A couple of weeks ago, in response to a post here, I wrote a comment about how the state legislatures couldn’t really save this election because each state has passed its own election laws under the authority in the Constitution to the legislatures, and (to the best of my knowledge) no state’s legislature reserved to itself the power to ignore the outcome of a popular election and appoint the Electors themselves. I argued that because these state laws exist, and because most of these states have Democrat governors who would refuse to sign any legislation altering the status quo, there wasn’t anything the legislatures could do.
I’m a Constitutional textualist and originalist. Clarence Thomas is my favorite Supreme Court Justice ever. But Trump’s legal team has articulated a textualist position that surprised me.
They are arguing that the state legislatures have the authority under the Constitution to “take back” their power and that they do not have to follow the usual lawmaking process (bill in both houses, compromise committee, vote, sign by governor) in exercising their power to appoint Electors under the Constitution. They are arguing that the process laid out in the Constitution reserving power to the state legislatures alone (no mention of governor’s assent) was meant to be a check against election corruption.
Well, that’s a nice argument as far as it goes. The kind of thing you might spend a few minutes discussing in ConLaw 101.
I watched a few excerpts from the Republican legislative hearing in Gettysburg last week. I didn’t listen to the whole thing. What I listened to made me feel a little better, but I didn’t suppose much would actually happen as a result of it. And since I didn’t listen to all of it, I missed the bigger picture: this was an evidentiary hearing, which has not yet happened in the courts. They presented evidence both from fact witnesses (people who observed corruption), and also from experts about the mathematical and statistical impossibilities.
Well, guess what. The Pennsylvania Legislature is acting on it. They have submitted a joint resolution from both houses declaring the election irreparably compromised, the results fraudulent, and the certifications invalid, and claiming their Constitutional power and authority to choose their state’s Electors.
Funny, no one in the media is talking about it. I came across it on the President’s youtube channel. They posted two interviews with Jenna Ellis and one with a Pennsylvania State Senator, Doug Mastriano (also a couple with Giuliani, though I haven’t watched those yet). The interviews were from Newsmax and OAN. They explained the strategy and action.
Ellis pointed out that all of their efforts in the courts have been to get the courts to instruct the state legislatures to do their duty under the Constitution. But this strategy bypasses the courts altogether. The legislatures can act on their own.
But who ever would have thought that the individual legislators would have the guts to actually do it?
The President’s legal team is following the same strategy in Arizona, with a hearing scheduled on Monday. They hope that the Arizona Legislature will then also take back their power to appoint Electors.
I hope that they are moving forward with this strategy in the other swing states, though it appears that so far they are prioritizing the states that Sidney Powell is not suing. (I haven’t done an Electoral College count to see how many Electors are needed to either deny Biden 270, or to give Trump an outright win, and which combinations of states need to be flipped or invalidated to get there.)
No doubt the other side will challenge the state legislatures in court after they act. But that’s a topic for another post. Also I’m wondering what stunts Pelosi might pull if the election is thrown into the U.S. House.
Anyway, the point of this long post is simply to say, Wow, how quaint, people actually reading and following the Constitution! No, not how quaint—how radical!
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Check out this site: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YH03jBS9NQ
Thanks for that! I’d heard his name but never seen him. I’ve added a link to his youtube channel videos to my bookmarks. (<— nifty device that circumvents big tech shadow banning.)
I use bookmarks too. I also use DuckDuckGo for my search engine. Here’s the link: https://duckduckgo.com/ ‘Privacy simplified’ is their logo. I wonder where Bill and the gang are? No posts yesterday or today.
Maybe they are finishing that last bowl of Turkey Matzoh Ball Soup?
That can be worth delaying a video or two.
Hopefully I have not spoken Blasphemy.
Actually, I am hoping Scott’s store got swamped over the weekend and he is too tired from earning too much commission.
Yup, I’ve used DuckDuckGo for years, except in the few instances where Google does a better job (depends a lot on what you are looking for). Also archive.org rather than Google Books, and so forth. I occasionally try Bing these days since someone around here reported that they have perhaps a bit less left-leaning bias on news, and different data. DDG often shows results that look very much like Google’s, suggesting that they’re using the same databases and/or algorhythms. (Remember Dogpile? Those were the days!)
Also I use Vivaldi as my browser.
One more note, the DDG browser extension breaks my bank’s website, probably because they use a third party system. So I have to turn off the DDG extension to use my bank. How’s that for backwards?
That’s very weird! Thanks for the info.
“Wow, how quaint, people actually reading and following the Constitution! No, not how quaint—how radical!”
Well, being radical was the whole point of the Constitution, after all.
An interesting piece, https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/examining_the_code_internet_geeks_conclude_trumps_win_was_yuuuge.html
Excellent, thanks!
Thank you; I really enjoyed reading that. I watched the whole PA legislative hearing. The statistical and mathematical proof is so convincing that it is clear to me that massive fraud was perpetrated. That probably means that judges and justices will reach the opposite conclusion against the preponderance of the evidence.
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it.
The problem now is the “institutionalist” mindset, which has so poisoned Chief Justice Roberts’s jurisprudence, but which exists throughout the entire judiciary and the bureacracy/swamp in general. It’s what led to Nixon conceding to Kennedy, “for the good of the country.” (Aside from pure partisanship, it’s what led the Pennsylvania Supreme Court to rule in one case that the allegations of problems with the voting machines were brought “too late,” as if there is no remedy for the problem after an election, as if letting the fraudulent results stand and destroying the faith of the voters in our “electoral process” is somehow less damaging to it than invalidating the election.)
But now we have someone who is not afraid of a so-called “constitutional crisis” because he understands that the Constitution is strong enough to withstand such a crisis, indeed was designed to provide contingencies for exactly this circumstance. In political and legal thought, precedent carries enormous weight, as does its corollary of avoiding anything that’s never been done before. The primary reason the swamp hates Trump, after all, is that “things don’t work like that/that’s not how we do things.” And he’s shown them to be fools because he’s willing to try something else to solve a problem.
That published declaration was made in 1999. I wonder what Ms. Wolfe would say about the current affairs of government.
You make excellent points, thank you. I saw the interviews on newsmax, by accident; I just happened to tune in. Doug Mastriano was impressive, I thought.
My mind is so muddled from hearing different scenarios and theories that I’ve hit sensory overload and have just turned numb. I’m just hoping saner minds have got this under control so the best case will occur. If not, I’m seeing America in the same predicament that France was under the Nazis. I’m not a defeatist, but am very concerned with our future. I am not prepared to go to war, but will do my part anyway.