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2022 Election (Initial) De-Brief: Early Voting, Trump Impact, Florida Shocker and GOP Message

2022 Election (Initial) De-Brief: Early Voting, Trump Impact, Florida Shocker and GOP Message

PRODUCTION NOTE: As we experiment with a new format for Right Angle, this is the full session for those who prefer long-form video or audio. What you’ll see here is what we have called Backstage.

Separately, you can find topical breakout segments drawn from this. Your suggestions and ideas appreciated as we fine-tune (and rough-tune) the production.

https://youtu.be/EgoxZoYqHIc

53 replies on “2022 Election (Initial) De-Brief: Early Voting, Trump Impact, Florida Shocker and GOP Message”

When the choice is between politicians who fight for child sacrifice and every stripe of perversion, and most Republicans, making up your mind (in stone) early is mind-bogglingly easy.I grew up in Lake County, IN, and in the shadow of Crook County, IL. This whole region is home of the 110% voter turnout.Many of my sports teams have lost games because of a bad call. I finally realized that REAL champions don’t let it get close enough that a bad call will change the results. This applies to the Republican Party. Tragically, this also now applies to America. The “Supreme” Court made America a non-champion when they exiled God from our nation.

Enough about the format of the show! I’ll just say I like it and move onto what the show was about. I agree that Trump has become toxic to the Republican Party, but with his popularity we cannot just push him out. What needs to be done, which I don’t know that it is possible, is convince Trump he should wait on the sidelines until the voters have chosen who they want. Then no matter what his feelings about the candidate. Move in and throw in his support for them to get his base support behind them. Because it is not about getting my candidate in, it’s about getting a Republican candidate in office. I would certainly like to hear from Bill, Scott, and Steve about what they think about this, as well as everyone else to. I’ll post another comment about the election system as it is run now separately as I don’t want to make this post too long.

Here’s my concern with the new format.

Why should I watch any video besides this one, since the shorter bits are repeats of this?

I think that your viewer counts are going to go down if all you are doing is posting cuts of the same thing. Right Angle has essentially gone from 5 (including backstage) shows a week to 1. Doesn’t feel like that’s as good a value for the production dollars as it was before.

The scantron we used at the University would regularly misread students’ standardized tests and they would bring it to my attention so I could correct their grades. It was a small but regular occurrence. Meanwhile, elections are won and lost by small margins.

I made a couple of comments on this video over on YouTube. I always click to pop these out and watch them on YouTube. For the video segments you make public, I have a suggestion. Go watch a few “Timcast IRL” videos and you will see what I mean. The “Timcast IRL” channel does a live 90 minute discussion show and then segments get cut into shorter 10-20 minute long individual YouTube videos. Look at how they cut each segment and paly an ending piece. I like the live discussion panel format you are testing this time around. I think it just needs some sort of ending piece to conclude it. Thx Gentlemen! And go check out my comments I made on YouTube please!
–Mark S.

Analogy; our new “modern” voting systems in many states is like parking your car on a side street, over night, with no street lighting, and leaving an open duffle bag full of cash on the dashboard, while hoping nothing bad happens to your car or cash. The motive for cheating in elections is immense. The opportunities, as much as possible, must be eliminated.
-small precincts
-with list of names
-I.D.
-paper ballots
-counted at each precinct
-video cameras and poll watchers.
When the consequence for incompetence or cheating in a small precinct is neighbors knocking on your door, problem solved.

Unfortunately the risk of cheating in elections is very low. The potential for reward is huge. Why wouldn’t people cheat in elections? Our new junkmail voting system if full of opportunities to cheat.

Apologies for replying to my own comment. When we add in the opportunities in the electronic/online sphere of potential election cheating, it’s as if we are begging people to cheat.

I like the longer form discussion. What I do not like so much is just cutting this into three pieces for public, non-member consumption as is. Many of the interview podcasts that I listen to contain some form of intro or “outro” or both to frame the interview. Those seem to be done in post-production. I think doing that for each of the three segments that go out through the podcast and video platforms will make it seem less like a chopped-up discussion. As for the production itself, I did not like the screen moving back on forth. I found it dizzying and distracting. I preferred the old tri-panel format. I also did not care for Bill shouting over Scott and occasionally Steve, even though I disagree with Scott on this. We can have impassioned debate without that. I want to hear both sides of every argument. I learn how to defend my point of view by preparing myself for the times I am debating someone.

