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Aliens Already Among Us Afraid Trump Will Reveal Their Presence, Secret Deal with U.S.

Former Israeli space security program director Haim Eshed, says aliens from other planets are already among us, and their afraid that President Trump will reveal their presence and their secret research deal with the U.S..

Aliens Already Among Us Afraid Trump Will Reveal Their Presence, Secret Deal with U.S.

Former Israeli space security program director Haim Eshed, says aliens from other planets are already among us, and their afraid that President Trump will reveal their presence and their secret research deal with the U.S.. What would happen if the public had real evidence that our government is in league with an alien civilization, even working together in an underground facility on Mars?

Background Resource:
Mankind Has Made Contact with Alien ‘Galactic Federation’
[Tim Stickings, The Daily Mail, December 8, 2020]

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I agree with Bill – intelligent life is extraordinarily rare. All you need do is listen to the MSM, our university professors, the leaders of the Democratic Party, or one of our ruling elites to prove that.

I’m kind of with the Monte Python song: “I hope that there’s intelligent life somewhere out in space, ’cause there’s bugger-all down here on Earth!”

Life in the Universe. Another challenge facing humanity is time. How long does an intelligent species survive it’s own existence and at what specific timeline in the fourth dimension do they exist. What are the chances another intelligent species exists at the exact moment Humans exist? It seems very unlikely we will meet or speak with another intelligent species in our lifetime. There are too many variables against the odds of such contact. Time, distance, immense radiation exposure and numerous hazards to overcome. It seems fanciful to believe we might one day meet another species, but logically, the chances seem almost infinitely impossible.

I loved the thought put into the response of other life in the universe.
I subscribe to The Institute for Creation Research; a group of Christian scientists who expound on the evidence of God in science. They had a video called Privileged Planet that documents over 100 different parameters required for life to exist on this little rock. Your statement on Jupiter “vacuuming up” the solar system is something I remember them talking about.
Either Uranus or Neptune were found without using a telescope; it was by mathematics. Something was amiss in that area of space because of a gravity source way out there. The scientists figured out the location that must have a small planet so large, so big and right here. They pointed a telescope at that point and verified rather than discovered the planet.

@Scott Ott. My wife and I visited your wonderful retail establishment the other day and left with some new additions for our home. I had hoped I might have been able to get to meet you in person, but I knew that was a long shot. The store is massive and I am sure there are hundreds of employees. I have been a financial sponsor since the three of you started this venture post PJ Media. My best wishes for you and your family this Christmas. Thanks for continuing the mission.

You know Scott is supposed to be a pretty hardcore Christian but I don’t hear a lot of talk of faith in his musings. How about the Earth is perfect because God created it?

I agree. Scott also comes across as balanced and level headed which is a great reflection of God in his life.
And if there is life on other planets, I know God created it to be there, He has made himself known to them and Jesus went there to die for their sins as well.

