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3-in-4 Americans Will Wear Face Mask and Social Distance After Pandemic Ends

A UPI report says 3-in-4 Americans plan to wear a face mask and social distance even after the COVID-19 pandemic ends. Is that what you plan to do?

3 in 4 Americans Will Wear Face Mask and Social Distance After Pandemic Ends

A UPI report says 3-in-4 Americans plan to wear a face mask and social distance even after the COVID-19 pandemic ends. Is that what you plan to do?

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As a former infection prevention nurse, I wear a mask ONLY because if I don’t; the State will punish the establishments that I frequent. The masks being worn are, for the VERY most part, completely ineffective. Don’t believe me; look at the relevant specifications of masks.

Anecdotal evidence alert:
I am now up to approximately 40 people within my sphere who have contracted Covid-19. ALL OF THEM were borderline maniacal about wearing masks and staying 6 feet or more away from people. And yet, they still came down with it. We have lost two people at church, both of whom had underlying conditions. One of whom retired to stay home because he knew he was at risk. Never left home without a mask, still contracted it.
My conclusion from this small sample is that masks don’t work and gave people a false sense of security.

Washing your hands often is a good thing under any circumstances.
For myself, I’ll be a little obsessive about germophobia, but that’s because I’m in special circumstances: My mother-in-law lives with my wife and me. She’s 82 with kidney and respiratory problems. So if my wife or I get COVID, it’s an annoyance, maybe a major hassle. If mom gets it, she dies.
Other than that… well, I’m a truck driver, my “social distancing” has nothing to do with being health conscious, it’s just the circumstances of my job. My “social distancing” is measured in yards, not in feet.
Masks? Masks are BS. I stand by what I said below. Yes, we ought to wear masks… clown masks from the “Joker” movie, specifically to flip the bird at the phobia.
The markers on the floor? Yeah, I’ve seen the little X’s on the floor, marking where people should stand. Dunno about you folks, but I’ve seen too many Roadrunner cartoons to fall for that one.

There is no way 75% of people will continue to wear masks etc, In my area only 75% do it now, so, even though I thought I be dead by the time this country has hit the pure stupidity of being politically correct, I bet my life that there is no way 75% of the people do this.

There’s some wisdom in the Japanese method of wearing a mask when you know that you’re sick with a cold or the flu, so it might be a good idea to adopt that here in the US as well. Right now we’re in exceptional times because we have a disease that can spread asymptomatically, so we might wear masks now because of that, but once that disease stops spreading, we should only wear it when we’re sick. Hand washing? Probably a good idea to keep up. Not shaking hands with people when there’s people from all over the country there? Might be a good idea.
Similarly, if you’ve moved away from a city to the country to avoid people, there’s really no point to moving back to the city if you can get your job done where you are. That kind of social distancing I think is fine.
Staying 6 feet away in lines at stores? Eh, maybe we should make it 2-3 feet since I hate people being too close to me even in normal times. If someone’s less than 2 feet away from me I’d try to move away from them regardless.

This sort of protectionism is the road to weak immune systems, making us all – not just the feeble – more susceptible to catastrophic virus attack. The real answer is to build up the immune system by eating better, keeping healthy and engaging in physical contact with others to maintain exposure to viruses as they evolve. This helps keep our immune system tuned up for fighting the latest viruses, just like we do with computer operating systems.

My family believes this also. My dad wassup healthy as a horse until smoking finally brought him COPD.
After 21 years in the service and rarely seeing a doctor, I left the yearly flu and other immunizations behind. I didn’t catch the flu until I was on the downside of COVID.
Absolutely, eat well, exercise, wash hands, etc. for a healthy immune system! That is our body’s line of defense defense.

There is no actual proof of asymptomatic spread; that has been assumed from the start and is the reason why we’re all supposed to be running around in masks and spraying Lysol on every surface we touch. The only RCT done on asymptomatic spread showed there was NONE. Yes, I know, it was from China so that needs to be taken into account, but why has no such study been undertaken in the US? My guess is, because TPTB don’t want a scientifically established answer, since they know it will probably disprove the foundation for their exercise of control over the population. Also a study done with U.S. Marine recruits at Parris Island failed to establish any utility to wearing masks.
The ONLY WAY to bring a virus under any semblance of control (and there is no such thing as total control outside of a lab) is to achieve herd immunity. PERIOD. That is Virology 101.

Respiratory viruses and bacteria spread via the symptoms of coughing and sneezing. If you have no symptoms then you are not coughing or sneezing infectious agents. Maybe you are licking doorknobs and keyboards and table tops, but you are not spewing virus or bacteria into the air and onto surfaces. Because symptomatic others might be, reasonable hygiene, like washing your hands and wiping down communal surfaces and tools should suffice.

There will never be a time when there are no communicable diseases. We have immune systems to deal with them. If masks were the more effective method then evolution would have given us coverings over our faces.

 “A city-wide prevalence study of almost 10 million people in Wuhan found no evidence of asymptomatic transmission.” from theBMJ. Dec 2020.
We have yet to replicate this study in the US, or at least it hasn’t been reported if it has been done.

Masks do not work, there is a reason back in March everyone said masks don’t work. It wasn’t the first time people had thought of wearing masks and research was done on their effectiveness in non-politicized environments and the results showed masks didn’t work. All of a sudden politicians got involved and they now have different results, that’s not science, thats politics. I have read some of the research papers too. The data of the one actually showed cloth masks are worse than no mask (basically aerosolizes it), then they listed reasons they didn’t test that could make it even worse (not a brand new mask, etc.), and then their conclusion was that you should still wear a cloth mask because all that research wasn’t performed. So the media can take that study and say “scientists say wear masks, they work”. If that paper didn’t list that in the conclusion, there is 0% chance they would have gotten published, because politics. Also looking at the methods used, they are very bad. They simulate a person talking directly into someones mouth who’s like a couple feet away. The gap on the side of the mask could spray droplets to the side which they don’t measure. They also don’t have the equipment to accurately measure the smallest of droplets (which are still bigger than Covid) so the finer the mask, the more it could just be aerosolizing it and their machines aren’t measuring it. Then there is the fact that masks have real side effects. Decreased oxygen and constantly inhaling your CO2 is certainly not good for your health and proper oxygen levels are very important for keeping your immune system healthy so you don’t get a severe reaction if you were to get sick. There are plenty of other side effects to masks and no benefits.

If masks worked so well then I also wouldn’t be a jerk for not wearing one because you wearing one would protect yourself from me. Also even if masks worked only one way and are only good for protecting others, they would still be useless because I can’t spread Covid to someone if I’m not sick. Healthy people wearing masks to stop them from spreading a virus they don’t have to others is one of the stupidest things I’ve heard.

I don’t wear masks places except where I absolutely have to (work/campus). I have been kicked out of places because of it and I no longer shop at those stores. If they don’t respect me as a customer and my decisions and my health (which is threatened by wearing a mask) then they don’t deserve my money. More people need to stand up and stop wearing masks, that is the only way this will stop. These democrat politicians will not just give up all this control they have over us easily.