Having lived most of my life in Japan, most of my voting has been absentee. We have a personal relationship with the registrar of Franklin County, Virginia, where we are registered to vote, and this year she very kindly let me know when our ballots arrived. My wife and I have to each sign the other’s inner security envelope as witness, and since our return to the US is “indefinite,” we only get to vote in federal elections, and in this case, for our representative, and not for state offices. Se got our votes in early because of the time and uncertainty of trans-Pacific mail at this point, post-COVID.

The audio format is great, but the bouncing boxes was making me dizzy. PLEASE go back to the stationary three panels. You can vary the order for different episodes, but the constant moving around was very distracting. I ended up not watching the episode (I did listen, though).

Honestly, I’m not thrilled about the new format. Other than the camera flips. Now I’d be only giving all my RA viewer counts to BlueTube instead of Rumble. Why watch the segmented show on Rumble (raising viewer counts) and the Backstage (BlueTube)? Nah, it’ll only turn me off to the Backstage show, since I swore off BlueTube. Backstage is the only thing I watch that’s at least “from” BlueTube.
Also, not having the cool, “distinctive” thumbnails makes differentiating from the episodes much harder.

What was Trumps objectives?

Eliminate the RINO’s and he did that by putting up his own people and getting them though and where that failed he opposed the RINO candidate the Republican party still insisted in running. He now has what is needed a RINO free congress. You never had a Republican majority in Congress in 2017-2020. The RINO’s betrayed you on Obama care, staff picks, leaks, Covid cures and committees. Expose ballot fraud by provoking the Democrats to do it publicly in the eyes of all and on camera. In eight states you no longer have an electoral system you have a ballot harvesting system. DeSantis could have run in place of Oz and he would have lost. Hershel Walker did not loose the vote he just lost the count. This is true in AZ, NV, GA, CA, PA, MI, NY, OR. Where real elections were held in other states Trumps people all won and you had a Red wave. Some won with zero RNC support because the RNC saw some seat as unwinnable. Win the seats where the fraud is most obvious. In AZ and NV they are still fighting because the population voted in person in a system that tried to block it. In both cases you have leftists trying to slow the vote count because they know the Republican won. Trump had a big war chest of funds he did not spend on campaigns because he knew he would need it for lawyers in this phase. In AZ, and we think NV, they have the ballot centers locked down, watchers and lawyers, so the left can’t smuggle in fake ballots for Katie Hobbs or Mark Kelly, or Masto in NV. They will have to declare next week for Kari Lake and Blake Masters and he is number 50 in the Senate. Laxalt is 51 and leads by 0.5% with mostly Republican districts to count. There are big state legislature wins going unnoticed, even in California. Reforming congress and getting rid of Mitch McConnel and the compromising Chamber of Commerce approach. Senators’ elect are already talking about major pro-main street changes that sidelines Wall Street and the Chamber of Commerce lobbies in the RNC. In 2017-2019 the Republicans got through a lot of obscure legislation that activates in 2023. No-one reads legislation. These move some powers out of the White House. Some are conditional on Biden’s actions. He is locked in to those actions by the left. Maintain Trumps foreign policy. Most people don’t know Biden is still stuck enforcing Trumps policies on China. Its set up so that if Biden stops enforcing the legislation, it was not just executive orders, he becomes impeachable. No-one reads legislation!!! Even the scare mongering about Republicans’ doing oversight on and limiting money for Ukraine is Trump, and Zelenskyy’s agreed policy. Zelenskyy does not trust Biden. Ditto Kim Jong Un, reunification is not surrender and is slow. Build up the state and local levels. School boards, city councils, state legislatures. The media is not reporting it but Maga has swept that field where possible. The have maga democrats in some cases in California. Get the successful governors to stay the hell where they are! The Trump DeSantis fight is fake and probably by agreement. He needs those bulwark states in 2024-2028. The Trump Pompeo fight is also fake. This pulls anti Trump to DeSantis and then on though him to Pompeo, while testing out Pompeo. Trump and Pompeo needs a contested Republican primary with Cheney in the mx. They need to get foreign policy debates within the RNC thrashed out. They need to expose Cheney’s faction and turn her supporters to at least Pompeo.He has achieved all these objectives.

mmm formatting keeps breaking!?!

