Good Morning Patriots,
As I site here this morning on this Upstate New York morning and look out the window and glance at the overcast sky, I cannot help but feel an intense feeling of betrayal, despair and dread. Sounds dramatic, but I have had this nauseating knot in the pit of my stomach for the past two months, and yesterday after finding out we lost the Senate, and then with VP Mike Pence betraying us all, I realized right then and there that the Trump era officially ended, and all safeguards to put the brakes on the upcoming catastrophe has been removed. I also wonder how the hell did we get here? We’ve been in a pot of water slowly reaching its boiling point and we didn’t have the nerve to jump out before it was too late. I cannot imagine what half (or likely more) of the country feels right now, as we all are different people, but even though I know you all feel the same or similar, I cant help but feel this intense sense of loneliness. As I know you’re all out there, but we are surrounded with so many people that are just going along with this or outright hold us in contempt for feeling the way we do. Unfortunately I have this feeling that even though there are many of us, there are also many of them that embrace this tyranny and injustice and how do we fight against that knowing the cultural wind is against us?
Over the past year, my family has been fractured physically and emotionally, no holidays, no get togethers, and I don’t dare voice my opposition to this coup. Most of my friendships have been strained and faded away because how dare i oppose this pandemic and how stupid I am to support the president. Everyone around me walks around with masks like sheep being led to a slaughterhouse and I cant shake this feeling of dread and pessimism. I think things are going to get worse, much worse, before it gets better…if it ever does.
Trump is leaving in two weeks and it appears he has conceded. He isn’t officially gone yet, but I will miss him, I already do. I am typically a very happy positive person and takes a lot to beat me down, but the sense of injustice and betrayal I feel right now is overwhelming and I was wondering if there was anyone out there who felt the same?
Hold onto your hats, its gonna be a bumpy ride…God Bless you all!
Joe Rothe
26 replies on “A Sense of Sorrow and Despair”
Hi Joe,
Thanks for your post. I feel the same way about yesterday’s events. Since then, I have tried to disengage from all sources of news and social media with the exception of this site and Locals.
I feel as if the idea of America — the idea of a free society — is over. There is something deeply unsettling and almost un-American about punishing people for their political beliefs. So, in addition to a sense of loss that I share with you, I feel genuine fear of exposing my political beliefs.
The thought of Kamala Harris as our next President also sickens me. But I am committed to disengaging from the news.
It’s perhaps time for us to focus inward — on their spiritual, mental, physical and financial health.
Beryl
So, Mike Pence could have taken the risk of being accused of going to far when he would not have been by people who would not dream of being extreme in their defense of what makes America a country worth living in.
Or rather, has made this a country worth living in.
I want to think of the Constitution as the chassis of this country, the one part of it that, if it all that is left, can still be used to rebuild it when everything else has to be scrapped.
Or Mike Pence could have continued to (well, he thinks – he’ll soon learn how wrong he was) enjoy the respect of those people who have no idea how bad things have gotten.
He made his choice.
He was obscure when Trump made him prominent (that time spent defending RFRA would have made him no better than a Trivial Pursuit question quickly enough) and can go back to that.
Will he even be on Fox moving forward?
Pence will probably disappear from public life now both by choice and also because he knows we wont vote for him for anything ever again. just let him fade away and let him fade away in our conscious history.
P.S. Pence followed along with the program. He did have other options. The betrayal from all sides is complete.
I don’t think we should argue amongst ourselves.
I also think some people simply aren’t aware that these states in question went around their legislative bodies in this election “certification” process.
That, in itself is unconstitutional.
Many of the courts in said states refused to even hear the evidence in the lawsuits. Meaning they dismissed them outright. Did anyone else notice all the MSM, politicians, social media, etc. all used the same “canned” phrases throughout this whole debacle?
Even yesterday as they “debated” over contested states.
We lawfully went through all our “justice” layers and were denied time and again for redress of this grievance.
And all the people who counted illegal votes, recounted the same votes over and over, smuggled in and counted illegal ballots, wouldn’t allow poll watchers to do their job, wouldn’t hear court cases brought before them, illegally certified their state electoral votes, and voted to certify all the illegal votes are all to blame.