“If masks worked so well then I also wouldn’t be a jerk for not wearing one because you wearing one would protect yourself from me.”

Logic tells us that if the offending agent can be trapped on the inside of a substrate, it can be as effectively prevented entry from the outside.

“Healthy people wearing masks to stop them from spreading a virus they don’t have to others is one of the stupidest things I’ve heard.”
Amen!

“Strutting” around a store without a mask is being a jerk? How quickly people like Scott toe the line dictated by so-called experts. The truth is that few people would know or think about Covid if it weren’t constantly in the news.

The masks most people wear are ineffective in preventing the passing of viruses. I believe that to be true.
Given the opportunity to not wear a mask I’ll not do so.
The ONLY reason I wear a mask is to prevent the jer_ks in our world from getting in my face and telling me how horrible I am. When they begin to approach I pull my gaiter up from around my neck and avoid the confrontation. Once I round the corner, down it goes again until I come face to face with another jer_k.
Each and every time I employ this tactic, I once again thank God that I am old and won’t have to put up with the stupidity that has overtaken our, formerly free and brave, Republic for much longer.

Something to remember is that masks might only prevent the spread of you first have the virus. Otherwise one is just clearing to our elected overlords.

Although I know that God only knows when we are able to see him in heaven, I would say that your comment about not being in this world much longer, would give God the will to have you live to be 120 years old so just maybe you will see the stupidity end and we get our republic back.

Maybe the 75 percent say that they’ll wear the masks, but to me it’s kinda like New Year’s Resolutions. How many will you see in the gym in February? (As an aside, I’ll see none ’cause I don’t go to the gym. Also don’t make New Year’s Resolutions.)

I have not heard any discussion about the long term physical effects of mask wearing or the dangers of masks and physical separation weakening the human immune system over time.

Well last year I had seen some Doctors talking about the long-term effects and even short term affects and saying masks are worse than any potential benefit for Covid (which is none, masks don’t work). The tech and media overlords make sure these doctors never get a voice though so there isn’t much discussion about it. In their eyes it would be anti-science to bring up a question like that even though science is all about asking questions.

Like a muscle that atrophy when not used, many of these vacvines have weakened our responses. That is a long term effect.

The vaccines actually train and boost the immune system. And rely on it in order to work. What makes it go idling and misfiring is the much “cleaner” environment and the abundance of strange new chemicals in the environment.

To mask or not to mask, that is the question. Do I want to shop at Costco? Then I mask.
Can I be “socially distant” outside? Yes, then I do not mask.
Have I been “masked shamed” because I was not wearing a mask outside? Yes. Did I still wish the shamer a nice day? Yes.
Has a mom with young children walking in a park shield her children from me with her body as I passed by because I was not wearing a mask? Yes.
Do I find myself singing and humming in stores while I’m wearing a mask? You bet!
Does my mask have whatever message I want to promote on it that everyone will have to read because they need to try to figure out what the heck I’m saying while I wear one? Yes.
Have I stopped licking faces and doorknobs since COVID-19? Yes. Am I in a 12 step program to help me stay on track to not lick faces and doorknobs? Yes (wink). Actually not licking faces is easier than not licking doorknobs. (smile)
Will I resume licking faces and doorknobs after the pandemic ends? Hmm…I’ll let you know. (smile)
Have I on occasion started to bleat like a sheep when I’m outside looking for the sheeple who wear masks outside when no one is around? Yes. Have I had people respond to my bleating with bleating and then proudly admit that they are sheeple? Yes.
Do I refuse to give away my interior freedom during this time of fear/confusion/division/insanity/illogical atmosphere? Most definitely.
Will I continue to mask after our government lifts the requirement? NO WAY!!!!!

About licking faces & doorknobs:

The mask and social distancing rules have been especially harsh for my people because it is our custom, when greeting one another, to lick each other’s eyeballs.

When oh when will diversity include us?!?!?!

Call me a jerk then, Scott. I don’t wear a useless mask unless absolutely forced to. They have no useful effect, but can have deleterious effects. And if they do work at all, you wearing one should protect you from non-infected me, right? Nope, there’s no logical reason at all for me to be sheep-like and follow nonsensical diktats about silly mask-wearing.

Agree. One should take one’s own protection, not ask everyone else to protect me. If N95 masks aren’t protecting you and you are concerned, get yourself a mask that will protect you.

I’m one of Scott’s “jerks”. I don’t wear a mask, because my assessment is that the impact on us as social creatures brought about by masks, and their terrible dehumanising implications, far outweigh the risks of the virus. Neither would I accept a universal speed limit of 5mph in order to save every life lost on the roads. We have to live with risk in order to be anything like fully human. I’m with Bill on this 100%.

They tried to control us through “climate change,” but it didn’t work. And I quote…”We will be forced to sacrifice democracy by the laws that will protect us from further pollution.”

https://youtu.be/hjcdMU2itv8?t=708

At the time, “climate change” was a “national security threat.” Hmmm…. Kinda like the “domestic terrorists” who mounted an “insurrection” on January 6th.

Anyone else seeing a pattern here?

Turns out, wearing a mask elevates my pulse and normally low blood pressure to such a point that it hospitalized me (for the first time in over 5 decades). Little did I know minimizing my use of a face covering to the greatest extent possible thereafter was “making a political statement.” Before watching this, all I thought it did was save me from shelling out another $8,000. With the end of the pandemic, not only do I pray we see the end of muffled conversation and neighbors crossing to the other side of the street, but most of all, the self-righteous judginess that elevates intolerance to virtue.

Exactly. Hypoxia – low blood oxygen levels – is a direct, proven result of mask wearing. As for “political statements”, they are made by those who enforce pointless and harmful practices on others as an exercise in crude power.

I sure wish they were only statements; what you describe are tyrannical political actions. But about political statements, the outrage that someone would dare make a dissenting political statement in our land of the free. Now that I’ve pondered it, I never fully grasped the meaning of the term cognitive dissonance as well as I do right now.

This isn’t about a freaking virus. People need to wake up. These “moralistic” globalists and the virtue signalers are just the useful idiots as described by Lenin. The communists will get rid of the socialists and the Muslims (addressed in part two) in the end. It’s shocking, disturbing and frightening how much they’ve already accomplished…

Agenda 1: Grinding America Down
https://youtu.be/jw8s-_kVGXw
*** takes you through the whole history from the Frankfurt School linking to Obama and today’s Democrats

Agenda 2: Masters of Deceit
https://youtu.be/YtfWlp_aprE

PURGING CONSERVATIVES: The New Red Scare | Glenn TV | Ep 86
https://youtu.be/stEsnOJDm6w

One thing I could care less about in the Agenda vids is the homosexuality other than it’s been used as a weapon against the family. Whatever someone does in their bedroom is their private business and between them and God, and I wish people would stop discussing it. It has nothing to do with how I view someone’s character defined as actions toward others, and I harbor no ill will toward those who practice it nor do I think less of them. We are all sinners.