Bill I have enormous respect for your opinion. When you said we know what happened a thousandth of a second after the big bang I had to pick my jaw up off the floor. I’m gonna be a little hard on astrophysics here but before I do I want to say there is a ton of fantastic work being done in this field. The amount of observational data we are collecting is astounding and only getting better. In fact I think that will be the savior of the field in the future as almost weekly we are seeing word of new observations that are causing them to rethink fundamental concepts in the field. That being said, there is some rot here and it is deep and it is similar to the rot in climate science. Especially in the form of modelling incredibly complex systems with woefully incomplete data. Cosmology is the Mother of all science, meaning that all terrestrial science must fall under it’s umbrella. Most of our assumptions about star formation violate thermodynamics yet this is never addressed by astronomers because they are not forced to reconcile theory with experimentation.
For example, imagine a container of pressurized gas inside a container that is under vacuum. If you open the pressurized container the gas fills the formerly vacuum container evenly. If that room with gas is inside another room which is a vacuum and you open it the gas will again fill the room evenly. If you do this over and over again in bigger and bigger rooms you get the same result. Now imagine starting with a huge amount of gas in a gargantuan pressurized container sitting in the infinite space and vacuum of the universe. If you open that container what do you expect will happen? Logically you might expect the gas to expand to fill the void in the same way it does in the earlier example because this is a very well known and established observation. If you’re an astronomer you say the gas acts differently and instead of spreading out it shrinks down and self compresses to form a star. In the standard model this is called “gravitational collapse”.
It is generally accepted that stars form through the spontaneous self compression of gas, but through thermodynamics we know that it requires an external agent to do work on a system in order to decrease it’s entropy or increase it’s temperature. By having a cloud of gas cause itself to collapse while increasing it’s own temperature astrophysics has created a perpetual motion machine of the first kind. A system cannot do work on itself. If a gaseous cloud actually could collapse and decrease it’s entropy without doing work that would be a violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. There’s obviously more to it than this but this is already getting longer than I’d like.
Relating to simple unexplained phenomena of the sun. Why does the sun have a super rotational equatorial torus? Why the strange temperature differential between the core, the photosphere, and the corona? Why does it emit a solar wind? Why are the umbra of sunspots the coldest area we can measure on the sun? Shouldn’t it get warmer as we see deeper into a nuclear furnace? Think about that for a second. The deepest into the nuclear furnace we can see gives us the coldest temperature. Why? Why do sunspots even occur at all? Why does a simple nuclear engine that converts hydrogen to helium and other elements have a solar cycle? Not just one cycle either, several additional cycles beyond the 11 year cycle are thought to exist. What the hell was the maunder minimum? A 70 year stretch with barely any sunspots? How does one reconcile a simple nuclear furnace theory that burns consistently with very little variation over billions of years with the observations that we have recorded? We know that total solar irradiance is generally very stable but the particle and magnetic forces vary incredibly. This is far from a complete list but all of these concepts are central to our knowledge of the objects that make up a huge amount of the matter and energy in the universe and I haven’t seen a good and well defended explanation to any of them. Imagine if cosmologists had to prove their theories and laws in a court of law. Something tells me Roberts would side with them…
If we can’t satisfactorily answer even these questions about the one astrophysical phenomenon that we have more data and research on than anything else, I can’t fathom how this species acts like it can speak intelligently at all about the origin of the universe. The problem with basing everything on theoretical math is it is incredibly easy to deceive yourself into reifying your theory into reality. And once you’ve done that once or twice you are truly off to the races in the wrong direction. Sorry for the long tangent on a minute of your response.

Mind blown.
It is obvious when mr. de Vita points it out.
I have a BA in Engineering. I could have recited the 2nd law of thermodynamic and entropy.
But I never made the logical leap that the development of stars from a Big Bang violates that law.
Ginsberg’s theorem is a parody of the 3 laws.
You can’t win
You can’t break even
You can’t quit. (Although I always learned the 3rd law as “You can’t ever get to 0.”)

My Thermo 2 prof said that and I’ve quoted it many times. I didn’t know it was called that. Of course that would have been about 1978, so it was a pretty new expression at the time.

Interesting points. Don’t worry about the length of your posts, say what you have to say and take as many words to say it as you feel you need. Anyone not interested in this topic won’t read them, anyone interested will read them all. No one is holding a gun to anyone’s head to read anything. So the length of your posts is irrelevant.

One of the big problems, as I see it and though it is explained away with theoretical mathematics which as you point out … May mean little or nothing other than a skill with mathematical symbols and a penchant for finding exactly the thing desired whether it exists or not —

Is this idea that expansion of the universe violates the C barrier. If something moves at the speed of light, it is perforce pure energy. Photons are both packet and waveform but both packet and wave form are a type of energy. Nothing can surpass that speed because then it becomes more than its component energy. This violates the law of conservation of matter and energy. So how did expansion violate the speed of light?