But as we no longer have rule of law (or have two sets of law), none will have to answer for their sedition/treason.
Our “representatives” have told us two things:
If the arguments can simmer down to heated discussions about how different states election laws work, for the purpose of people in those different states being better equipped to get into their state legislatures or support people who do for the express purpose of making certain there are no more elections like the one we have had …
… that heat will be worth while.
. An oven can get pretty darned hot when you are making even Brownies.
… And I have posted a video produced by Corning Glass of a craftsman making a glass dragon. The craftsman is spending a lot of time around hot glass and a hot blast furnace.
But even while still unfinished, it looks gorgeous.
So some heat is worth it. If you know what you are making. And it is worth making.
You hit the nail on the head. What this whole process has taught me, actually what this whole year has taught me…is that the people don’t have a voice and we are just test subjects in the sick social experiment of an elite oligarchy. My vote obviously does not count and it does not matter, and after seeing this quagmire and theft of an election, I have no reason to even vote anymore. Elections are not chosen by the people or the states anymore, they are chosen by the elitists through fraudulent and unethical means. My vote doesn’t count, and after Trump is gone, I have no reason to vote as there is no one at this moment worth voting for anymore. Both parties have betrayed us in a way I don’t think will ever gain my trust back.
Forget the two parties!
We all should have dismissed them when the Republicans ran Romney after McCain.
Elections ARE chosen by the people in the states.
It’s just that the people in the states did not show up enough to make sure they were heard.
They were bought off by tennis courts and community centers and the rest of the bacon state legislators were designated to bring home.
Be or help to put in ofice the kind of people who tell their constituents “Buy your own damned bacon. Do you want honest elections?”
I get it. I think “no party” representatives from each state with their individual platform and what they’ll do during their term limited stay would be a start. Voter option to deny a 2nd term if they aren’t doing what they said.
No pension or medical for life. Just a salary and health while in term. They can’t vote for their own pay raise or perks. Voters have to approve a raise for them if they did their job.
No lobbyists, no “speaking fees”. Free travel only to official, approved business and back to their home state. Limited election donations only during a specified period of time. Any payoffs, bribes, deals with big corps, etc. are against the law.
They work full-time (like the rest of us). They spend their time doing “the people’s business” instead of their own. They work reducing govt. red tape and laws that are not needed.
Wars or conflicts cannot be waged without the majority vote of the people. Except in cases of direct attack, then Congress has to declare war or we don’t go. Maybe the Commander in Chief (POTUS) could in a limited way if it was an emergency fitting certain criteria.
There is more, but I feel I’m ranting.
This is (of course) predicated on the “fixing” the election system first.
He seemed, for a brief shining moment, to be a man capable of not reflexively playing it safe.
I am not certain that can properly be called betrayal.
But it is sufficient for me to be quite happy to seem him just go away and stay away.
Pence has shown he is part of the swamp and couldn’t be counted on to do what was morally right. but he didn’t. He did what was easy and convenient.
What did Pence do? I see half the people calling him a traitor and half of them wanting him to be president. He opened the mail and read the votes, which was his only role. What did he do that was called betrayal?
Given the evidence, he is constitutionally obligated and allowed to throw the electoral votes from the fraudulent states back to the states themselves to resolve the issue. Half or more of the country feels disenfranchised and angry at most and concerned at the very least. Pence could have forced the state legislators to resolve their concerns OR he could have not counted those electoral votes at all and let the state delegates decide, but he chose to take the easy route and betray us all. I lost all respect for him.
Ah, ok. You are reading the other constitution. That explains the sense of betrayal. In reality, Pence could do nothing but open the votes and read them because the states control the election, not VP or congress.
Not true. He is under no obligation to open and read votes for states that have pending issues or are contested or pending investigations. He has the authority to not open them and throw them back to the states for the states to then figure it out. That’s how it works. Pence isn’t throwing out the votes he doesn’t like, he is throwing the contested election back to the states, hence the state legislators controlling the election. Plus Since the electors were chosen through unconstitutional processes in these states, Pence is under no obligation to acknowledge electors that were chosen through illegal means. It does not matter what lawyers say, what the supreme court says or what the majority of people day, only thing that matters is what the constitution says, and we can clearly see what the constitution was violated by these states. Just because cowards and crooks choose to turn a blind eye doesn’t make it not so. Sorry you disagree but that’s actually how it is. I know how to read plain English.