Anyone concerned about contracting the Kung flu can wear a mask. If it prevents me from exhaling it, it prevents them from inhaling it. There is no need for me to wear a mask. End of story. It is not incumbent upon me to protect other people who can protect themselves.

I’m not sneezing on anyone. I’m not breathing in their face. Droplets do not aerosolize like those from the highly contagious measles virus, and the larger microdroplets do not “hang in the air” for extended periods except in the most poorly ventilated, closed room conditions.

Open a window. Get some fans running. Hire someone to walk around the store/restaurant/business waving a stiff piece of cardboard to circulate the air for all I care. But for all that is good and holy enough with this mask mandate lockdown b.s.

Viruses compete with each other and can ‘crowd out’ other viruses. One virus dominating the biome for a while is not unusual. It has nothing to do with masks.

This article from Stanford, Harvard and Oxford epidemiologists from months ago saying we should be shooting for herd immunity is kinda what did it for me when it came to the whole lockdown, mask-wearing b.s.
“Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.”

https://unherd.com/2020/10/covid-experts-there-is-another-way/

Apparently, the left’s affinity for science ends when it doesn’t fit their agenda. In other words, they’re full of sh/t.

Not only that, but locking down everyone including the healthy actually makes it more dangerous for the vulnerable in the longer term, because when the lockdown ends the whole society has a lower level of immunity. Better for the vulnerable to reconnect with a society which has a high level of immunity!

I viewed this episode earlier today and refrained from commenting to give myself time to make a reasoned and polite comment. I was unhappy that Scott indulged in name-calling of people who don’t wear masks. I thought that he surely understood that masks do not stop viruses because viruses are too small to be captured by the mask material. Masks only work to capture liquid droplets. Scott’s entire argument for wearing a mask was predicated on the concept that masks work to prevent infection of viruses.
For the same reason that I do not wear tinfoil hats to stop aliens from reading my mind, I don’t wear a mask unless under duress (doctor’s office won’t let you in unless wearing a mask and my doctor admitted it is for optics). Both tinfoil hats and masks do not serve their intended purpose. Check the label on a box of masks some time if you don’t believe me. Or the website of a manufacturer of masks for various industrial purposes.
If I can’t count on the crew at Bill Whittle.com to get their facts right, then why would I listen to you? I will wait a few days to see if this topic gets revisited. I see other members have objected to being name called as well.

I’m with you on this one. I was put off by the guys on the right and left of Bill. These masks are completely not for what we’ve been told they are. When I go out I’m pretty much the only one not wearing one. I hope me not caving to peer pressure will help other people around me grow a pair.

Depressing how easily we were “CONDITIONED” to wear this ‘useless rag about our noses’ NOW, let’s see some COURAGE to return to NORMAL SOCIALIZING. Are we so afraid of death, we refuse to LIVE?!! Down with Masks!

Ooo, I like that, “Are we so afraid of death, we refuse to live?” Is that an original or did you hear that somewhere?

I confess…I picked that up from my wandering through this intellectual wasteland we call America…

We’re all starving, looking for food and water. Its awesome these guys created this platform for us all to share a bit of knowledge.

I a, not arguing for this as a conspiracy, but more as a benefit for the leftist anti-Americans and most Democrats.All of this stuff is weakening the societal immunity; thereby making Americans more vulnerable to the next death-on-a-stick pandemic real or imagined. One these leftist see this they will pour gas on this fire every chance they get. Sorry to say Scott but my wife and I are both some of those A-holes that you speak of, We fight this every chance we can.

I think you are correct regarding the “insiders” using our response to this pandemic to divide and conquer us. The ease with which so many have done as they’re told, ignoring – surely they are ignoring – the proof around them that the hysteria provoked by the media and anti-Americans, but I repeat myself, is a lie. The insiders have seen that people will believe anything as long as “authorities and experts” tell them it’s so. But some won’t. Frankly, I don’t believe any of the statistics and I’m none too confident that the vaccine is anything but a prop in this farce we’re enduring. I am not going to be vaccinated for something that isn’t going to kill me, and because my lifestyle is fairly hermitic I’m not going to be endangering anyone. I have enough brains and consideration of my fellows to avoid them if I am sick, so no one need worry themselves about me. Asymptomatic spread? Pshaw!

In the meantime wearing masks keep our immune systems from doing their job, and our children deprived of developing strong immune systems, thereby growing into weak and susceptible adults who will succumb to just about anything. Even our amazing immune systems can become useless. Truly, use it or lose it is applicable here.

“Give me liberty or give me death!” is a sentiment only brave people can enjoy.
Attributing evil intent, nefarious intent, ulterior motive to those that do not wear a mask sounds very left wing. No, it IS the tactic of the left…Hard left. Hard stop.
How long before some people on the right tell those that refuse to wear a mask that they are disproportionally affecting minorities, or that they are killing Mother Earth?
“Political statement”, “Jerk quotient” Scott? Perhaps introspection could be applied on your side of the equation, as well. As much as I respect and have respected your words, that sounded like Obama’s “acted stupidly” comment. I am disappointed.
I sympathize with Bill. We are not in a free country. We just are not. I am not okay with that. Maybe I’m in the Jerk quotient but the ineffective nature of masks, the escalating numbers despite masks, the political nonsense, the clear double standards make that mask nothing more than a flag of surrender. I despise it and every vile little hall monitor that screeches at the sight of a human face without a useless rag bound around his or her breathing apparatus.

I think both Steve and Scott have this one wrong. Do we honestly believe that flu cases can be counted in the 100’s? I saw an interview with a lab scientist (whom I’m sure has been removed by our social media overlords) and he was commenting that several flu strains and cold strains are COVID viruses. He then went on to say he was able to trip a COVID-19 test with a sample that also tripped a flu test.
So, how many “COVID” cases would have previously been flu cases? Also, we can say that there are 500,000 extra deaths, are there really though? What are the numbers looking like for heart failure, diabetes related deaths, obesity deaths, etc. From what I’ve seen, if you look at total deaths in the US last year over year, from ALL total sources, 2020 is not that far off.
Also, why should we take masks seriously when the people telling us this is serous don’t take masks seriously. Newsom not wearing one at dinner (and just going to dinner), Tony F telling us don’t wear one, then wear one, then wear two, then don’t wear two, then wear two. Really? Why would we listen to these people?
Am I the only one who thinks this is part of an effort for control, to see what they can get the American people to do, and to dehumanize people? To see someone’s face is to recognize they’re a person, and to see their facial expression is what connects us. Does not the term “Divide and conquer” mean anything. We’re being divided. And we’re being conquered.
Since when have Americans been afraid of each other? This isn’t the country I grew up in or love. I live in TN, and haven’t been wearing a mask for a couple months now, even though it is “required” and “recommended”. I intend to show other people that don’t want to wear one that they’re not alone. I intend to connect with people, to show them they’re not alone. I’m young and healthy, I’m not afraid of a virus (that I’ve already had, BTW). And if you’re afraid, stay home, but don’t try to dictate my life on your fears. And if you’re afraid, I’m sure there’s a local college where you can find some puppies to pet and books to color.

