King of Heaven comes to bring peace, but division and destruction upon all of man’s achievements.
No, I’m not happy to have to say what I did, but it needed to be said. “We” malign those honored dead by not taking the necessary steps to uphold the ideals they died for.
The “rah rah rah America first” crowd, Trump worshippers and the “audit acolytes” had better get one thing through their head: If God doesn’t judge America, He’ll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.
God doesn’t apologize, He promises.
Step back from the idolatry of an idea and embrace the Word of God and open your eyes to what is coming.
WE, people like me did not do any of that. WE do not spit on the graves of dead Patriots. WE do not idolize anything. I taught my children their order of loyalty is God, Family and then Country.
I too am an monarchist and acknowledge the same King as you but I do not go around laying blame on the good, and in doing so calling good evil, to satisfy my own smug self-righteousness.
You speak for yourself. My advice is to remember that.
“Good”? Who is “good”? Think there’s an answer to that question in Mark 10:18
You assume my self-righteousness… Of the two of us, who thinks they deserve to go to heaven? I know I do not.
I do know this, come the Day of the Lord, the flag of the United States of America will burn with the same brightness of the burning of the flag of the CCP.
To assume anything else is a folly.
Westboro Baptist Church called, they said they miss you and please come back soon. You’re exactly the type of phony “Christian” they like to hang out with.
The term “self-righteousness” has nothing to do with whether or not you think you’re going to get into heaven. Go look it up.
Second thought, don’t bother. Here’s the definition –
self-right·eous
/ˌself ˈrīCHəs/
adjective
adjective: self-righteous
Do you see anything about you thinking you’re going to get into heaven in that? I don’t but it describes you and people like you to several decimal places.
Note that I never said you’re genuinely righteous, I said you’re smugly self-righteous. Your false piety is Pharisaic, you parade it like a Golden Calf and wield it, not The Word and not The Spirit, like a weapon. A weapon you use to drub anyone who isn’t “Jesus-Enough” for you at first blush. You fairly leapt at the chance to display your own self-righteousness and trod on everything else I said in your stampede to display your hollow piety.
That you would do this to other Christians who would nominally be on your side is despicable. In doing so you betray your own Brothers in Christ Jesus and sully His Holy Name thereby.
Try applying 2 Corinthians 4:5 a bit more enthusiastically.
Just as I never said that you’re righteous, I never said I was “good”, I absolutely would never make that claim for myself as I know better. I said you call good evil. As in Isaiah 5:20 and woe to you for calling good evil and evil good. Your twisting of my words is worthy of the Serpent himself. Far better men than you have laid down their lives for God first and Country second. It is you who spit on their graves with your Pharisaic false pieties and smarmy self-righteousness.
God the Creator, El-Shaddai HIMSELF, gave us America, it was founded with prayer and gratitude to Him and paid for in blood. We hold it in stewardship for Him, as we do any other Earthly possession. At least some of us do and those who meet that criteria are the kind of people I named above. People who will fight for what is right, for what is Holy, and if need be give their sacred Honor, treasure and even their lives to that greater, Godly purpose envisioned by the Founders and Blessed by Heaven itself. The “we” I belong to do not give up and we do not curse the Gift of the Land which God Almighty has entrusted us with.
You are an ungrateful POS for turning your back on that Gift. You are like a spoiled child who doesn’t get things the way he wants them so tries to tear down what he is given. You don’t have the toy you want and things aren’t the way you want so your solution is to dynamite the toy box.
Evil never stops, evil never sleeps but do you know what evil does do? It applauds your curses and derision of the unprecedented blessings you enjoy. Evil admires the hellfire and brimstone you call down on God’s Gift and any of God’s People who you don’t approve of. Evil loves your hatred of the state of things because your hatred serves evil as well or better than love does. Evil doesn’t care how it wins, only that it wins.
I know this, the flag of the United States of America may or may not be burned at the Last Trumpet, it certainly has been burned before and by evil people. However, if I or anyone like me is the bearer it will dip in tribute and reverence, then be furled forever in submission to the King of Kings. The gift from that King held in stewardship for Him will gladly be returned to His care and that flag, despite people like you and those who can’t wait to see it burn, will be flown no more. There will no longer be any need for it and I very much look forward to that day. No one craves peace as much as a warrior.
It’s fair to assume from what you’ve said that you are among the “we” you accuse so wantonly and venially. By your own language you include yourself. So be it. You’re clearly among the “we” that has brought this nation to its current state so including yourself is correct.
Speaking for anyone else is not. You haven’t the right and you cannot bestow upon yourself that right. Neither has Heaven granted you that right.
