Public disclosures about President Donald Trump’s condition and treatment for a COVID-19 infection raise questions about whether a powerful patient skews and overrides the best advice of physicians. How can the staff at Walter Reed Medical Center follow the science and their training when Trump is not only their commander in chief, but wants to doctor the news? Bill Whittle says the president’s handling of the personal health crisis shows he’s a manly man.
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My doctors and the support groups I’m in point out that medical care is a cooperative process between the doctor and the patient. For example, patients need to discuss quality of life issues with their doctors, and treatments are subject to modification if needed. Mere survival is insufficient.
Now granted, this is for cancer, but I suspect it applies to other conditions as well.
He’s a highwayman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFkcAH-m9W0
My greatest initial take from the first statement from the doctors, was how much those individuals seemed to LIKE the man whose healthcare they were responsible to manage. Juxtaposed with how much the press wished him ill, fanatically.
I wanted to slap every reporter asking questions. Not because they were asking, but because their agenda was SO obvious and it was not to aid the citizens of this nation.
Even as President, it irks me that the press believe they have a right to know the moment to moment events of the President’s stay and care. How dare they? For a citizen, we’d be screaming about privacy issues. I’m disgusted with our national media in this case.
As a health care worker. The way the press is reporting Covid all of the health care workers have died. Just coming in contact with positive Covid patient is a death sentence. I guess I have been dead at least 55 times. Probably more since tracing does not seem to be done inside the hospital I work at due to HIPPA requirements. I do not have authorization to look up past patients medical records to see if they tested positive. When President Trump spoke his words of encouragement about the Covid infection. Our Governor of Washington said, Do not believe the President. Our feckless Governor is a scared little man. To let something like a flu for most people to terrorize our populace is disgusting. This over hyping will make the front line providers careless. A lot of us right now are questioning the process and not getting sensible answers. We treat each patient as if they have the plague. I did not sign up for this. I miss hugs. I miss shaking veterans hands. I miss seeing the faces of brave men and women facing grave diseases with grace and dignity. What I and others like me are honored to see and be a small part of is utterly remarkable. I do not have the proper words to describe. This hysteria has to end.
Scott: Nice Master and Commander reference. I love that film – a real man’s man movie.
I love it too–read the whole series more than once. Great casting in the movie, very well done.
I am so impressed with the President. Someone has to counter the constant stream of utterly unbalanced fear. The Dems will be panicking over his recovery and strength, which tells the people – all of us – a lot which we really need to hear, and their media amanuenses will throw everything at him: recklessness, unnecessary displays of bravado, insulting those who have lost loved ones, etc. Trump leads from the front. And God bless the President for it.
“Amanuenses.” Not often that I have to look up a word. Well done.
I prefer the more vulgar form, toadies, because all I see are a bunch of croaking, poisonous amphibians.
The doctors explained, when pressed, that Trump did not want to receive oxygen, but they insisted. Dr. Conley explained in the first press briefing that Trump asked about hydroxychloroquine, but they did not give it to him. They implied that he wanted to go home earlier, but they kept him there.
I guess I suffer from that powerful-man syndrome too, because my doctor trusts me to direct my own treatment as long as he doesn’t see anything overtly dangerous, far more than President Trump’s doctors appear to have submitted to his wishes.
I want a doctor like yours.
I’m a lucky girl–I drive 100 miles to see him because he’s worth it. (This year got to have a televisit, but had to go to his office for bloodwork because without insurance it was too expensive to do it at a commercial lab.)
I have a doctor like that. At Kaiser, of all places.
He trusts me to have common senses, and lets me modify dosages of prescription meds, for example for my blood pressure, as long as I’m paying attention to the results.
After being diagnosed with cancer, I’ve turned a lot more decision making over to my medical team, but continue to pay attention in case I need to adjust things.
Doctors sometimes have agendas which do not necessarily align with the patient’s agenda.
It’s actually “only” 94.5% in the President’s age group. I still wasn’t worried. He has access to crack medical staff.
So there was a 5.5% chance, statistically. But if he doesn’t suffer from hypertension or diabetes, they that chance drops significantly from there. Plus the doctors, as mentioned.
But if you take out all those deaths in that age group that weren’t actually Covid related at all but just labeled a Covid death so the hospital would get Gov’t money the survival rate is probably much higher than that 94.5%.
And let’s not forget that a lot of those deaths were caused by gov.’s and mayors forcing Covid patients into nursing homes.
On the secret service agents it would be presumed that secret service agents would be near him anyway, trip or no.
Dr. Conley stated during a press briefing that the agents in the vehicle were the same ones who have been with the President since he tested positive. There was zero additional risk at their being in a vehicle with him than they had at the White House, aboard Marine One or the motorcade to Walter Reed, or in the room or suite with the President while he was at Walter Reed. I would argue that their wearing masks (including the President) during that drive (or travelling to or from the White House) was superfluous.