For all the reasons you mentioned, I seriously doubt the totals. I also believe that we’re being isolated without being isolated and tested to see how much we’ll accept. About 3-4 weeks in this stopped being about flattening the curve and started being about control…

https://dennisprager.com/column/our-dress-rehearsal-for-a-police-state/

I live in a large city in a blue state, and I do not wear a mask except to gain entry to the larger grocery stores or big box chains. Soon as I’m in the aisles, I pull it down.

Like you, I want others thinking the same way to know they’re not alone.

I recently moved out of SoCal. The level of hysteria there was mind numbing. I now reside in TN, so much different here. People still wear masks inside because you’re asked, but if you don’t, most stores don’t care and most people don’t say anything. No one has ever commented on it to me.
Just yesterday I saw an older woman in the grocery store not wearing a mask. As I walked by her I said, “Ah, a fellow rebel.” She smiled and said, “At my age, you understand there are a lot more scary things to be afraid of.”

LOL. She’s right about that. I am convinced that many, many people feel the same as we do. Even here, nobody but the virtue-signalers wear masks (LOTS of younger people) unless absolutely necessary and by that I mean an employer or a place like Target is mandating it.

Couple times employees have said things and I’ve nodded yet carried on. Only time I conceded was when I was in a downtown location and an employee got the security guard involved. I stayed for one reason and one reason only and that was I was killing time on a cold day waiting for a friend to finish an appointment. Nothing else was open. Even then, I didn’t stay long.

Part of me wants to go back and expose their ignorance with a few pointed questions such as:

1) What’s the average age of death?
2) What’s your evidence that masks work?
3) If masks are so great, why don’t we just have the vulnerable wear them? After all, if they block the virus from being exhaled, they certainly prevent it from being inhaled.
4) If masks are so effective, why isn’t the economy reopened?
5) How many of your co-workers have died of the Kung flu?
And so on and so on…

Part of me really wants to push it sometime, mainly due to the preachiness with which their message was delivered, the sanctimonious nature of their complaint. I’d kinda like to see if they’ll physically remove me. Yes. I’m that stubborn.

Problem is I don’t crave the spotlight and prefer a more surreptitious route to victory. If I were to do it though, you can rest assured it would be viral video worthy. I would want it to spark a real debate which forced the news to actually confess that they have no earthly clue when it comes to the science and they should all just shut the hell up and leave us alone.

The problem with arguing with a lefty, and this goes for masks too, is they’ll run away from an argument and go straight to feelings. Then they scream in your face because of feelings. Have you noticed in the American vernacular the subtle shift from saying you think something to you feel something. “I think the sky is blue” becomes “I feel like the sky is blue.” I suspect this is because you can’t really say someone’s feelings are wrong, people can feel what they want. So they “feel” things they think to immediately shut down the conversation.
Also too, we conservatives need to be careful on when and where we make waves. Many of us are carrying firearms, if we push the mask thing too far and force them to remove us, some DA with an axe to grind could try trespassing, and add a weapons charge to top it off.
I recall walking into target here in TN and they had their little station set up with the masks and hand sanny etc. Of course I’m not wearing a mask and the snowflake at the door says they have masks for us there at the front. I just said thanks and kept walking. A few feet later, a three employees were standing around and me not wearing a mask got them all fluttery, it literally stopped their conversation and I could hear them complaining to themselves about someone not wearing a mask. But no one in the store said anything. I even got help from another employee.
I think more people need to realize what this is, a power grab, and an effort to get Americans to do things we don’t want to do. Americans need to get over the fear and go live their lives. And we need to remember we’re the people who told the most powerful empire in the world to fuck off… and they did. I’m afraid America has lost that backbone.

Well said. We need to honor the memory of those who spent all night holding up the Stars and Stripes at Fort McHenry. They literally had volunteers to replace those who were killed while doing so. As they did, Francis Scott Key was captive on a British ship writing the Star Spangled Banner in his mind.

Star Spangled Banner As You’ve Never Heard It
https://youtu.be/YaxGNQE5ZLA

Link for more historical detail from the Smithsonian. So proud to be an American.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-story-behind-the-star-spangled-banner-149220970/

That was awesome. Thanks for the link.
Our country is in trouble, we need to keep praying for it if we want to have any hope.

I have been saying that for years! Excellent! “I feel like” was likely born in the new academia.
I went back to college in 2016. In an Intro to Journalism we were told that facts are not news stories.
“No, no, the real story is how the event makes you feel! In 40 years no one will have a problem finding facts but they will want to know how you felt!”
Yes, I had more than one run in with this professor.

People who don’t want you to see their face will continue to wear masks. There are so many people, especially of the female persuasion, who are unbelievably self-conscious about the stupidest “flaws” in their appearance. There are men who just don’t want to shave or neaten up their facial hair. Older people don’t want you to see their wrinkles. Some people have bad teeth. I stick out my tongue at people on the sly …. just kidding.
As an ENT doctor, there are some things that I’m seeing in terms of community health. With school lockdowns there are less occurrences of tonsillitis, sinusitis, and nasal fractures. With masks, less people pick their nose as frequently. It is killing my practice.

Sorry about your practice. This whole thing is insane. Why do you think more doctors don’t speak out?

Scott is a kool aid drinker…. There is overwhelming evidence ( check out Tom Wood) to show that mask do absolutely nothing. zero/zilch. The reason the flu is down as a rule is they give every death or sickness to covid whether it is true or not? On top of that, many folks have been literally locked in their bubbles by this communism crap that the chance for exposure is also way down and that is reflected by the so-called low flu numbers. I must admit I was disappointed and disillusioned by hearing Scott tow the Fauci line of utter BS. Bill you saved the day with your outrage but if that is the best Scott can come up with he needs to go. We come to this place for truth on facts not liberal talking points. Mask dehumanize and degrade the risk that is known as life. If I want liberal talking points and justification I can go to MSM all day long.

To disagree, address the issue: “I disagree with Scott. From what I’ve read, masks do absolutely nothing.” I expect to hear disagreement on this site; I can learn from views with which I disagree. Do NOT attack the individual.

Count me as one of the so-called 25% who will NOT wear a mask after the mandates have gone away. This Covid thing has been blown waaaaay out of proportion. The politicians (including Fauci, who is very much a politician) and the complicit media have trampled on personal freedoms and God-given rights to assert their CONTROL over the population. Enough is enough.

And no one ever really questions Fauci’s flip flopping on issues. I think there will be a greater than 25% my guess is more than 50% and in time even greater number will throw them away. I may have a mask burning celebration when when we are released.

Yesterday, I was walking home from my nearby bank when a woman walking toward me left the sidewalk and went into the street. I thought she was going to get in one of the cars parked along the curb but no, she passed me and then came back onto the sidewalk and kept walking. I didn’t notice if she was because I don’t care about such things, but I wasn’t wearing a mask. I never do when I’m outdoors.

I have seen that too, there are times I almost laugh at them. I do not wear a mask outside either, putting them on and taking them off at the doorway of the store.