Oh, and one more thing. If you consider yourself a Conservative please consider swapping sides. The Left loves hypocrites like you, you do their work for them. You’re as anti-American as they are but with greater effect and even less excuse.
TLDR…
You assume too much.
You pray for the country while I pray for the individual. “Come out of her, my people…” is a command from The Lord (Revelation 18:4)
Of course you “didn’t read that”. YYSSW. Don’t read this either, you won’t like it any more than my previous reply that you *ahem* “didn’t read”.
I never said one word about praying for the country not the individual. YOU made that up all on your own. It’s you who assumes too much and you’re a liar to boot for fabricating that nonsense. If you have to invent a falsehood to support your phony piety that only exposes the emptiness of your hypocrisy.
You say you “pray for the individual” but you recklessly and venially, without the slightest right to do so, used “we” to refer to others. The word “we” is not singular, it’s plural not individual.
Then you have the unmitigated gall to quote Holy Scripture out of context to support your false piety and blatant hypocrisy.
Because Revelations 18 deals with FALLEN Babylon…
It begins with an angel descending from heaven with great authority who illuminates the Earth with his splendor. That’s not something that can happen in secret or go unnoticed, is it?
Remind me when that angel made his appearance. I’m pretty sure that hasn’t happened yet. I’m certain that would be something I and billions of other people would have noticed. Or are you going to claim that’s not a literal, real event and God lied to John about it?
The command “Come out of her, my people” applies to people in that time, after Babylon the Great has fallen, after that angel makes his appearance. So that God’s people would not share in the punishment of Babylon. This fits with every other time God has removed His people before serving Judgement. He did that in Sodom and Gomorrah. He did that with the Great Flood. He’s doing it in the future date that Revelations 18 applies to.
That time has not come yet. Even if you are so ignorant of Scripture so as to think somehow the U.S. is “Babylon the Great”, that fall has not happened and that angel has not come to illuminate the Earth with his splendor.
You twist God’s Word like the Prince of Darkness. You are clearly nowhere near as pious nor as educated in The Word as you’d like everyone to think you are. You are a pharisaic poser.
You tried to lie. I didn’t let you lie.
You don’t speak for me, you only speak for yourself. I’m not in the “we” you addressed in your initial post.
Be advised, that Revelations 18:4 verse “Come out of her, My people …” is cited without the rest of that sentence and out of context by every wannabe cultist in history, and some of those wannabes became real cultists …
Just a guess here but you’re not one of those Christian Identity/British Israelism heretics, are you? If you are, that would explain a lot because you sound just like those nincompoops.
And there it is… I had to wade through all that drivel to find out who you are… You belong on gab with all of your Jew-hating brethren…
Genesis 12:3
You curse the Jew, you reap the reward. Call God a liar, you reap the reward…
Practice the idolatry of your father, the same father that Jesus called the Pharisees’ father, he who will stand in the Holy Place and declare himself above all that is called god.
Go and bow before your gods of stone and flags and kiss the boots of your earthly masters for those that died for the ideals enshrined in the Constitution scream at us from the hereafter “WHY? WHY? WHY?”
I don’t care if you read what I say or not. I’m not writing this for you, I’m writing it so that people will not be deceived by you.
You’re a liar. I don’t hate Jews. Show me where I said that I hate Jews. Quote my exact words, I dare you. I’m a member of CUFI, hardly something a Jew hater would be.
You have to make up nonsense like that, which is a lie, to support your lies.
Unless of course by “Jews” you mean white European types that under the precepts of the Christian Identity/British Israelism heresy have reinvented themself as Jews.
Redefining words and applying your own definition while interacting with others would be a common cultist trick and I wouldn’t put it past you.
To be clear, when I say “Jew” or “Hebrew” or “Israelite” I mean the people commonly called such in the modern vernacular. Those people have had their DNA traced back to Biblical times and some are even positively ID’d as descendants of Levi and Joshua.
You are not one of those people.
I never called God a liar either. That would be you, who twisted His words by taking a quote from Revelations out of context in your attempt to deceive people. As I very clearly demonstrated. Take the advice you yourself gave in the last line of your blog post — “Listen to what the Word says, not what you *think* it says.”
I address the points you make directly. You can’t counter a single point I made, all you do is build straw men and burn them down with your own matches.
This is obvious and will make our differences clear to anyone who reads this. That’s the only reason I continue responding to you, so that others will not be duped by liars like you.
I will continue to point out your false accusations and lies for that same reason. People need to be warned about people like you
What you say makes you sound like a cult member, not a Christian. I notice you didn’t deny that you’re a “Christian Identity” cult heretic. There’s nothing Christian about “Christian Identity”, it’s a misleading appellation like “Black Lives Matter”. It’s also highly anti-American and often times involved in criminal acts of terrorism.
