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21 replies on “Total Victory: When Conservative Ideas (Finally) Triumph Here’s How America and You Will Thrive”
“You can’t get there strictly by bashing the competition … ” although that seems to work fairly well for political campaigns, sadly.
“America without THOSE guys.” How about “America where THOSE ideas are less prevalent”?
Kurt Schlicter wrote a trilogy that sort of shows us this … but it’s probably too much red meat for blue minds to get past.
There is no such thing as total victory, everything is a duality. The pendulum may swing but it will inevitably swing again. What we can hope to do is to do the most good while the times are in our favor. It’s the old dilemma that without evil good becomes meaningless and vice versa. So when the winds of fortune smiles upon you enjoy your time and make the most of them because they won’t last forever. We’re all Sisyphus and we must accept that we’re bound to roll that rock up the hill again and again for eternity… That’s what makes us human, the humility to accept that burden and carry it out again and again.
Scott is too optimistic for the facts as they are today.
Total victory? Neither Republicans nor Democrats, Left nor Right, will ever achieve total victory (one completely replacing the either) so long as freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of conscience prevails. Personally, I thank God for the conflict of ideas. Look at what happens when only one ideology is allowed to prevail, as in the Soviet Union or California. Ideas stagnate and all freedom perishes.
If we’re ever going to win this the one big thing we need to do is get past this ridiculous scorched earth policy that many Conservatives have. If you happen to believe in conservative values but make the slightest ‘mistake’ then “you are dead to me” — Is not what the path to victory looks like. All this “gotcha!” crap needs to stop.
I like Mark Dice and watch all of his videos except those dumb “man in the street” interviews he does on the Santa Monica pier where wanders perhaps the largest clusterf**k of Leftists and just plain idiots in the nation that can be found. The people he interviews are not exemplary of anything but sheer imbecility. Most of them don’t actually have any political views and just want to go on camera showing the world what wonderful, tolerant Kalifornia drones they are.
They are empty, plastic people. The majority of them will seize any opportunity to get in front of any camera because they think it might be a chance to be “discovered” and the first step on the path to stardom they feel they so richly deserve and are being cheated out of. They are auditioning, not opinionating. I know this, I lived there. Mark knows this too but a YouTuber has to post something and that’s unfortunately what Mark came up with. It is more than safe to ignore the drones, most of them not only don’t know anything about politics, they don’t vote either.
Mark isn’t perfect.
I watched a video of Mark’s last year where he was soundly condemning Ben Shapiro because Ben was caught on a hot mic saying that perhaps a gender reference he made during taping should be cut to avoid being deplatformed. So all of Ben Shapiro’s work on behalf of conservatism, all those thousands of hours of video and arguing the conservative cause in diverse places, was worthless. According to Mark Dice. Because he bent a tiny bit to keep from being rendered redundant and irrelevant. That’s what (I believe it was what) Ronald Reagan called a “circular firing squad”.
That’s not helpful at all.
It.
Just.
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Not.
Helpful.
I said I like Mark and I do. I’ll still watch his other content and I’m not throwing him under any busses just because he did something I don’t agree with. In fact, there’s a lot of things Mark Dice says that I don’t agree with but his heart is in the right place and I’m happy to let him bring people over to our side by whatever means he chooses. Mark is a net gain just like Ben Shapiro is a net gain and Ben is probably a bigger gain than Mark is. This nation could use more, not less, of both of them and it’s OK if I don’t agree with, or like, everything they do.
Steve Green mentioned in the video Democrats like Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard has supported some outrageous “progressive” policies. That doesn’t mean she should be damned to hell for all time. YOU are not going to vote for her anyway.
If you have to choose the lesser of evils, say between a root vegetable like Joe Biden being manipulated covertly by an unelected committee of real, rabid Leftists — or someone like Tulsi Gabbard, Tulsi wins that contest every time. She’s still not a good choice, she’s not someone I would ever vote for. She’s the equivalent to us that Liz Chaney is to the other side. It’s not that she’s a conservative, it’s not even that she is anywhere close to right in her views. What Steve was trying to get across is that she’s a lot more like a traditional Democrat than the foaming-at-the-mouth far Left Social Marxists that have hijacked the Democrat Party.