Confession time. Rebel that I am, with increasing frequency I am removing my mask before I reach the exit! O-o-o-o, how I love to live dangerously!

Ha, thought I was the only one. And jerk that I am the removal is happening much further before getting to the door.

Well, I don’t think you are a jerk we shouldn’t have to wear them in the first place. I take mine off 1/2 the time before I am outside. What can they do but ask me to leave as I am in the process of leaving?

I don’t even wait that long. My mask comes off as soon as the self-checkout register spits out my receipt! At that moment, I am no longer a customer and no longer beholden to that establishment. And I don’t put the mask on until I am actually in the store, not a second before. Not the in the parking lot, not even in the vestibule where the carts are, only when I’m inside.

It was funny. For a moment I felt like a samurai circa 1600, “That’s right, you move aside when we pass on the road, peasant.” LOL

I’ve been watching your reports for years, and have to say this is the worst one you have ever done. Giving credence to the lies we’ve been told for the last year? Shame on you!
Where to start with the misinformation: 500k excess deaths in 2020? How about putting that into statistical context (it’s not a big deviation), and put blame where it belongs – on the government response, not on a virus. Flu cases down to hundreds? This virus is a flu, and a seasonal flu at that. The measures to reduce COVID have brought flu numbers down? Perhaps you haven’t heard of the medical lab that received 1500 “positive COVID” samples, and all they found was Influenza A and B. Positive tests for COVID? The PCR is NOT a diagnostic tool, but guess how it’s being used…
The Nazis and communists found that it takes about 2 months of lies to get people to accept the lies; after that, they’ll continue to believe the lies even when presented the truth. We’re about to have the first anniversary of “2 weeks to flatten the curve” – small wonder the UPI survey found what it did.
I suggest you look up Tom Woods if you want real information about what has been going on.
Always a fan, but you got this one VERY wrong.

I agree. The division now is between those willing to deal with reality and those who don’t along with those in power who will manipulate them to serve their agenda.
We already call the MSM fake news and for good reason. We need to up our game and start calling out these people in public at work and in our neighborhoods. We need to stop giving credence to the fake news outlets spreading the lies by giving the time of day to those who believe the lies they are being told. Anyone repeating their lies needs to be confronted on a personal basis. It can be done civilly. In fact, it must be done civilly. But it must be done.

Not wearing a mask is a great conversation starter.

“Sir you need to put on a mask.”

“Sorry, but I don’t think so. Can you provide any evidence that I should other than that’s what government officials said we should do?”

Steve – PLEASE – STOP USING “EXCESS DEATHS!”  And yes I’m shouting!
What are ‘excess deaths’ (during the coronavirus pandemic)?
CDC says; “Excess deaths are typically defined as the difference between observed numbers of deaths and expected numbers.”
It is a number that is “expected” to provide some insight into how you are responding to a crisis. These numbers may be of use if the numbers reported are honest. 
However, when there is financial incentive to report a specific cause — all bets are off.
All bets are off.

Mr Ott,
I totally understand your point about masking. With all due respect, not everyone who goes into a store without a mask is trying to make a “political statement.” I am one of those people who doesn’t wear a mask, and it’s TRULY a medical issue. Due to a near-death car accident in my youth and the injuries sustained, breathing is difficult for me, let alone breathing through a filter on my face. On top of that, there is a little bit of PTSD from having countless tubes shoved in and out of my nose and mouth for 3 solid months, that ANYTHING near my face literally makes me hyperventilate.
My husband also has issues with breathing that prohibit him from wearing a mask. I have another friend who was physically assaulted repeatedly as a child by a brother who tried to regularly smother her. Having things near her face causes her to relive the trauma and abuse. The whole point I’m trying to make is, not everyone who goes into a store without a mask is doing it for political reasons. It’s irresponsible, in my humble opinion, to group non-maskers into an all emcompassing faction of those that are politically motivated.
So in closing, those of us that are fighting for our right to live in the healthiest way possible for us are being treated like the lepers of Old Testament days and quite frankly, it’s LONELY. So implying that ALL those that come into your place of employment sans mask are doing so purely out of political motivation is a tad short sighted.

Respectfully yours!

Shannon, I 100% agree, I do not go into stores without a mask to make a political statement I go in because I am an AMERICAN that is free to decide what risk I shall take to live me life. My neighbor, the store clerk or anybody else is responsible for my safety period. Nor am I responsible for theirs. If they do not want to go into a store where no mast are go to that store but do not ask/demand that I bow to this liberal lunacy. I am with you, not wearing a mask is not always a political statement it is apparently freedom.

Because the left has politicized everything, it is perfectly acceptable to make a political statement by not wearing a mask. Exercising your political liberty in opposition to political tyranny is absolutely valid!

Doug,
Yes! Exactly! As an AMERICAN, I have the right to be responsible for my OWN health and no one else’s. Don’t get me wrong, my refusal to comply with the unconstitutional decree of mandated face coverings isn’t just about the fact that I medically can’t, it was also meant to send a message. That message was, that as a sovereign individual, I valued my right to liberty and choice far greater than the perceived safety that a mask or plastic shield would provide. I don’t take to kindly to a government that would issue any proclamation wherein it has the assumed authority or power to willfully rob me of my identity as well as obliterate my sovereignty and individuality.

Man, I’m getting tired of you right wingers Repeating the Phony Narrative! Masks don’t stop covid virus. If you can smoke or vape through your mask, you are not protected. This is because covid 19 virus is 1/2 the size of the smallest smoke or vape particle. If smoke slips through, then covid is slipping through. You are trying to exclude mosquitos with chickenwire…you realize how dumb that is, why do you not realize how dumb your “anti-covid” mask is? Ok, maybe hardware cloth, not chicken wire…but you get the idea, I hope. There are videos on youtube demonstrating the smoke penetrating masks, both in and out. Try it with your mask, if you wish.
Now, I will blow your mind, so be prepared: Hospital masks don’t even work in the surgery theater. Two published studies show that surgeons/nurses/anesthesiologists wearing masks in the theater lead to 14% Higher wound infection rates compared to when they don’t wear masks. Dr. Pamela Popper reported this in one of her daily health videos. https://wellnessforumhealth.com/
How can this be, you ask? Well, all the crap the mask does stop builds up on the outside of the mask. When the surgeon leans over the patient, the crap falls off into the wound. Likewise, the crap that builds up on your mask falls off whenever you sneeze, cough, laugh, or turn your head (or get hit with a mini-gust of wind from a passing person). Mask wearers leave a trail of increased crap concentration in their wake. The persons following behind breathe this increased concentration – this ups their chance of catching whatever disease was floating around in the air. Whoops.
Tony Heller has posted graphs of this phenomenon all year. No matter what the size of the population (city, state, country), mask mandates are followed by an exponential increase in infection rate of covid 19. https://newtube.app/TonyHeller (some of his vids are still available on youtube, also)
So, you three, the people who are actually caring for YOUR health are the ones that are NOT wearing the mask. btw, the fact that our dearly dispized President has proclaimed mask mandates should be another clue that masks are a bad idea, don’t you think?