It’s good for people to learn about that kind of thing and I encourage anyone to look up “Christian Identity” and get back to me. I have studied cultism for a very long time and am happy to explain myself to anyone interested.
I’m still not certain if that’s what you are, or if you’re a Herbert W. Armstrong heretic or if you’re just a garden variety nincompoop. No doubt I’ll find out if this conversation continues.
Notice that no one else is reading your blog? Any point you hoped to make is not resonating with anyone. That’s because you’re a liar.
Go ahead and say you didn’t read this again. That’s always good for a laugh too.
I apologize for the “Jew-hater” comment. Wouildn’t you know it, that I came across something that explained “British Israelism” is just a day later.
That said, I do not assign any value to any “Christian” denominations or view because most of them have twisted the Word to say what they think it says.
I do not believe anyone has rebranded themselves as Jews. The “synagogue of Satan” line is directed at anyone who practices deception when regarding the Word i.e. Catholics, Mormons, Pharisees et al.
No, I don’t think the US is Babylon, as I believe Babylon, the actual city, will be a major player on the world stage come those days. I believe that that passage can apply anywhere God’s people happen to be.
BTW, I take Scripture seriously, not literally. Those two words are not synonymous. I believe the entire Book is God speaking to man and every passage in it is for everyone and everything. God uses figures of speech and examples to get His point across. Should we not learn from the message God sent us in His destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah?
Christians like to use 2 Chronicles 7:14 when talking about the restoration of America. Was God talking about Israel or America? Or any place? What’s your view on that? Maybe it’s a misapplication of that verse?
No, no one else has responded to my initial post, only you… You have taken the time out of your day to spew at me for maligning your memory of a dead country, which, btw, died in 1913, then was further buried by SCOTUS in 1963, stones were piled high upon it 1971 and a statue to Moloch was erected atop it in 1973. Death of a thousand cuts…
I’m sorry you idolize your country, I’m sorry that this country does not resemble what those men died for in WWII and every war since…
In closing, I’ll respond to you as long as you respond to me.
Apology accepted. I have no idea where you got that idea. That you did get that idea shows you’re not paying attention. You’re hearing what you want to hear, not what I’m saying and you’re still doing that.
So you’re reading The Word the way you want to read it. In effect, you’re reading what you want it to say. The Bible is largely literal unless it’s obviously allegorical. The parables of Jesus are allegories. The events described in the book of Revelations are literal but related in the context of first century understanding. The historic events in the Old Testament are literal, Joshua really did blow a bunch of horns and cause the city walls of Jericho to fall. Etc.
Specifically –
The extreme proves the point. So the passage in John 1:1 applies to whether or not you buy a diesel or a gasoline powered vehicle? You did say “for everyone and everything”. That might seem spurious but if John 1:1 does not apply to the kind of fuel you burn then it does not apply to “everything and everyone”, it applies to the “everything and everyone” that you decide it does. That’s heretical and probably blasphemous.
If you do not understand these things then you are making Scripture say what you want it to and apply where you want it to. That’s a pretty bold act by someone claiming to rightly divide the Word of God.
The way you rationalize the literal words in Revelations to excuse your twisting of God’s Word proves you apply His Word arbitrarily to suit yourself. Your “Come out of her My people” demonstrates this unequivocally.
What an absurd idea. “My country” is the people of the United States of America. It has a government but the government is not the Country. So you effectively said that I worship the people who live in the USA. That’s why it’s an absurd idea. Of course I don’t do that. Nor do I personally know one single person who does.
It looks to me like if either of us is worshipping a country it’s you, worshipping the country you say “died” in 1913, worshipping a country that was, in your view, and is no more. That must give you the excuse not to try to revive this nation, good for you. Revival is clearly something you oppose because were it to occur you’d no longer have anything to look down your nose at.
I told you that my order of fealty is God, Family and then Country. I hold no other gods before or greater than El Shaddai, God the Creator. Would someone who idolizes this country put it dead last in third place? Why are you not paying attention to what I say? It’s pretty hard to have a conversation with someone who ignores anything he doesn’t want to hear so stop doing that.
You’re one of those people who live in the USA and I assure you most sincerely that I do not idolize you. Though I also assure you most sincerely that despite your absurd ideas I have in my life acted to protect you and to protect your right to have absurd ideas all you want. I don’t agree with your absurd ideas, nor your whimsical application of Holy Writ, nor come to think of it pretty much anything about you personally and I’m happy to hold you to account for what you say. But I don’t idolize you or anyone else.
That said, there are good, decent, Christian people in this country and God has not abandoned them. You’re just mounting your high horse trying to make yourself better than others who have every right to claim the salvation that comes by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ. You’re not better and have no basis for your disdain.