You’re not going to ever be rid of the Democrat Party. Even if they allow the far Left Social Marxists who have hijacked that party to bring on a crash and burn … Like a phoenix it will rise from its ashes. Because dense and stupid they may be, they will learn from their mistakes same as we ought to. In fact, they’re a lot better at learning from their mistakes than our side is. If that were not so I wouldn’t even need to be pointing these things out.
If they make enough mistakes to really, seriously hurt themselves — They will change their tactics. Count on that. There is a serious, significant fraction of voters in the United States who are traditional, hereditary Democrats and they will bring that party back towards power no matter what.
While we make huge efforts to swing this nation back to the right just in the hope of actually approaching something near center, we need to bear in mind that a tractable, reasonable, historic Democrat Party is in fact in our own interests.
We’re not going to vote for them anyway. We need people on the other side that we can work with. We won’t get that if you keep helping the Left Extreme stay in power by shooting down someone like Tulsi Gabbard when she or he comes along. One of the biggest political arguments that someone on the other side can make to get elected is —
“I can work with the Republicans to actually get things done. I can end this stalemate and get at least some of what we want by letting them get some of what they want too. That’s better than nothing at all and nothing at all is what you will keep getting if you don’t elect me.”
That’s a damn hard argument to deny.
I seriously believe that if the Democrats had people like that, we wouldn’t have to slam on the brakes and dig in our heels to keep this country from plunging off a cliff. If you want us to plunge off that cliff, keep doing what you’re doing and that’s what you will get. The train is headed for a cliff at full throttle, if we don’t have to try to stop it with our feet we can turn it around. Then it might not be headed in the ideal direction for our ideology but the cliff will be avoided and we can work on fine tuning the course over time.
While you’re at it, stop slaughtering the images of people who are mostly on our side too.
Right now, if someone is 51% on our side, that’s good enough. Good enough to avoid destroying them because you don’t think they’re 99.9999% ideologically pure Conservatives. Stop shooting our feet off or we are never, ever going to win this race and while you may be a virtuous, pure-as-the-driven-snow dyed-in-the-wool rock-ribbed Conservative that will be as much your fault as it is the fault of our adversaries.
Right now, on our side, we need people to support our ideas, even if it’s only most of them. We need such people in the media. We also need people who can run for office and get elected that at least sound like Conservatives. We can hold their feet to the fire when they screw up but our side needs to stop cremating them.
The Left notoriously eats its own children. Don’t do that. That is us becoming like them and it is not helpful. If we use the despicable tactics of lies, manipulation, deception, election cheating, vote buying, character assassination and all the rest that they use, we will lose because no matter who gets elected to what office that person will just be another RINO. That’s not really winning, it just seems like winning. Those are not the same things.
If you want a real wolf in sheep’s clothing keep doing things that are not beneficial to our goals. No matter how good they feel and no matter how much you enjoy spleen venting. If you want to lose, keep up the emotional outrage and vituperate biliousness. Yes, there is much that is justifiably outrageous and vituperate, that’s not the point. If you want to win, fight smart not hard.
The “agree with me 80% of the time” concept does get us someplace, though I wonder where a Joe Manchin fits in something like that. He seemed like he was holding out on principles, then found his price and seeming sold the country.
Can we only work with someone like that when we’re in power, or he is?
I don’t think Joe Manchin is a good example to use. He’s always done that “flip at the last possible moment” thing, he’s known to do that, he can be counted on by the other side to do that. He can be counted on by our side to do that.
Even so, Joe Manchin wouldn’t have had to cave to his party if his party were a majority of Joe Manchin’s and the Left wasn’t pulling hard on his strings all the time.