I’ve been saying all through this, if pre Covid I walked into a bank with a mask on, they would have called the police. Now if I fail to walk into a bank with a mask on, they will call the police.

The use of masks is so detrimental to the environment as a whole. If you think, they are being turned out in the billions without causing issues with toxins, in air, water, and land?
I always tell people the fact is that climate change is real. The Earth’s climate is always changing and is not designed to stay even. The danger that is ignored is the poisons, toxins, destruction of our land, water, air and even genetic manipulations in everything. The mask waste is going to be, and already is becoming a world wide disaster. What will be the long term effects? The climate change fanatics should be screaming from the mountaintops, (that could be built out of masks now). I wonder how many of the people pushing the masks are either directly invested in profiting from them, or being used as lobbyists for those that are invested now.

If you haven’t looked up Tony Heller regarding the debunking of the climate alarmists, then you’re in for a treat. Also, you’ll thoroughly enjoy this…

Global Cooling: An Inconvenient History of the Climate Change Hoaxhttps://youtu.be/hjcdMU2itv8

“If religion is the opiate of the masses, then climate change is the laxative of the retarded.” LMAO.

As far as trash building up on the streets, disposable masks are the new disposable diapers. Have you noticed how many of them are cluttering up the sidewalks?

I don’t believe that is an accident. A lot of misdeeds are able to be accomplished during chaos.

2020 deaths over 2019 is only 47,664. Not 400,000+. So, How many actual Covid-19 deaths were there in 2020? If there were almost no flu deaths in 2020, is the test for Covid-19 not able to discern between actual Covid-19 and other flu variants? Something doesn’t add up,

And a fair number of those extra deaths are caused by lockdowns and their fallout. Much more to expect in ’21. Too bad there is no metric for a “general health”, as that dropped in a massive way due to stayng home, drop gym routine, not attending chronic problems that need supervision and scaling back all the screening/preventive procedures. I didn’t even mention the psychological effects.

Those that argue the other side for the coin will say that the CDC data lags by 8-12 weeks so they won’t know the real number until March. Kind of like stopping counting votes and restarting once you know how many more you need.
CDC should be reporting 12 months of data once finalized every year so that we can compare year over year at any time. Like actual companies do for their important metrics.

Where do you think your exhalations go? Not just through the mask, but freely and unrestricted out the top (if you wear glasses you see this), the sides, and the bottom. Only your inhalations come mostly through the fabric, and you get to inhale oral debris, bacteria, and other collected waste over and over and over. It is a farce.

Yeah, did you see the video where they showed the results of all the different types of masks including double masking? Easy for anyone to do during the winter unless you are lucky enough to live where winter is still warm.

Is Scott aware that having a beard prevents even the best of medical grade masks from making a proper seal on his face? Those nasty little droplets of potential covid or other viruses are sneaking through his carefully trimmed whiskers and putting others at risk! Perhaps beard wearers should be required to wear full negative airflow helmets to protect the rest of us. I’m contacting the CDC to report him.

I have a lot more beard than Scott does and I’m very well aware of the effect it has on mask wearing. It allows a lot more air in and out during those times when I am absolutely forced to “mask up”. I never, ever wear a mask unless compelled to but when I have no choice having a Viking-class beard just highlights the absurdity of being masked. It looks ridiculous too.

So while you’re reporting Scott Ott, don’t forget to report me too … 😉

What I am not seeing is any debate on the long term use of all this sanitation. Especially the among the very young as they need to be infected by common viruses at an early age so the body can build immunizes against. If you stop that you may be doing a disservice to the human race.

I don’t believe children should be wearing masks and my heart goes out to those who are forced to wear them.

Thinking you are responsible for the consequences of risk others CHOOSE to take on THEIR OWN behalf is codependent and enabling. Wear a body condom if you want Scott, but don’t shame others into a responsibility they don’t have.

I believe the reduction of Flu cases and deaths is a result, not of any procedures that are questionable – at best – but of the profit motive involved in calling any and all cases Covid. A hospital receives tens of thousands of dollars for covid cases and not a penny for Flu cases. How would you classify it?

Yes, in 2019 Influenze was the 9th leading cause of death in the US. In 2018 it was 8th. Now we are supposed to believe almost non-existent?

Yes. What is it? 25% override from Medicare on top of all other reimbursable expenses.

Hmmm… Now let’s see. Hospitals facing a giant sucking sound at the other end of their revenue stream faced with the choice of plugging that by categorizing anything that remotely resembles a Kung flu death as a Kung flu death with the “standard” set by the CDC being that YOU DON’T EVEN NEED TO HAVE A POSITIVE TEST.

I mean literally the doctor can just think that it resembles a COVID death and put it as a contributing cause of death. I’m surprised we don’t have a billion.

To put something on the bright side, https://youtu.be/QZUQSWvRNh4 yesterday’s Viva stream with a canadian lawyer. His org starts an array of law suits against government and health officials on all the lockdown laws, regulations.
If nothing else, those officials will sit in the courtroom under oath and will not be able to dodge all the relevant questions on actual science used, presenting their data to back the draconian measures and everything.

You are assuming you actually get the politicians in court. It is more likely it will be passed off to some innocent lackey or scapegoat. Also, as I point out to many people, the CDC has been giving recommendations, not legal orders, so anything that has been done by the states, cities, businesses was by their own choice. The government agencies that did order these draconian measures are immune from lawsuits and will not actually matter in the end. Its all just drama. The lawsuits show that the orders are not legal, but then again so what? They will enforce now and ignore the fallout later.

The court will be forced to make verdict. And use all the material presented. Part of it is show for the people — just putting all the REAL science in the papers that can’t be removed or censored. (Court material is public by default and sitting on the court’s web.) It may well judge in favor of the people — the canadian judges may not be sitting in the pocket of the government.

I truly desire governmental accountability, and then positive change to address the plethora of issues.

I like that, only I steadfastly refuse to spend any money on these absurd precautions. If the masks are supposed to protect you, why aren’t they covering two rather large mucous membranes on your head, your ears?

I wear bandannas as masks. And when an officious government twit tries to tell me that are insufficient, we’ll teach them the very definition of arbitrary and capricious.

At least my bandannas cover my ears.

Respiratory viruses can and often do use the eyes as an avenue for infection. People inoculate themselves when having virus particles on their fingers they rub their eyes. Someone coughing or sneezing near your face can inoculate via your eyes also. So if a person is genuinely vulnerable or afraid they need also to be wearing at least the windshield if not a scuba mask.

I have to agree with Scott that these people are just saying what they think the pollsters are wanting to hear. And that is unfortunate that so many people are afraid to stand up to the government and say how they feel. That’s why the government is getting away with so much of this. People need to get some back bone and stand up for what they believe.

Agreed. I also thought Americans were made of hardier stuff.
But I don’t have kids, a mortgage, a car payment, etc.
Should all that make a difference?
Maybe those things are being used as “scare” tactics too. We see it in other countries. Police brutalizing the public for “infractions” of rona edicts because “it’s their job”.