You seem to be laboring in the pit of exclusionary extremes. A man can be a son, a brother and a father all at once. A person can be a patriot and a God-fearing, Bible believing Christian at the same time.
Then there is the heresy of “Americanism” which forbids Church leaders from speaking publicly about morals and faith. I’m not one of those either and a patriot is not necessarily an Americanist Heretic nor vice verse.
Nor am I some misbegotten Phyletist, I do not confuse nationalitism with Christianity … but you seem to think everyone not like you is a worshipper of nationalism heresies. We’re not and if that’s what you think you’re badly mistaken.
In fact, most of the greatest patriots are both patriot and true Christian. Having had personal experience with various special units in times past, I know that nearly to a man they are sincere, believing Christians. They live on the pointy end of the spear and understand things better than usually given credit for. Knowing their lives could be demanded of them any day at any time they are very profoundly aware of salvation through Grace.
Being aware of these things does not constitute “idolizing my nation” by a long, long shot. Your piety is not increased by your disdain for your fellow American Christians and self-elevation above any who do not agree with your false doctrines that despise the rest of the Body of Christ in America.
So what are you, a Millerite? Adventist follower of Ellen White? A Witness? Why won’t you say, what are you so ashamed of?
What is the significance of those dates you cited? The 16th and17th Amendments were passed in 1913, and Woodrow Wilson infamously created the Federal Reserve but that’s all I’m aware of that was notable that year pertaining to America as a nation.
Those were grave political mistakes but political and spiritual are not synonyms any more than serious and literal are. If you’re confusing politics and faith then confused you are indeed.
The American Ideal has been compromised, wrongly, many times by politics but that does not mean the nation “died” spiritually. What never lived spiritually cannot die spiritually and the politics of the nation are secular, not spiritual.
The Roman government may have been accursed by Heaven but the Christians living in the sway of Rome were not. The sins of the government do not accrue to the People and especially not to all subsequent generations. If that were so, you’re as damned as the rest of us. It’s thus a very good thing for us that it is not so.
The nation can be wrong, to a greater or lesser degree as it is an institute of men and as fallible as its weakest point. In the matter of men and their institutions I worship nor idolize neither the men nor the institutions. God is never wrong, and for Him I do both.
“What is the significance of those dates you cited? The 16th and17th Amendments were passed in 1913, and Woodrow Wilson infamously created the Federal Reserve but that’s all I’m aware of that was notable that year pertaining to America as a nation”
Not long after the removal of God from the classroom, evolution sprang up to fill that void, indoctrinating most the last 3 generations into believing that God has no place in the public realm and life itself is some sort of cosmic accident. That is a total rejection of God and everything He stands for.
The unpegging of the dollar from gold is the reason we have, at a minimum, a 28 T national debt, and that’s not even all of it.
Infanticide, what better way to show God that your country doesn’t respect life than to allow the murder of the innocent in the most sacred place? Life is cheap and completely at the whims of others is what this teaches.
The last one, 2003 case. The revival of the goings on of Sodom and Gomorrah… What better way to stymie the perpetuation of the species than by promoting and glorifying the abominable?
The walls of Jericho were brought down by God, not just because Joshua blew the horns but because Joshua followed the directions, to a “T”, given to him by He who commanded Joshua to “Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon you standest is holy”.. Now this individual is described with the title of “captain of the host of the Lord” while allowing Joshua to fall down and worship Him. Who is this? Possibly an early appearance of Jesus? Who is Jesus? John 1:1 tells us that. So does Revelation 1…
The Kingdom of Israel was completely wiped out by the Assyrians for their idolatry. Not everyone there partook of that idolatry, but they were either wiped out or hauled off in chains all the same.
I don’t believe in this “10 lost tribes” noise either. During and after that civil war, those in Judah who wanted to practice idolatry went north to what would become the Kingdom of Israel and those in the north that wanted to worship the true God went to Judah.
I don’t believe that the Christian of today, in America, is going to be immune to what has befallen the Christian body throughout the world as a whole, throughout the last 2000 years. I don’t see any place in Scripture, even the most remotely vague description of what would be America in the End Times.
We are knocking on the door of the end times… The church age of Laodicea, if you will. Where is Jesus? He’s outside, knocking to get in. Who is He talking to? “Whoever”…
The fact that you think I’m insulting those who have died for this country show me that you have lofty ideals for a land that God Himself didn’t bother mentioning anywhere in Scripture. Anywhere.
But then, I’m the one who said “Scripture is for everyone and everything.
Yeah, a revival would be nice, and we’ll get one, but it’ll be ruled from Jerusalem by the one who said “Before Abraham was, I am”.
I’m looking forward to that.