I sincerely hope that the people around the President who have been exposed, whether or not they tested positive, stop wearing masks as soon as the two-week period has passed. Period. It’s time to demonstrate that this disease has an end point that does not always include death.
If I was President Trump’s doctor I’d be very concerned about a James Garfield disaster.
Even with the insanely thorough Secret Service protection, he probably has a greater risk of that than dying from COVID.
Another good point that was made about that little motorcade by Grant Stinchfield, I believe: it demonstrates to other world leaders that our President is not incapacitated and still in charge of the country, and they’d better not use the situation to try anything. I think it was a great move. Here’s hoping for a speedy recovery!
(And Scott, keep doing what you’re doing!)
It’s been my experience in life that doctors listen to my input and act accordingly. A doctor patient relationship is either symbiotic or its dysfunctional and unworthy of pursuit. I don’t believe wealth and power are a prerequisite to getting what you want from a physician.
Thanks to the last debate, I have drawn the conclusion that Scott Ott is a Chris Wallace wannabe or disciple; either way, he’s hard to swallow.
You do know the BWN episodes have Scott ‘Playing a Role’ right?
I agree Scott plays the part too well, and I also have a hard time accepting his “leftist attack dog” persona. However, it’s all part of the show to force viewers to hear potential counter arguments to such nasty tactics.
Well that’s his role in the show. Literally to play the part of the Chris Wallaces of the world.
And he does a damn good job! Actually, his points are much more considered, intelligent, and well stated than Chris Wallace or any of those lefty goons!
The only way to look at the statements or medical condition of the President has serious National Security implications and any statement could be used by our enemies. A candidate has no such implications.
I agree completely. I remember when Reagan was shot by John Hinckley on live TV … My first thought was “for the next few minutes the United States is vulnerable to foreign attack right now” and then when Alexander Haig claimed “as of right now I’m in control” my concerns broadened from an opportunistic nuclear attack to a coup.
As it turned out, everything came out fine in the end because Haig was just talking out his posterior. It’s unlikely that our most lethal enemies could even come to a decision in the time between the airing of the assassination attempt and when actual continuity of government, with the capacity to launch strategic weapons, was established.
My point is that you are very correct, this kind of compromise to the Commander in Chief can have grave implications for us all. It’s best not to let actionable details be aired publicly for that and other reasons.
Scott you and the insane left of left are presuming that Trump was the source of the infection. Neither you nor anyone else knows that for a fact. Any one or none of those of his staff who tested positive could have been the source.
Stop projecting that you know what no one can possibly know!
Since not one Dem seems to have recently contracted the virus, it could be that our POTUS was targeted. Just one of those toxic arrows in Nancy’s quiver? That’s what I think.
If too many of us start questioning how the president got it, they’ll have to make sure some Dems will be sacrificed on the covid altar. Oh to be a fly on the wall in the dark room where the Democrat victims are being chosen.Oh, the wailing and gnashing of teeth!! Oh, the pandemonium! Oh the begging and sniveling! Imagine.
Just reading the words “Nancy’s quiver” makes me shudder.
It’s Scott’s role to play devil’s advocate. His job, in this show, is literally to play the part of the insane left so that we can hear Bill’s defense. Bill says his peace … then, in your head it should be understood that you need to preface everything Scott says with “Yeah, but the insane left is going to come back with THIS”.
This should help the viewer prepare for arguing with idiots in real life, by the water cooler, or in the living room, or golf course, or wherever.
Complete aside, but I was hoping that while I was gone that the Like & Share buttons would return. I take it they don’t fit in with the current version?
They were slowing down the site even worse than the current lethargic speed, Bob. We’re always looking for ways to improve and accelerate, in between my two full-time jobs. I’ll keep hunting.
I figured there was a good reason – your efforts are always appreciated, Scott!
Oddly enough, the speed test shows the site is flying, and occasionally it does for me, but more often than not it’s a relatively slow load. I have reached out, again, to our webhost in search of solutions.
If I may, Scott, I have high speed internet. This site is the only site that loads so slowly that occasionally it gives me an error site. It is and has from day one been very slow…But more than worth the wait.
I’m, again, working with our webhost to determine the cause of this. Thanks for the feedback, D.
My apologies if that came across wrong. Great site. Worth the wait.
I always presumed that this site loads slower due to the videos being hosted here and not linked to YT, as other sites do. Perhaps that is incorrect on my part. But, as to the slow loading, good things come to those who wait.
On average on my phone, I don’t find the site loading slower than others, whether I’m on high-speed wifi or using 4G mobile data. Same goes for my computer, which is on gigabit cable/ethernet. That’s not to say it’s fast, more like everydamnthing is too slow.
There was a day when web designers (of which I have been one) cared about site load time but that day is long past. There’s a law of computer science that says that data will expand to fill all available disk space no matter how much space there is. The same goes for bandwidth.
