How can Conservatives who play by the rules beat those who have contempt for the rules? With Progressives trying to pack the Supreme Court, how do we prevent this ‘thumb on the scale’ of justice without breaking the rules ourselves? Bill Whittle and AlfonZo Rachel discuss the moral question at the heart of politics.
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47 replies on “Beat the Cheat: How Conservatives Who Play by the Rules Can Defeat Progressives Who Don’t”
To continue with Bill’s BB analogy. It’s more like the US DID have a substantial lead. So, the refs stopped the game and turned out the lights. When the lights came back on, the refs told the audience that the Russians had scored fifteen more points during the darkness and were now in the lead. Then, they continued to call fouls on the US team to the end of the game to ensure the Russian win. And Arizona, for instance- they simple added 15 points at the beginning of the game, and told the audience they could leave near the end, because the Russians already had it in the bag. So, even Bill’s case of “have a commanding lead” was already bypassed.
Zo hit it out of the ballpark!
How to get that big win? Speak and teach a prosperity (prosperity is not a gospel) so big that people get on board! Can we imagine being free and prosperous enough to choose our healthcare with our own money? How about our retirement? How about our kids’ education? Does the GOP believe that a free America can become the machine of prosperity for all? Everyone, no exceptions! Can we imagine an America out of debt, an America with so much work to do that we have employment kiosks at every point of entry?
You can have Zo Rachel on any time!
It’s not the fact that the Dems cheat, it’s that more than half of America is either willfully ignorant or OK with the dishonesty.
About that unbeatable margin when it comes to the courts. Packing the Supreme Court won’t be as devastating to our rights and liberty as the deadly combination of forum-shopping, questionable standing, and nationwide injunctions from the already packed lower federal courts has been. The SC made 64 rulings in the 2019-2020 season. The lower federal courts? Hundreds of thousands. The Chief Justice could slap down these unconstitutional Circuit/Appeals Court nationwide diktats, and Congress has the constitutional authority to limit the lower courts’ purview or to even disband them completely. But any of that is what the people would perceive as cheating. Seems the deception is so thoroughly ingrained, perhaps it’s beyond fixing, and we’d best steel ourselves for the inexorable moment we’ll each be forced to choose whether to sell our souls or be willing to resolutely sacrifice our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
Cheaters are criminals by the very definition. You are never going to stop cheaters from cheating by making new rules. When only the rule followers are playing by the rules, extra rules only make it harder for them to play. The cheaters win by not playing by the rules, it doesn’t matter what rules are added. Referees are not held accountable and that may be part of the issue. Start holding them fully accountable and liable with serious repercussions. Even if it takes a year to see the footage they can and should be still be held accountable.
Zoe is 100% right. Trump really did fail to drain the swamp. He successfully exposed the swamp but that is about as far as he was able to go.
The bitter truth is he had opposition to his quest from both sides – Democrats and RINOS.
People in our camp – honest people who follow rules, want to be left alone, and don’t care what other people do as long as it doesn’t infringe on our rights – must stop letting the details keep us from taking our ball and going home. America is OUR home. We love and cherish what it could be but no longer is. They, the hate mongers of the left and RINO’s, despise OUR home. They are the ones who must be driven out. We can’t win hard enough to save ourselves. Sorry. Stop dreaming and start doing what it takes to recover and protect OUR home. We’ve cast mountains of pearls before these swine and its gotten us nothing but great humiliation and loss of what we hold dear – freedom.
No one did their job! Not the FBI, the CIA or the DOJ! I think Trump came in as the CEO of a corporate takeover, trying to help people keep their jobs. But his first speech should have been “If you’ve been cheating your opportunity to get out is now. Else we will find you and prosecute.”
That’s a circular argument- prosecute with WHAT? You just mentioned the FBI, DOJ and CIA were all in the bag. How do you defeat that?
Good point! There may not be 10 righteous people left in those departments.
How did they got rid of the gangsters in the 30s, not head on, but by going for them in softer, less armoured areas.