By which I mean, Manchin is as much a creature of the circumstances he finds himself in as anyone could be. Give him better circumstances and he’s likely to be more like someone we can work with. If I had to choose a Democrat component of Congress composed of Ilhan Omars and AOCs or a Congress of Joe Manchins and Kyrsten Sinemas I’d go for the latter two over the former two every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Those people, none of them, are ever going to be on our side. Wishing them gone, or somehow magically converted to a full-on Conservative viewpoint is dishonest and vane. All we can hope for is to see whatever Democrats that are elected have a realistic worldview and will put our genuine national interests, which are also the real interests of the people who elected them — First.
So in answer to your question. Yes. Both. If and when the Democrats either see the light or crash and burn so they’re forced to change tack. If it were not for the extreme far Left elements now controlling the Democrat Party there may have been something WE could have given Joe Manchin that would “meet his price” and that’s how it’s actually supposed to work.
Yeah, if the two sides, composed of rational actors, could have 80% agree 80% of the time, maybe we could get somewhere. With both sides using scorched earth against their own the middle is left burnt.
Great points, and not just because I agree with you on the stop the you are dead to me. I had sent this in to Bill and Zo and they covered in on a Virtue Signal a few months back.
I tried to find the Reagan quote and couldn’t. But I think he chastised R’s that if there are 10 points on the platform and you agree on 6, help work on the six. Don’t condemn those who want the other 4. So this goes back a ways.
Even when Newt had his 100 days list; credit to both he and Clinton for finding the common ground that they could both support. Clinton (Bill) was a savvy enough pol that he knew succeeding on some things was better than getting nothing.
I probably personally agreed with Tip O’Neal on almost nothing; but when I saw him on Cheers having a beer at the bar, he reminded me of a good friend of my parents, with whom I had shared plenty of drinks. Political adversary doesn’t need to mean personal adversary.
One of my wife’s dearest friends is pretty hardcore left and only gets her “news” from MSNBC and CNN. She detests Trump because she thinks she is supposed to. My wife was still able to spend the day at another friend’s pool drinking Sangria and laughing yesterday. They just didn’t talk about politics. She is not going to be converted, why beat your head against the wall. And why miss out on enjoyment in life.
Well-stated, Bill! The fight will continue as long as humans are responsible for their existence.
Mankind started in the Garden, literally sinless and walking with God Himself. Mankind ends up literally uniting to wage war against God Himself (Rev 19:19). The trajectory is clear. Bill is precisely correct. Cultural entropy is inevitable. Yes, it’s a sine wave, but each successive trough is lower than it’s predecessor, and each successive crest is lower than its predecessor. You guys repeatedly pointed out that we used to have this idyllic, kumbaya, dispute resolution environment. That environment didn’t yield the Left’s desired results, so they REJECTED it. That’s how we got here. You can’t coexist with cancer. It must be removed. You can’t coexist with people whose only reason d’etre is your death or subjugation. We can hopefully win some of the middle. However, expecting Leftists to return to defective (in their eyes) means is unrealistic at best.
It’s not a matter of getting Leftists to return to anything they found unworkable for their purposes to begin with. That’s never going to happen.
Jesus himself faced the same problems with the Sanhedrin. He had the entirety of Scripture, which they knew very well also, behind Him. The Sadducees and the Pharisees were not interested in doing the right thing and I’m sure at some level they knew what the right thing was. They were interested in maintaining their status and power and that is the quarter Jesus assailed them from. He didn’t say “You guys need to change” He said “Woe unto you”.
He knew He wouldn’t convert them, He’s God so he is aware of stuff like that. He knew He had to let them dig their own holes and dig they did. By nailing Him to a Cross.
If you’re going to quote Scripture there’s a lot there to take in. One lesson I can see is there are people who will never, ever change their ways. We can’t do anything about those people except …
That 30% or less of the nation that are true Leftists, true believers in their cult of Social Marxism, are never going to reform and join our side. They must be defeated, not persuaded.
No one, that I can see, is suggesting otherwise.
It is the manner of that defeat which is crucial. Much of one’s strategy depends on how many normal, genuinely conscientious people you think remain in this country. How many people are going to side with those who mutilate children, send deviants into women’s bathrooms and all the rest of the depravity we’re seeing promoted by the Left?