This “web designer” still cares, but unraveling the yarn ball of potential issues, remains a challenge.
It’s not you, it’s your provider. Most likely there’s nothing substantial you can do about it.
Thanks, Michael. If we need to, and can afford to, we’ll switch plans or providers until we get it right.
If I understand it correctly, the holdup is in the redirect. (Like we saw with the antifa website redirecting to the Biden campaign site.) I used to know a lot about this stuff, but now have no advice to offer.
A woman must know her limitations…as well as the limitations of a man. This is twice as much work as I face.
Scott. You play the part of the totally demented left of left better than the demented left of left. Please tone it down a bit.
As it is, you make be want to cancel my membership in the blog. I get more than enough of the demented left of left from every other source. It is beyond any reasonable toleration!
that’s the whole point, Lionel- Scott doing the deranged left better than they themselves- because that’s what intelligent, thoughtful commentators like Bill face every day.
You don’t go into battle unless you try and prepare, best as you can, to meet the enemy at their most dangerous, destructive worst. In this case, it allows Bill & others to express a clearer, better, much more convincing alternative viewpoint than the left. This is best done painting as stark a contrast as possible.
I ask you this- would Bill collaborate with others who undermined his message? I think he’s kinda smarter than that. And if you think this vid accurately represents Scott’s POV, then I say most likely Scott would be working elsewhere denouncing the likes of Bill and trying to shut him up like the rest of the left is trying to do to their principled opposition
you can do what you want, Lionel, you’re a great member here, but I say Bill & Co. know what they are doing. And if you or anyone else has constructive criticism I’m sure they will give it just consideration.
Scott versus Bill makes for a good debate because I believe that Scott does not favor President Trump. I have mostly accepted that because we can then see two sides of the issue. This type of activity seems to be in very short supply. Even when it riles me, I see the benefit of hearing Bill’s come back. Almost always well worth it!!
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It’s gotten to the point where I don’t think you CAN get out in front of the demented left. Just when I think they can’t take it any farther, they prove me wrong.
I have a different perspective. I adore Bill. (Completely appropriately.) But I do NOT enjoy his “losing his cool” when confronted with what he may see as attacks. I expect better of him. If Scott’s verbal parrying improves Bill’s ability to maintain his cool as he dismantles the leftist arguments that Scott so reliably presents – which I suspect may be one of the reasons BWN exists – then Scott has my undying respect and admiration.
I see the left’s error as far more fundamental than the surface Scott projects so well. They are at war with reality. However, that war is at a subtle metaphysical and epistemological level. It is so subtle the right just does not “get it” or think it “not important”.
Not the least of which are:
Basically: for them reality does not exist and truth cannot be known. Only the collective knows and only the collective has rights to act. They see themselves as masters of the collective so they are the source of collective truths. Their opponents are evil simply because they do not agree with the collective and therefor must be destroyed.
This does not work, never has worked, and never will work because it is in total contradiction with reality. The only outcome is destruction. This is OK by them because THAT is and was their goal all along: total and complete destruction of everything than make human civilization possible.
As such, it cannot fought with superficial argumentation no matter how correct. They ignore correctness and repeat their original error. To win, it requires a fundamental philosophical reconstruction of contact with realty. Otherwise, we lose everything. It is irrelevant that they lose too because by losing everything, they get what they desire: earth as devoid of life as mars.
Yours is a fine collection of talking points about what the Left represents and promotes; however, it is devoid of any solutions. Are you proposing that reason is irrelevant when arguing against the policies and edicts of the Leftists? If so, then you seem to be proposing that we, who rely on reason, abandon it for more base forms of warfare to combat their evils. This will ultimately devolve to total anarchy, which, as you succinctly stated, “does not work, never has worked, and never will work because it is in total contradiction with reality” within any civilized society.
Please propose your solutions that do not require the total destruction of society.
It is important to get to the core of the issue. If you stay on the surface, there will be no progress. Your superficial “reasons” will be ignored as if they were never said. THIS is one of the left of left’s core principles: that which is not recognized does not exist.
Exposing the core errors with clarity and completeness IS the solution. Unless and until the right or center addresses these issues, their arguments are weak to non existent.
Reality matters and if it is not dealt with, it will deal with you!
Someone said that if you can’t stand the heat then get out of the kitchen. I’m here to see Bill “bring the heat”–we have enough calm liars to fill the ocean. Bring it, Bill, and thank you very much!
I’m worried about Trump because I don’t believe that he contracted this disease in the normal way, from exposure to an infected individual. I am convinced that he had a massive exposure by design. Therefore, he has a much more difficult road to recovery.
Canoodling with a dozen urine soaked prostitutes in the Oval Office?
That’s not as much fun as you might think.
Has he ever had that many Democrats in the Oval Office at the same time?
It’s crossed my mind.