I’ve seen some convoluted arguments that account for that but I find them wholly unsatisfying because they posit a situation where you can have your cake and eat it too. If a duck flies fast enough it does not become 1.5 ducks or two ducks.

Do me one favor though? Double space your paragraphs, it makes them a lot easier to read. For some reason this forum software only puts a single line with no blank line in a carriage return so you have to do two returns to get a blank line between paragraphs. That’s just a personal foible of mine but I find it much, much easier to follow someone’s thoughts when I can see a paragraph as an entity encapsulating a line of thinking or a point and then move on to the next one. That was the way we were taught way back when I went to school and it makes it easier for me to grasp what someone is saying. This isn’t a criticism, it’s just a humble request.

These concerns represent some oversimplified and overlooked basic physics. But it sounds like it was fun to write.
One quick one… gases move from higher pressure to lower pressure. It’s not magic, the molecules have kinetic energy, transferring momentum to one another. Closely packed molecules experience more impacts than those further apart, causing them to spread around until the density becomes nearly uniform.
On a cosmic scale, surely that happened early during the Big Bang as matter began to form. The matter would have inertia too, carrying it away from its dense origin. Direct physical pressure wouldn’t have significant effect at astronomically big scales where atoms or molecules rarely collide. Rather it would be radiation pressure and gravity, pushing and pulling, at seemingly unlimited distances.
Well, anyway, draw your own conclusions. It’s fun stuff to think about. But it may be worth noting that some of these “impossible, duh!” concerns are based on a limited understanding. More study may relieve some of the concerns.

Yeah … No. I got what Jake Di Vita was getting at. He was trying to avoid a lecture on the kinetic motion of gasses in a vacuum and just get to his point about uniform equilibrium. He was actually trying to be kind to the rest of us by not writing a three page treatise on molecular mobility in a vacuum. The thing about gasses in a vacuum was an analogy not a correlation. I’m surprised that someone as “studied” as you didn’t pick that up, it was pretty obvious.

Bill’s comments about the moon and Jupiter as the system cleaner remind me of a (I think it was a Firewall) from probably 2012, near this time of year. There was a lunar eclipse and he had a video about the moon, its role as Earth’s shield, and the question “where is everyone” with similar reasons about how lucky and rare we are.

At present we’re kind of like the passenger standing on the dock who can’t believe his incredibly bad timing at missing the departure of the Titanic.

I find the timing very interesting. Because ya know…
Evangelicals believe that Jesus’ followers will be raptured before the end of the world can come. There is disagreement as to when it will happen (pre-tribulation, mid, or end), but the scriptures support the event. That said, what better way for the NWO to explain how a huge portion of the planet population is gone than alien abduction? Because everyone loves a good alien story!

I took Steve Green up on his recommendation for Simon. There is another Alan Arkin movie which I can recommend, the 1979 action comedy, The Inlaws, with Arkin and Peter Falk as the perfect ‘odd couple’.

Sooo, is the alien interference angle in any of the “Stop the Steal” lawsuits? If not, I do not see what adding it might hurt, since every other reasonable angle has been blown-off by the media and courts anyway…..

For those of you out there that no longer can take a joke….., this IS one!!

This video isn’t about whether or not aliens actually exist, it’s about what people’s reaction to the news that they do exist would be. That said — Some weird stuff comes out of Israel …

Before I say any more let me explain that I have spent some time there. I lived on a Moshav (sort of a less-socialist form of Kibbutz) with Israelis, fought alongside them in the ’81 – ’83 timeframe, and have experienced their nation and culture from a perspective that only total immersion can provide. I love and admire those people as a people. I’m not Jewish, btw, I grew up Nordic Lutheran and now consider myself more of an Evangelical with strong sympathies towards Messianic Jews.