Because here’s the thing. If there aren’t enough of those people remaining and the entire nation is to be given over to depravity then we’ve already lost the political battle and nothing remains but real combat.
So, do you think that’s where we are?
I wasn’t sure, but I was thinking that you were agreeing with me until toward the end.
1) In 1981, I had a USS JFK shipmate who used this analogy. The ship is sinking and God told us it’s going to sink. There’s nothing we can do about that. Our job is not to save the ship, but to get as many as possible into THE Lifeboat before the ship goes under. That process may require localized firefighting & limited damage control measures to enable the escape of some trapped in a compartment, but ultimately, the fires & flooding will take the ship down.
2) We know that at the End, Israel stands alone, which means that America must be removed from the scene (either militarily, politically, economically, or some combination).This has largely been accomplished.
3) Under cover of darkness, in the wee hours of 11/4/2020, America was assassinated/euthanized in the most starkly brazen, in your face, rub your nose in it, election heist in our history On 1/6/2021, America was embalmed, and on 1/20/2021, America was buried. Beijing Biden’s walking corpse persona portrays America’s condition.
4) Ancient Israel had some revival under Kings Hezekiah and Josiah, yet the damage was done, and God refused to withhold His Judgment. America is past that point.
5) Having said all this, giving up & cowering in the corner is not our calling. Our call is to do what we should have been doing all along. Fighting certain “political” battles to create a temporary upswing in the sine wave could be analogous with limited fire fighting to free some individuals trapped in a compartment. My main point is that (MUCH to my deep grief) the Stars & Stripes” are not “Forever.” My initial post demonstrates society’s relentlessly dogged advancement toward degeneracy, and that won’t be reversed through political action or even cultural reform. To expect long term improvement smacks of post-millennial heresy and flies in the face of all Scripture, experience, and common sense.
You didn’t really answer my question and I find that a bit puzzling. I asked if you thought we are at a place where there is no hope for a peaceful political solution and the only alternative is armed combat … And you gave me a sermon on your fatalistically eschatological viewpoint.
I’ve been studying eschatology since one Sunday morning when I was 16 driving to work at Walgreens and listening to the Scott Ross program. Scott Ross is/was a Christian personality and had a talk show on the radio back then. That was the summer of ’75 and I went active USMC after my next birthday late that summer so I can nail down the time pretty solidly. I was driving to work on a Sunday because Scott Ross’ show was on Sunday mornings, I was driving so I had my license and I had to be 16 to get that. I went in the Marines 3 days after my 17th birthday so that means there’s no doubt about the timing.
I’d never really heard anything before that day on End Times as Christian Doctrine. It wasn’t covered in my formal Protestant Christian church education. Not a part of my Catechism or any of that. So it was like “WOW!!! I didn’t know any of that!” …
And I began to study it, in depth, for almost 50 years now. That’s a long time. I don’t claim to be any irrefutable expert on the topic but I’m a long, long way from uninformed too.
One thing I’ve learned is that the Rapture or The Last Trumpet, or your death, is the same result to you. You may die before being raised bodily from the grave but the end result is close enough either way that it doesn’t make any real difference to you. In either case, your reward or punishment is already sealed and you are going to the same place no matter which path gets you there.
It would be really cool to be alive caught up in the air with Jesus and that could happen any time but … The vast majority of His people will never have had a chance to go from life to eternity by any road other than death. If that happens to you, you are truly blessed but it’s not something you can count on though I’ve been waiting and hoping for nearly 50 years to see it.
Another thing I’ve learned is that it is not at all Christian to pivot your choices and actions around The End Times. It doesn’t condone that anywhere in the Bible. I’m not saying it’s evil or sinful but that’s something people, not God, have come up with. There are Bible passages about looking forward and not back, but they’re not saying you should act on your interpretation of eschatology and live your life by it. You are not a prophet, you’re an interpreter of prophets and you might not have everything exactly right. There is a lot of solid, justified, reasonable theological dispute over prophecy. If you had everything exactly right you’d be a prophet and no offense, I doubt you are.