Which state has issues? None that Pence can do anything about. Look at Arizona. The elections results were certified by the AZ secretary of state, signed by the governor and sent to Congress. Pence can do nothing. His isn’t a betrayal.
I am glad that Biggs stood up and objected. His friend Farnsworth has a subpoena that has not been answered. They can debate but Pence has no role.
My understanding on AZ is that the Governor refused to convene the legislature, which severely dilutes their power to do anything official, but they had already subpoenaed the voting machines etc and then their election board voted 4-1 to refuse, and lawyered up. In the meantime, the state legislature was calling Pence to beg him to not certify because they do not, as a legislature, certify at this point.
Ah. So you know more than lawyers that study the constitution? The states do control the election and Pence needed to have them decide which set was legal as he had two sets of electoral votes in front of him from the disputed states. Do you really think illegal votes in PA should be accepted as certified by the same people that instituted the unlawful rules that allowed for illegal voting? There are checks and balances and he was constitutionally part of that process. This is not unprecedented. He is part of the deep swamp.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis-suggests-pence-defer-certifying-election-send-requests-state-legislatures-video/
Well said Rob, you said it better than I could have. thanks for clarifying.
False. There were not two sets of electoral votes in front of Pence. The states sent only one certified vote.
Stay awhile.
Listen. Read.
Be open to learning that you can be wrong.
Be open to being corrected.
Good people who care enough to want to learn how to fix state’s election systems are needed.
I want to believe you are one of them.
Waving to you from North Jersey, Joe! I too am an optimist at heart, have offered advice here that I’m trying to follow myself, and have been determined to keep perspective on the long run and not to let anything get me down, but I have to admit to quite a feeling of dread and gloom right now that I’m sitting here contemplating. Sad to say, I expected betrayal, much as I’d have loved to be proven wrong in that bit of pessimism. I don’t yet know where we go next from here, other than to soldier on, and I’m looking forward to Bill, Steve, and Scott’s analysis as I sift through accounts of what happened yesterday and try to make sense of it. I don’t know what to believe yet, but something about Trump supporters choosing to “storm” the Capitol on the very day our grievances were to be addressed, giving pretext for our supposed representatives to swiftly fold like a house of cards, doesn’t feel right. I’m just glad to have this place where we can all connect and try to sort it out together. Hang in there, sir! You are not alone!
thanks my friend, those were kind words…something that hasn’t been hurled my way in awhile. As much as I love New York geographically, I think my move to Tennessee may happen years sooner than I though, especially if I or my spouse loses my job due to the lockdowns.
Oddly, upstate New York has some gloomy significance for me too, as that’s where my wife and I were living on 9/11. Experiencing the weeks and months that followed the attacks in the very left-leaning college campus environment where she was working toward her master’s degree put me in a state of pretty deep isolation and despair, that I’m glad a job offer out west eventually saved me from. I hope greener pastures are in your future. Tennessee sounds like a good idea.
My move to Tennessee may not happen for a few years now, but everything is up in the air at the moment. Tennessee doesn’t seem to be at risk of being ruined by leftists anytime soon given its a deep red state. Upstate NY’s economy has ben dying for quite some time now. Pretty much anything north of 84, even though its mountainous and beautiful, is really depressed and desolate. No industry is up there, infrastructure is crumbling and the small towns are ghost towns, except for the more populated area like Albany and Kingston which are run down and dangerous. If you wanna know what all of America is gonna look like if this communist movement continues, that will be it.
Inevitably names of the prosecuted citizens that entered the halls of democracy uninvited will get released publicly. There will surely be a whole host of unnamed participants that will not be held accountable. It would be of interest to take a look at the essence of the careless thoughtless acts of this relatively small group. I would like to see if it was actually orchestrated and instigated by the swamp dwellers and we were all duped by yet another display of Theater Of The Absurd.