This is probably true. But no one said that freedom didn’t cost. If we do not stand up and say what we believe, then the government will become emboldened and overstep itself more.

I think it’s part their indoctrination is complete, part saying what they think the pollsters want to hear.
Statistics can be used to say whatever they want it to say.
I would ask:

  1. How many people were surveyed?
  2. Were there any “leading” questions affecting the answers?
  3. What were the demographics of the people who answered the survey?
  4. What was the geographics of the people surveyed?
  5. What are the + and – percentage points?

All of these things would make a difference on if the survey was statistically significant.
But since “science” is out the window, I doubt this survey is doing anything more than “proving” what they want it to prove.

Statistic are a completely pliable “science” made of clay. It can be shaped into anything. Statistics are the least trust-able supporting information. So misleading, the statistics are one of the levels of accountability that need to be strongly implemented. No misleading statistics should be allowed and stiff penalties for those that utilize them to affect choices/policies.

As the old saying goes, statistics don’t lie, liars use statistics.

Or, the quicker version: Figures don’t lie, liars figure.

I believe that American’s concept of risk has been dramatically altered over the past few decades.
Prescription ads on TV with a list of possible side effects, vaccine scare mongering, non-organic food, strangers, “severe weather”; etc..
Our grandparents fought and won WW I, our parents survived the Great Depression and WW II, we survived pretty much everything yet we have/are being conditioned to see significant risk all around us.
We have lost faith in our individual abilities to assess and deal with risk; we turn to “experts” to tell us what to do. No expert, and I’ve done expert testimony at trial, knows everything about his field. When has any expert said in the past year- “I/we do not know about that”?
We are losing faith in our country, our civilization, and ourselves.
And we are transmitting these failures to our children.

I had hoped that Dr. Tony “Incorrect” Fauci made the year 2020 the Year that Expertise Died.

I forgot about the sheeple.

The only people who should like Fauci are the weathermen. He makes them look like Nostrodamus

I flew back home from a vacation in the Caribbean on January 16th.

I sat about 3 feet from a number of people that I did not know for about 5 hours. Upon disembarking the aircraft (a good 45 second proposition), the flight attendant instructed us to leave a 6 foot separation from the person in front of us. These are the rules from our betters. How does this make any sense?

None of the rules or “edicts” make sense from a disease transmission perspective.
The only thing that makes sense is rona was used to cripple our economy, kill off our most vulnerable on govt. medical, to put out of business the small biz owners, and to cause high unemployment by not “allowing” people to work unless they were “essential”.
Most people can’t see it’s destruction via a crisis. Do we still not understand “by any means necessary”?
I only wear a mask if I can’t buy groceries without it. I could see what was going on after the 1st month.
Maybe because I don’t watch MSM. ???

You say it for me, De. Every time I talk about this subject I sputter and stumble over my words in a rush of exasperation, anger and absolute disbelief that so many people can be so easily influenced and duped and frightened by what amounts to a sickness that is severe, but no more so than previous pandemics and in fact less so than quite a few. Deadly, yes – to those on their death beds, or near so. Yeah, yeah, anomalies occur…in everything!! People don’t know history and in spite of me finding it unbelievable, I guess most Americans really do believe what the MSM tells them.

The thing is, this pandemic is too important and too successful to those who want to rule the world – it’s never going away. Ever! And sadly, too many people are going to go along out of ignorance and fear. I’ve reached a point where I’m losing confidence that those who have been suckered will ever wake up…until it’s too late.

You are right to avoid MSM – which unfortunately those who do affects us all.

clarification on my last sentence in previous comment. I mean those who DO listen to and believe MSM and the power elites affect us all.

I get angry and frustrated too (I’ve ranted a few times on here).
Somedays I want to scream at people to wake up . . . but I guess waking up is harder than staying asleep.
It’s zombie world for real. 🙁

I am one of the jerks that Scott mentioned. I only wear a mask because the government says so, under penalty of a fine or time in jail.

I have been going out to bars and restaurants about twice per week since May. None of the people that commonly go out with me has had this disease. This includes a person that works in an “essential” business (a liquor store). One person last week had it several weeks ago, but he was new to the group.

The average human being does not think for himself anymore. Peer pressure and conformity have taken over the psyche of the average human to the point where “we” are nothing but a collective of unthinking drones — at least 75%.
Call me a jerk, but this whole freaking fiasco is nothing but a social experiment imposed upon the masses by those in power.

I will dispose of using the mask as soon as permissible by the ordinances. I’ve never social distanced and I’ve only worn the mask when mandated to do so. So…guess I’m in the minority.

Since the whole thing is built on lies, it appears the only way it will end is if people refuse to accept the stupidity regardless of “ordinances”…but, I suppose this video shows that we can’t be waiting for that heroic cohort to arise.

HAH! 😀 Like the mask mandates, this was a complete waste of time. However, the message is clear.

I hope that some of that is people telling the pollsters what they want to hear.

I admit, I will keep wearing my bandanna masks.. as bandannas. It’s like a childhood dream of dressing up like a wild west bank robber.

As for social distancing… hell, that’s easy. I don’t like people. 😉

Joking aside, I hope that they do wear them. It helps me identify them at range.

For years I have complained for the lack of hand washing in general, but I never hoped to get to the extreme we are at now. I wear a mask because my spouse has a co-morbidity but I hope we don’t have a public consensus to wear masks …forever. I am reminded of a joke about a person whose father passed away at age 98. “If he hadn’t smoked two packs of cigarettes a day and drank two pints of ale, he could have lived to be 99.”

When my Grandfather was in his early 90s and was having some health issues, he moved in with my parents. I lived in another state, but arranged a business trip so that I could have a weekend with him (and them). I was in my early 30s at the time. Around 5pm, he got a look on his face and I asked what was wrong. He said every evening for his entire adult life he had a small scotch and wanted to have one with his grandson. I said great I will be the bartender. He said the doctor said he couldn’t have scotch anymore as it interfered with some of his medicines. I found my mom and convinced her to stop giving him whatever that medication was and let him live his life out as an adult. He was 90+.
He lived another two years. Would it have been more, who knows. But life is meant to be enjoyed. And the simple things, like a drink with a grandson, are meant to be cherished.

When my uncle was in hospital… and almost 100, he hated the food and asked for shmalz herring… which was obviously not on the menu… I told his daughter to just get it for him… why deprive him of one of his joys?

Well, if it’s accurate it just shows what was almost evident from other sources: the majority of americans have their brains rotten away for some time.
Maybe not 75%, only 59, or 54, but still way above the threshold to have a sensible country. (And before whataboutists intervene, USA hardly holds the monopoly on that.)
@Scott, did you miss the note that the mask DON’T FUCKIN WORKS? You failed to explain why are you so happy to play the theater.
The science is pretty simple. The surgical mask holds back ~80% of particles. While it splits the remaining 20% so those travel more much distance and are kept in the air for hours instead of minutes.
The more usual cloths masks do only the second part. Just the effect on the virus itself if one is actually infected and has it in the breath. We have plenty other bad effects that hit everyone.
And do you change your mask every hour as prescribed?