Something I learned in my military service is to never, ever give up. To keep fighting and striving until that last fatal bullet or fragment brings down your personal curtain and you can do no more. To never act like you’re going to die in the next few (seconds/minutes/hours/years) because you might just be wrong and acting like that will very likely become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Never quit, ever. You don’t have the right to quit. It is your duty to fight right up until your final heartbeat and fight as though you not only mean to win but as though you know you’ll win.
So I do not at all agree with the idea that we’re on a ship doomed to sink and there’s nothing to do for it but evacuate the crew to the best of our abilities. Frankly, that’s a Navy way to look at things not a God view of things. Yes, God did tell us this ship was going to go down, some day, but it’s always been sinking since Eve listened to that slithering monster in the Garden of Eden. That doesn’t mean it’s OK to give up and just let it sink while trying to rescue anyone handy or not.
You don’t know for sure, because there is nothing in the Word of God that makes it certain that there is no other hope but than to evacuate the ship and get what crew off that you can. God knows and for his own reasons he lets us have hope but you don’t know.
There is an anti-Christian argument that Biblical Canon is a bunch of hooey because the Apostles and their contemporaries thought Jesus would return in their lifetimes so they would not have bothered with anything but proselytization. They wouldn’t have written new things or books after Jesus crucifixion (which describes the New Testament and that’s what the anti’s are trying to discredit) because hey, he could be here tomorrow so there’s no point. That’s a false doctrine. It’s not that the Apostles and contemporaries didn’t think Jesus could return any moment in their lives, they did think that. Paul makes that much clear in 1 Thess. 4:14-18. Reading that it’s easy to think that he was perhaps only talking to future generations but it was a letter to his contemporaries and v.18 makes it clear that he is telling people in his time to comfort each other by the fact that Jesus could return at any moment.
So the Apostles thought Jesus would or at least could return in their lifetimes and … That didn’t pan out obviously. If they can be wrong, it’s less than humble to think you are not capable of having something off a bit in your perceived timetable too.
Back to those who try to discredit the New Testament with this line of reasoning. You’re not trying to discredit the New Testament but you’re employing the same line of reasoning with the sinking ship analogy. What’s the point of writing if Jesus is coming back in our lifetime? = What’s the point of fighting if the ship is going to sink anyway?
I hope He does come back, very very soon. Until he does that, or I die, I will continue to fight as though the fight can be and will be won.
I do not know the will of El Shaddai in regards to how and when He chooses that point where the ship is not only sinking but will be sunk. He told us we don’t know the day or the hour and we don’t know the year, decade or century either. There was a time when I was certain I did know that much, that the signs said it would happen in my lifetime. It has not and I might have been wrong about that. Many people I had hoped would live to see the Return of Jesus Christ to claim His Kingdom are now dead and gone.
It will happen, of that I have no doubt. I have learned that trying to figure out when is folly. It’s useless speculation. Things might very well turn around at any time because they have done so in known history.
The nation might go through a revival, the weirdos, sickos and depraved perverts might be deposed as a result of revulsion at their own excesses. Or not. For all we know God has allowed things to get this bad and grieved over these sins in order to show us the error of following those evil people. Neither you nor I know whether or not because we do not wield God’s will and we cannot impose our will on His.
I don’t have the right to give up. I don’t have the right to run for the lifeboats and grab as many people as I can on the way. I don’t have the right to assume the ship cannot be saved. Maybe it cannot but that’s not my call to make and I refuse to make it. One thing is for sure. If we throw up our hands, give up, back off and try to save the crew while letting the ship sink — It will sink. If you’re wrong about any of the things you said in reply to me above, even by a little bit, then evacuating and running away is what will help the ship sink and that will be your fault for not fighting until your last heartbeat.
1) The fact that Israel stands alone at the End, thus requiring the elimination of America is Biblically incontrovertible. We are required to believe that the ship will sink because God told us it will sink (although He didn’t tell us exactly when).
2) If you had read my 5th paragraph, you would not have accused me of giving up. Please read it.