That said, there’s still some weird stuff that comes out of Israel. From the perspective of an Israeli citizen living in the Nation of Israel, hard information is challenging to sift out of the background noise. They live in a constant state of siege and their government has more control over the media than we’re used to here in America. Even so, a book or article about aliens gets just as much credibility as a hard science paper from MIT or Stanford. It’s hard for Israelis to know exactly what to believe and that might have some foundation in their rightfully justifiable paranoia about being wiped out and driven into the sea.

So I can forgive this Israeli space security program guy while not crediting his opinions as having any validity at all. Israel has about the same proportion per capita of conspiracy nuts as the rest of the planet but because it is so small demographically that kind of person can rise to a position of responsibility if his performance is otherwise exemplary or even just satisfactory. It’s just that the pool of prospective qualified people is so tiny and you have to keep in mind that the Israeli space security program does very little actual space stuff … This guy was more of an administration cadre than anything else. I’m sure as far as administration goes, he was a very fine administrator.

Notice that he made claims without producing any documentation or material evidence at all. If he really wanted to blow this story wide open to the world and have his claims accorded any credibility at all he would have done that too. This is just one old man’s personal opinion. Feel free to shake your head and move on because without evidence and proof that’s all it is. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

As a boy, I remember reading a science fiction short story about how WE (white people) were aliens that crash landed on Earth and survived to populate this planet over millennia. This story was presented in a very convincing way since this was an exploration survey ship that was damaged by space debris and had no communication equipment that still worked, but could breathe the air and had plenty of provisions to sustain them for an extended period. This story was rejected by the media because it set forth the fact that black people were the true natives of this planet and had descended from Homo Erectus. This story was published in one of those “comic book” rags of the times.

This is the first time I’ve mentioned this story to anybody and my intention is not to start any contivercy or bias in any way. It was an interesting premise at the time.

I read a story like that once. It might have been the same story. It was about a ship approaching Earth and in communication with the people here. As they made their approach the people on the ship were explaining to the people of Earth that they were a long lost remnant of the civilization that the people on the ship were a part of. While they were still quite a way out they explained how this had happened and were detailing many of the advances in technology, medicine and materials that would soon be in possession of the people of Earth as they were a lost remnant who were entitled to those things. They went through all of that and the very last sentence of the story was —

“Oh, one more thing. If any of you are still white we can fix that too!”

It was an intriguing, thought provoking story. The people in the ship considered white skin color to be a defect and an illness, does that make them racists? The people of Earth likely never even considered that the people in the ship were all black. Does that make them racists or the opposite?

The story seemed to me a commentary on the inconsequential nature of skin pigmentation being magnified to excess. I was always taught, and still believe, that skin color is as inconsequential as eye or hair color. I just cannot be bothered to care about it at all. Culture is a completely different matter, there are cultures I despise but superficial coloration means nothing to me at all.

I’d only ever read that one story with that premise and it stuck with me because it was such a blatant accentuation of racial differences in hide pigmentation that I felt an advanced civilization would be well past such silliness by the time they came knocking at our door. If hide pigmentation were important they’d either do what they did and homogenize skin color or destroy the type they didn’t approve of and thought of as a defect or disease. Either way is problematic.

Personally I liked the Star Trek episode with the two “racists” eternally at war and trying to destroy each other because one was black on the left side and white on the right side and the other was a mirror image with the pigmented sides swapped. That was a better story as it demonstrated the triviality of such things.

I would be very suspicious of a race claiming to be our progenitors that cared one way or another about hide pigmentation. For my part they would not be welcome on our planet no matter what advantages they offered because that would betray a very deep-seated flaw in their character and thought.

There are plenty of good reasons not to like some people (or aliens probably) but plumage isn’t one of them.

Thanks, that was a fun read, I read all three parts of it and bookmarked it to go back and check out the larger work.

I don’t know where The Guys got their idea, the story I’m talking about is over 40 years old. I’m not even sure how we got on this topic considering the content and context of my original post but that’s no matter. It’s always good having conversations with friends.