Scott, I have seen video of Democrats, from a decade or so back, where they were talking about how the absentee mail-in ballots were at risk for fraud. So there is inherent risk of tampering.

Well, there is little for me to like about this new format. Each of the three episodes seem chopped and disconnected. The original, members only is too long and seems even more rambling than the old backstage format. I am likely a disenfranchised minority given the many comments praising this new format. I prefer the rehearsals and polished products.

I agree. The episodes end too abruptly, and I miss the distinct thumbnails. They made it easier to differentiate between the episodes.
I’m only now watching the backstage here. I thought Scott took some ventriloquism classes, but I see he’s more animated here…lol.

I like this newish format. I have always liked the backstage but felt that I needed to watch the individual episodes too, because like Steve said in last week’s backstage, “I won’t say it now, I’ll save it for the segment.” Or something like that. If this is going to be the full Monty, for members only, and the divided segments are for public view, that’s great. But it is very confusing when Scott wears his segment black shirt during the essentially backstage session. Where was the blue and white plaid shirt? Maybe the camera got confused too, which was why Scott’s picture froze shortly into the segment.

A better foot ball analogy is that you were expecting to win the game by three goals but have won by one goal yet the announcer is declaring the other team to be the winner because the refs are all bought off and someone’s hacked the scoreboard. You have a 52 seat win in the Senate but counting has stopped in AZ and NV. In the House even NBC is saying its 222 to 212 in the Republican favor. Unless your on Rumble or Locals or Truth Social you would never know Kari Lake is holding cabinet meetings and all the Republicans in the AZ are averaging 60-90 % of the vote with a target of 52%. The left bureaucrats are refusing to publish the result in AZ because as soon as Kari Lake is sworn in their all unemployed and some will be facing police investigations.

I enjoyed fellowship with my regular Wednesday morning bible study group when I learned the Red Wave turned out to be nothing but a tiny ripple. As I left the study time all I wanted to share with my friends is the bible verse, John 3:19…Almost anyone can quote you the verse of John 3:16 but most don’t remember what Jesus said right after that. “this is the testimony or condemnation, that light has come to the world but men loved darkness more than the light because their deeds were evil”. We just have to realize that if the world hated Jesus they will hate us as well. We will need to learn that the majority of the people in the country do not want to live right or do right, they are just interested in “ME, and MINE”.
I had to come back and add a note to Scott toward the end of the episode. I could not disagree with Scott any more than I do when it comes to Obama not being the head of the Demo party. I believe with all my heart that he has never left office when it comes to pulling the puppet strings that control Biden and all the leaders in that party. I only wish he would ride off into the sunset.

Ronald Reagan had a unifying message. He was famously loyal to his adopted Republican Party and their principles. He was loyal to his fellow Republican politicians, as in his (Perhaps apocryphal) 11th commandment “Thou shall not say anything bad about a fellow Republican.” On the right, the harshest invectives are saved for fellow Republicans. It’s absolutely true that we should hold politicians accountable, but I believe it is also true that this is why we struggle to get our message across to convince our opponents to switch to our side and vote for us.We tell everyone who will listen that someone on our team is not worthy of support, is stupid, a scoundrel and loser, then wonder why we can’t muster support. Young adults have been indoctrinated into Leftist values that say Republicans are evil incarnate. We need a coherent and unified message to crack through that wall of lies. I don’t have much hope that will happen. We seem to value our own opinions more than we value the team overall. It’s a feature of Conservatism, being an individual with rights and views and the means to defend them. In the end, we may value our individualism to the point of the extinction of our cause.

I like the new format with you 3 jumping in the big frame. I agree with you on the football analogy. Red Wave my hind end.I went to my County Board of Elections & voted electronically. Not that I trust those but I sure don’t trust drop boxes, mail in ballots or the USPS. If we lose Vegas & Arizona I’ll never vote again but at my age I may not live to 2024.

I think the issue with Trump still being the leader of the Republican Party is that the vast majority of Republicans think 2020 was stolen. If they thought Trump had lost, they’d move on to the next leader. I think that squares with all the former Presidents not being the leader of their parties after a defeat.