Funny Bill. Trump did have an insurmountable lead. When the Dominion vote flipping wasn’t enough, the CHEATERS shut down the election count to import millions of votes in the middle of the night. Trump had Biden beat by 15 million votes across the country and still lost. Please tell me how much is insurmountable?
You’re right. Trump’s lead was insurmountable. In line with what Bill was saying, if we saw the referee give the Russians 15 free-shots, people would have walked out. likewise, if we saw the outrageous amount of cheating that was going on in the election, people would have revolted. Well, you saw it. I saw it. Many, many people saw it. But that the people that NEEDED to see it, did not. Not only did the MSM continually refute that any “wide-spread” cheating occurred, most evidence of cheating was censored. Additionally, after Jan 6, people were threatened with jail on charges of insurrection if any doubts about the integrity of the election were voiced. That was enough to scare the few pundits that we could usually count on, into silence. It was as if the whole country had blinders on.
Whoever watched the hearings in the various swing states listened to those who had signed affidavits about the irregularities they saw. There was massive evidence. The left said there was no evidence and they kept saying it.
We are in a war for our freedom. Have we lost the will to fight for it? That is the question. Biden is a usurper—so was obama. Another stolen election can happen unless we take a stand. Will our country be taken over completely by Marxist thugs? Are we close to the gulag and choosing to whistle past the grave? Do we believe God is on our side? Why aren’t we acting boldly?
Only in the case of Obama, I fear what we would have had if he had lost might have been even worse. At least his presence made a lot of people form up an opposition. nd that very thing is what gave us Trump. A McCain or Romney presidency would have taken us down a path that the R’s would have supported with no opposition.
As Jordan Peterson says.. there are a limited number of ways that humans can play a game repetitively and peacefully. If they won’t follow the rules, and if the only standards they have are the double standards, there is no basis for co-operation. Civility is reciprocal. If the other side cheats, you simply have to refuse to play. Take your ball and go home. They want to keep playing? Then they either change their ways or they can use force. For people who want to see themselves as kind and generous – forcing their nose into their use of force destroys that – make them use it and make them see it.
Remember , even if their use of force is successful – they loose. They can kill every liberty loving person in the nation and they will still end up impoverished – monetarily, socially and and spiritually. . Reality doesn’t care about their feelings.
Their understanding of reality is wrong and reality is going to bitch slap them. They are determined to have this happen, and the systems by which it could be stopped are gone. Being intelligent freedom loving realists we see the bitch slap coming. The best you can do now is move and stay out of reality’s way .
Debt to GDP ratios rarely go above 105% and almost never above 120%. Massive changes will be required to save the system -and I am betting the powers that be are not willing to make them. In fact I think they are counting on impoversihing everyone because beggars are easier to please . Take your UBI, own nothing and you will finally be happy!
A failing currency means enforcers have to be paid in toilet paper and loot – most are not willing to get themselves killed over such payments. Plan accordingly. Become as self sufficient as possible, get the hell out and away from any city , build networks of the like minded (remnant communities) and do everything you can to minimize the effect of the coming bitch-slap on you and yours.
Well said. As long as people tolerate the cheaters and support them giving over their resources, of course you will have more and more of that.
Problem is the war will eventually find its way to you. It is a fact that in the revolutionary war, only about 20% of the patriots strove for freedom from the British tyranny. 15% were actually supportive of the British, and the other 70% felt as you do. Let’s just stay away and hope it doesn’t mess up our lives. Eventually all had to choose sides as their land was taken, their sons and daughters conscripted, and killed. You cannot hide from this.
THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.
Unfortunately, without deploying a weapon of mass destruction, there is no way to beat the cheaters when the entire system is rigged against fair play. Such weapons cause devastation and mayhem on all sides of any conflict.
So many people just chose the destruction that follows from the rot and call it a day — hence the whole mess we live in.
It is a sad fact that you are correct. The average human being is a fearful, ignorant sheep that is ripe for exploitation.