3) Our choices are not simplistically binary. The length of my response was designed to illustrate that. It’s not a matter of fighting vs. giving up. My point was that we must keep fighting, yet without the delusion that we will ultimately preserve America until the End comes. The post-millennial heresy teaches that the church will ultimately win the Earth for King Jesus, who will then come down to reign. This will not happen because it can’t happen, and God told us that it won’t happen.
4) When will America fall? I think it already has. Either way, yes, keep on fighting, but without the expectation of temporal victory. God directed Jeremiah and Ezekiel to warn the people. He told them in advance that their warnings would go unheeded but to warn them anyway. We are accountable to do what he commands, but the results are God’s problem, not ours.
Scott, you have painted a beautiful picture with your silver tongue, and I would love to see your vision come alive. However, history, as long and varied as it has been, has yet to show such a success story, so I’ll have to doubt that the future can show it either!
Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy is maybe the blueprint. Convince them that the world is ending – well they already are. All we need to do is build the rocket ships.
BEWARE! If Tulsi Gabbard is so sensible as Steve suggests, then why has she repeatedly voted for the leftist agenda items that violate our liberties? I consider her to be more of a wolf in sheeps clothing, and we need to beware of the wolf lest we be eaten.
Have not yet listened to today’s R/A but felt the need to comment on this:
I just added a comment to yesterday’s session on “Drop the T”, wherein I also had reason to provide the link to the Project Veritas project: https://www.projectveritas.com
But while there I also noticed the vile, really biased, Wiki description:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas
Project Veritas is an American far-right[16] activist group founded by James O’Keefe in 2010.[20] The group produces deceptively edited videos[15] of its undercover operations,[7] which use secret recordings[7] in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups.[21][22] Project Veritas also uses entrapment[14] to generate bad publicity for its targets,[4] and has propagated disinformation[3] and conspiracy theories[30] in its videos and operations.
This suggests that if we are headed for total victory, we still have a long way to go.
I work at a company that is neck-deep in a somewhat benign but relentless campaign to promote “Diversity and Inclusion”. In the process of trying to eliminate all traces of animosity toward “others”, they have inadvertently embraced what amounts to promoting a climate that prohibits diversity in its truest senses, the diversity of thought among all members of the Human Race. It is not possible to really express any disagreement with the D & I campaign. It’s met with shocked silence. It’s ironic that the results of an effort to promote harmony and acceptance has the opposite effect.
There are no two people who are the same, and that’s been true since the dawn of time. We are all unique and worthwhile for our own sakes.
I think the world of the future that is discussed in this episode is a world where we are free to form opinions and free to express and discuss them, and free to disagree with some and agree with others. We would also be free of the threat of harm or abuse if our ideas are different from someone else’s. I think that’s the real problem these days, that everyone, of all persuasions, are on attack mode. It’s not enough to disagree with someone, there has to be ridicule and sneering at least, or physical violence at worst. The world of the future where we would have won will be a place where I may think you are wrong in what you think, but I’m not going to try and demean or hurt you in order to put you in your place for having an opinion contrary to mine. And you would have the same reactions to anything you disagree with from me. Discussions might be heated, but we must always reach for respect and leave room for the handshake at the end.
Problems.
“Conservatism” is not monolithic; there are several strains. Libertarian, big business boosters, community focused boosters, religious focused, and the silent who don’t want to be hassled nor participate in governance. I’m sure that I left some out. To some extent these are incompatible. Unlike the Thug Left our diversity is both our strength and weakness.
With rare exceptions there is no conservative who can or has the talent and drive to communicate to the outside world the values of conservatism.
I get plenty of fund raising e-mails from Republicans; I will not contribute to any who are not out there on a daily basis fighting for what they believe in.
Take a thousand random adults and ask them what the Republican Party stands for. I’d bet that not 10% of them would be able to answer that question and many of those answers would be inaccurate. Our educational system is so corrupted that no “conservative” ideas are taught much less tolerated.
“Victory” Is ephemeral until we decide what we stand for and have the courage and perseverance to fight for it.
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