Early voting in Oregon (Mail In) is the only way to get excluded from the Robocall and election surveys. Campaigns access the “ballot received” list and stop calling soon after I send my vote.

I will say this on behalf of the Parliamentary system, the party leader has to be in Parliament for debate, and question and answer period. Trudeau has flaunted those rules endlessly, and when he is there he will talk and say nothing at all, but you can challenge the party leader directly to his face. A Biden character cannot make it through daily debate, on camera, with the entire opposing party directly across the aisle demanding answers. You cannot hide mental disability or decline in Parliament. All that said, I hate living in Canada and I want to be an American, but my wife doesn’t want to move and the border is closed to the control group in our global gene therapy experiment.

Bill Whittle. You already banged away on your ‘typewriter’ many years ago to come up with,
The Plan .
Do you remember it Bill?
It was the pitch video you made just before you released the
We The People V 2.0
videos of Money, Socialism, Capitalism, Corporations and Government.
For newish members, these are a must watch. For you, your friends and your kids. It’s here, on this site, https://billwhittlecom.wpenginepowered.com/category/shows/wtp2/
and it was a collaboration between the citizen producers at Bill Whittle.com (that means us) and TPUSA.
All 5 of those videos are outstanding and in essence, would create the framework in my opinion of the new Republican message.
But, it was in the Pitch Video called “The Plan”, where you verbalized in work and photo, what I thought was the pinnacle moment of all of your videos. You showed an upset, angry protesting man in a photo behind you, and said to the effect ‘If we don’t have a plan to help this man lift himself out of poverty, then all of this is for nothing’. I’m paraphrasing from my memory because that video is simply not available anywhere, but the message was so profound it stuck in my brain since the moment I first heard those words.
If Republicans can’t repeat your 5 year old message, in lockstep and unified, then what the hell is this Republican party all about?
I have to say it. You wrote the message for them 5 years ago. Listening to you talk with Scott and Steve just now, I think that even You forgot that you have done the work for Kevin McCarthy.
My opinion, anyway. FWIW.

(repost from the shorter vid you released on same day)

The reason you could trust the election you saw counted Scott is that you could see it counted, it was a physical vote, and the electronic voting machines do not allow anyone to see the votes counted. I also was a vote scrutineer before and watch physical votes counted, and had to give my decision alongside representatives from the other parties on spoiled ballots. I have not trusted a single election since my area in Canada switched to electronic vote counters, because the machine just spits out a number, you need a paper ballot with poll workers counting ballots with Livestream cameras watching, and with party representatives in the room overseeing. Arizona and Georgia worked very hard to remove Republican poll watchers and workers from their election teams, and have also tried to ensure that poll watchers and scrutineers are kept 100 feet back in some counties, that’s insane and is the actions of an untrustworthy system.

Guys you forgot to mention that the one person, in Arizona, who is in charge of how the election is run, decides who gets authorized as poll watchers, and is responsible for the entire Arizona mess in 2020 and 2022 is Katie Hobbs. She is the Democrat running for governor in an election she ultimately oversaw, from her current position in government, she refused to recuse herself from an obvious conflict of interest. Why campaign if you yourself control who counts the votes and what voting laws you feel like enforcing? The Election in Arizona is fraudulent on its face., It takes Katie Hobbs and her election team this long to count because they need to know how many more electronic votes they need to spin up to ensure that Katie Hobbs wins.

I think Scott is starting with the true premise “All systems have security issues, and ways to cheat” and jumping to a false conclusion that “all systems are equally insecure”

Once again, yes, I enjoy this new format and watching the sparks fly. I think you’re all on point when it comes to explaining how the so-called “red wave” wasn’t much more than a tinkle in the wind — the Repubs do NOT have a message. Ronna McDaniel is a colossal failure and I can predict that McCarthy will be a failure if he’s elected as Speaker. McConnell needs to go — period. But yes, the standard bearer sending the message (that will never be Trump because of his ego) needs to keep that message on task and alive, even through all the individual politicians that wear the “Republican” badge. That’s a tough nut to crack because, without exception, all of those politicians have one priority above everything — get reelected. And they can’t do that without prancing in front of the cameras at every opportunity.