Thank you Pal. I couldn’t have articulated it any better than you did. I am so sick and tired of people apologizing for this Insanity that is imposed upon the lot of us by these tyrannical, power hungry jack offs in our governments.
If individuals wish to wear masks in public and physically separate themselves from other people, so be it. But stop trying to make it sound like all of these social distancing and mask wearing mandates be the end all be all solution to a problem that can be resolved easily by letting the human immune system develop an immunity.
P.S. — sorry if you were disturbed by my yelling.

Yes, it’s like we can’t POSSIBLY allow the human immune system (in healthy people) to do its thing, seeing as our medical “experts” are SO much smarter than the designer of the human body. (All sarcasm BTW.)

Small children being forced to wear masks are being handicapped. Children learn from observing the world around them, and that includes looking at faces. Their psychological, and social development is being stunted.

Agreed, but we still “allow” the government to make them wear masks. Their developing lungs are begin negatively affected also.
But there we go putting a “suffocator” on our children.
All these local/state “edicts” are unconstitutional.

It sickens me to see children wearing masks, especially outside at recess and play. They are being told that if they don’t cover their face they could get sick and die, or make another person sick who would die. That is abuse.

You don’t want to get this disease? Get yourself some ivermectin. It’s cheap, very effective, very safe, and you can get it online.

Read this, and watch the video:
https://nonvenipacem.com/2021/02/04/ivermectin-whats-good-for-the-horse-is-good-for-the-handler/

Also, build up your immunity with quercetin (because where are you gonna get hydroxychloriquin?) zinc, vitamins D3, and C. (The quercetin tip came from a fellow BW member. I can’t remember who, but thanks!)

Masks are dehumanizing! That has been my main objection to the low these many months. So I wear a mask only when I must, because I will not be allowed in the store without it. It is a very loose one, and made of a rather thin fabric so that I can breath fairly easily. Even though it is thin, it will still do the job of catching most water droplets spewing forth from a cough or sneeze.

I refuse to feel any guilt for spreading the plague, because I can’t give you what I don’t have. On the two or three occasions this past year, when I have had a probable covid virus (I believe that all colds are caused by some sort of corona virus,) I have stayed home until I got over it. (I just don’t believe in the asymptomatic spread scare.) I have no idea if it was the 19 variety, because I refuse to get tested, because I don’t feel a need. The tests, we are now being told, are rather inaccurate anyway.

And lets examine the huge elephant in the room. All the lock down, mask wearing, and social distancing mandates were imposed to stop the spread. Most people are complying. So has this worked? Judging by the numbers – and they are their numbers, not mine – they haven’t stopped covid19. They have stopped Donald Trump, and slowed the economy, social cohesion, confidence, and courage of way too much of American society.

Yes, this is a real disease, and can have dire consequences for some, but by no means most people who catch it. Other than that, the vast amount of news/expertise/science/etc. surrounding this pandemic is BULL***T!

I disagree with you on flu counts, Steve. I’ve got a feeling that when we get final total numbers for colds, flu, and Kung-Flu, the sum of the three will be around what the totals were for the last few years. I’ll admit that at this point it’s just a theory without proof, but I’ll be curious to see how the numbers shake out in the end

There are nice charts showing that covid “cured” flu completely in big areas of the world — especially where the hospital got real $ for covid death or patients.
“During the 2019 flu season from Sept. 29 to Dec. 28, the CDC reported more than 65,000 cases of influenza nationwide. During the same period this flu season, the agency reported 1,016 cases.” https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/01/11/amid-coronavirus-flu-cases-record-low/4127197001/

I think one positive thing that is likely to come out of this pandemic is that flu vaccines will be re-worked to mRNA vaccines and be more effective. The COVID-19 vaccines have been some of the first mRNA vaccines to be widely used, and at the moment they appear to be astonishingly effective. This is a good thing. They’ve been working on these for a while. Now we’ve tried one (thanks to Warp Speed) and … they say the flu vaccines we’ve been using are maybe 40-60% effective (generously) … this one is 90+? Yeah.

The goal should be we get to live as humans, without masks, seeing each others’ faces, breathing fresh air, shaking hands, hugging, etc — except for perhaps in extraordinary circumstances. And as it turns out, this particular virus isn’t nearly as extraordinary as it was sold as last Jan-Mar.

Just because the firms got legal waiver for this vaccine and opportunity to experiment on millions of humans does not mean any other mundane vaccine would get the same license. I mean before the actual long-term effect data is in, so for 5-10 years.
Also, mRNA sounds sexy but does not make a vaccine “more effective”. Especially against a fundamentally different virus.
Current flu vaccines are attenuated or inactivated — I’m not aware of any subpart vaccine in use, and the covid vaccines are equivalent to that. For their other cases of use all kinds of limitations apply.

Scott – I hate to be the one to tell you this, but with that luxurious facial hair you have, your mask is doing very little to protect others or yourself. Air finds the path of least resistance. Even the N95 mask only works if it is fitted well, like a respirator for those who have ever had that type of fitting.

Exactly. I watched a talk given by an OSHA Respiratory PPE expert who said you must be clean shaven, the mask must be engineered to address the agent you are protecting the person from, an effective mask must be fitted to YOUR face, that people per OSHA regulations have to receive training on PPE, and the masks must be replaced with fresh ones as frequently as every couple of hours. And employers mandating masks have to supply the appropriate ones.

This is correct. The types of masks that can protect against a virus are in quite limited supply and are time limited for wearing. And expensive.

Be aware that N95 masks, or even N100 masks are not for medical use, they don’t work against viruses. I have an N100 mask in my shop for protecting me against dust inhalation, but dust particles are huge compared to a virus.

No way do I think that number is correct. Living in a less population dense area, most people are wearing masks because they have to. I know quite a few people who either work in the medical field, doctor’s offices, or have family that do. They are very free with their opinion (which I share from an engineering POV) that wearing a mask does very little to protect you or others. And much of what people are wearing are really face coverings. They can stop a sneeze, but if there is virus in your sneeze, as soon as the moisture evaporates you are pushing out the virus with your breath. Gaitors are the same especially those made of synthetic fibers.
As soon as the ordinance goes away so do most of the masks.
The real question is will the ordinance go away or will next flu season or the next novel virus cause the same reactions?

You’re absolutely correct. That is the real question. I believe the answer is the mask mandates will never disappear, because the bloody tyrants in our governments will refuse to relinquish the power that they have stolen. I’m yelling again.

The previous governor of VA is running again (Clinton bag man Terry McAuliffe). He used the following phrase about “gun control” a few weeks ago. The epidemic of gun violence. That is no error. They will use these tactics to make it a public health issue and make all types of EO in the name of public safety.

This sort of BS won’t stop until a much larger fraction (>50%) of citizens publicly-declare, “You can have it when you pry it from my cold dead hands!”

Our Governor in Montana expired the mask mandates today and loosened the restrictions on businesses.

I am in agreement with getting rid of the mask mandates. All things considered (especially me not being accustomed to cold weather), what is a good month to visit Montana?

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