You eliminate the referee … by any means required. Let’s begin with dismissing the authority of the referee.
“We let them pick the referee” – sort of like the 2020 election? And how come The Radical Left never has to win by margin of lawyer?
TBH that election is a mixed bag, as significant part of GOP colluded. When both sides delagete referees, but yous turn out to be traitors (or even just complete idiots) it’s a different matter than a single-referee system.
Remember the lesson I learned from years of Facebook food fights: You can’t reason someone out of a position that they haven’t reasoned themselves into
Regardless of what either McGuyver or Red Green would have believed, even duct tape can’t fix stupid.
But it CAN be used sometimes to silence it…just saying.
Very simply, you beat Leftists when their tactics ni longer are fun for them. If the law will not serve that function than to some degree you adopt their tactics until they use the phrase “both sides need to stop!” (Leftspeak for “sorry, we were wrong”).
Virtue is good, but at least acknowledge that we’re fighting the last war under the presumption that we’re fighting an enemy that possesses the slightest shred of honor
I must disagree. There is no equivalence for such declarations in the language of Leftists. The hubris of those who hold those perverse beliefs knows no bounds, and apologies are verboten.
Correct – I should have left out the “sorry” part. My point is that the only way for leftists to express wrongdoing on their part is with the “both sides” or “everybody is wrong” qualifiers
The only way for leftists to consciously express their perfidy is to blame it-project it-onto their competition/opposition. Therefore in their devilish monitoring of the system, the other team is at fault. So they use their media cabal platform to gather in and CAPTURE the like minded whom they can rev up to demand change by force of violence and black mail. Capture was the word Valerie Jarrett liked to use to describe how they acquired their useful idiots–like Van Jones and many others! See the current events.
Debate ‘moderators’ are proof of the expression , we don’t call the Republicans the stupid party for nothing. At some point you start to believe their ‘opposition’ is a show and they’re pretty much content to enjoy the perks and let the Democrats run things. Many Republicans had already made peace with the idea of a Hillary administration and seemed actually angry when Trump upset their arrangements
Yeah, they missed the memo that walking into the crossfire is not bravery but stupidity.
I believe those second place silver medals from 1972 are still in a vault somewhere in Europe , the US team has never accepted them
BUt Bill, the margine of fraud has gone up to about 50% after the last election.
We have to win every time. The left only has to win once. How are they able to do all this w/ only 8 vote total majority in congress?
I was talking to coworker “friends” just yeasterday and they were talking about stupid Trump telling people to drink breach.
Many people are primed to think the worst of Republicans / conservatives so when they hear any crazy thing they are inclined to believe it without checking the actual quote. Fine people is another
Tru dat. Another co-worker, way back in the day who was moderately conservative, she was surprised to learn that it was Tina Fey, NOT Sarah Palin, who said “I can see Russia from my house”.
Trump didn’t tell anyone to take fish tank cleaner, but it seems someone tried that as well. Stupid people do stupid things and then blame others.
from what I recall about the fish tank cleaner story, the wife used blaming Trump as a clever defense when in fact she was attempting to kill her husband. Maybe the truth doesn’t support that claim, I didn’t continue pursuing the story but evil people have unlimited creativity when figuring out ways to do evil. Doesn’t keep them from being caught, necessarily, but boy, they can think up some doozies.
I believe the truth did turn out to be attempted murder.
I thought he died so it was actual murder?
I searched for info and they were investigating it as a homicide but the ME ruled “accidental overdose” (what?) and the detective was quoted saying she was about to wrap up the investigation, apparently with no charges filed, even though the toxicology report clearly showed that if the wife had ingested half as much as her husband did, she’d be dead too. That was the most recent report I could find, dated last June.
Ha! Suspect they don’t want to have a trail that might expose that DJT isn’t somehow at fault for that “accidental overdose”. That term doesn’t even make sense in this context – it’s not like fish cleaner is a prescribed or over the counter medication.