Kevin McCarthy can’t even work to clean up Bakersfield. Sure, old Kev can be counted on to dole out our bucks to build a freeway to nowhere (The Westside Parkway….literally downtown to 1/2 way to Interstate 5, dumps everyone in farmland), but try being a tourist passing through and stopping to get coffee and doughnuts….middle of the morning….this place is not something old Kev should be proud of. Dirty, Dangerous, Demoralizing. As if it were run by a Democrat.

I do like the new format ; ) However, Scott was frozen into a still after a few minutes. Not sure if that’s on my end or yours.
I live in CA, so I’m used to voting disappointment. I was automatically changed from in-person voting to mail-in, and even though I attempted to change it back, it didn’t work. I wait to drop off my ballot on ‘voting day’ so I’m not giving the dems any breathing room to cheat by allowing them to have any numbers ahead of time.
That said, I trust our old process much more. I also liked ‘completing the arrow’ as opposed to filling in a circle. If a system can be corrupted or data can be ‘lost’, and they have no back-up system to insure that votes counted can’t be lost, then I’m not for it. Banks and other businesses have it in their best interest to insure that their systems work. We all know the government doesn’t think like a business and when one party seeks power at any cost, well, you can fill in those blanks.
As far as waiting days for counts, I could have manually counted the votes in Maricopa County faster than their automated systems.

Scott keeps coming back to (paraphrasing) “We’ve always had allegations of fraud and cheating so, there’s nothing new here.”
However, in person, same day, paper ballots have a chain of custody, transparency and a “receipt”. It also provides a transparent means of addressing allegations of fraud. Yes, we also had mail-in absentee voting but, even then, an absentee ballot was much riskier than an in-person vote.
Making mail-in voting more wide spread causes the risk to be more systemic while, at the same time, removing the transparency, chain of custody and ability to audit any potential fraud. It invites fraud.
So, just because we’ve always had an imperfect system doesn’t give license to expand those imperfections. Just because people have always killed other people doesn’t mean we should make it systemic.

Bill, FWIW, I agree with you completely and have been preaching this to anyone who will listen, but I also appreciate Scott’s willingness to stand his ground. Voting should be inconvenient if for no other reason than it filters out the casual voters. Voting is a serious endeavor and should not just get lumped in with all of the things that cater to the individual; this isn’t Door-Dash.Except for demonstrable cases of hardship, every voter should be at their local polling station on election day casting their vote. It’s hard not to see that our nation is doomed if current electoral trends continue.
Lastly, you’re worth every penny of my subscription, even if I do just pop in at times of national calamity. 😉

The new format was worth waiting for, even when I was disappointed for a few days with no new stuff from you guys.
As for the voting issues, the US way of doing voting is a mess, voting machines are an absolute invitation to cheating and corruption and early voting should only be an absolute exception for people who cannot be present on the day of voting. So the way forward is to require a) Voter ID b) Paper ballots (X marks the spot) and c) manual counting. To ensure voting confidence and to minimize ballot harvesting and fraud. Until this is accomplished the US elections will always be rightfully be looked at suspiciously, no matter which way the election results turns out.

I have been looking forward to the new format all week. I didn’t think we were going to get any videos but then you go and do a complete data dump 😁😁

I’m sorry Scott but i respectfully 100% disaggree with you. No early voting. No en masse mail in ballots. NO electronic machines that are connected to the internet. Election DAY. In person. on paper and analogue counters.

Sorry you had technical glitches such as the video feed from Scott and Bill’s audio that was clipped at times and awful. Hoping that you’ll get the kinks worked out as we’ll get more of these spontaneous discussions moving forward.

I LOVE the screen formatting, however, in my humble opinion, just clipping segments from the long format to post as the Right Angle segments robs the members of one main advantage to being a paying member. It seems inflation has hit here as well, you know, paying for less. Please don’t get me wrong, I understand the main reason for membership is to support the show and to get conservative views out to the next generation, but I for one really liked being able to log on and watch the backstage episode knowing it was a tiny perk for my contribution to the effort. It just seems unjust.
Thank you for reading this.

That’s good insight, Shannon, and we love you and the rest of our Members. So, we’ll keep working on ways to make the site and content better for you, as well as for the folks your Membership dollars support who don’t get these ideas elsewhere.

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