Especially during the Holiday Season. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Just a planned “fake” leak in order to create a steady stream of distraction in order to justify more looting from tax payers for black ops space programs.

If that’s what this is, and I don’t think so, then it didn’t work. I was not distracted even a tiny bit from bigger issues and I seriously doubt anyone else who’s paying attention was either. In fact if Scott Ott hadn’t stumbled across this article and made it known to us I probably would never have heard of it. Which makes it a very poor effort at distraction indeed.

Intelligent life is pretty damn rare on this planet and getting rarer by the day – except in China. (And my dog, who pretends to be thick because he is so smart he knows better than to show me …)

Agree with all said about the miracle of intelligent life yet it is amazing how we treat it.
The basis for the intelligent life is the complex abilities of the human mind but all the aspects of civilization are designed to destroy the minds of the children and turn them into puppets of authority.
Understandable why ‘aliens’ want to remain hidden from us.

I would welcome contact with intelligent life not of this earth. Their experiences and achievements would be intensely interesting. I would dare say that they would go a long ways to helping insure the future of our species. And I would expect them to be conservatives.LOL

I respectfully disagree strongly.

Having the world “rescued” by aliens is a misplaced Messiah Complex.

The best hope for mankind is true Americanism. If we can get back to that and then lead the planet to follow, that would be the optimum outcome.

An alien race with the technologically advanced capacity to bridge interstellar distances would be far beyond our ability to deny them a leadership role. If we even tried. As long as their stated purpose was benevolent and their actions agreed with their stated purpose it is doubtful that there would be any useful human resistance. Even now, people want things done for them and want to blame someone else when they don’t succeed … Alien benefactors would accelerate not negate that tendency. The flock would be pacified (and perhaps in comfortable, benevolent manner) while the elite that figured out a way to take advantage would have a nearly unbreakable grasp on the populace.

The biggest, most obvious consequence for humanity would be a form of globalism. You could kiss our beloved Republic good-bye. We may or may not be able to wrest this nation back from the Left but we would have orders of magnitude more difficulty doing that with technologically advanced Aliens, no matter how beneficent they seem to be.

“If the cosmic phone rings, don’t answer it.” -Stephen Hawking.

I did not imply being rescued. Simply knowing of their existence would be enough to know that we can have a future.
I do agree that we would have to do it on our own. All we have to do is answer the phone and say hello. I, for one, would rather dare than shrink.

I, for one, would rather dare than shrink.

Good for you, Sport. How very bold of you to gamble with the future of our species. This is all hypothetical but I’m not sure I’m comfortable with you speaking for the whole human race. One thing I am sure of is that I’m glad you’re not going to be in charge of dealing with something like an alien encounter.

My experience taught me to be a little more circumspect about risks and I’ve seen more than my share of risk. One of the many things I learned was to consider anything I don’t understand to be a threat until I can be sure it’s not. I’m not stupid and I understand as much or more than most people. That’s a big reason why I’m still alive and sitting here discussing this with you on the internet. My memory still contains vivid images of people who failed to learn that lesson when in gravest extreme.

If you think I’m timid, you’re mistaken, I’m not likely to be “shrinking” from anything. Including you, btw.

So you’ll have to forgive me if I’m not so bold as to blithely welcome with open arms a potential alien race with demonstrated technology we have no way to even dream of countering.

Even if they got here by means of sub-light technology, that would require a power source we have no inkling of and would not understand and that’s JUST for propulsion. The twin turbo-ramjets in your avatar picture would be like a Zippo lighter compared to a 4th generation nuclear reactor to them. Unless they’re willing to immediately surrender their ship and grant us access to study its power systems and armament I can see no reason to bestow the least bit of trust on them and even then … I don’t think we could fully trust them or their motivations. They probably wouldn’t do that unless they had the means to kill every human aboard and take back their ship. I know I wouldn’t.

Trust is something that has to be earned and earning it takes time. If I wouldn’t trust the Russians or the Iranians, and I don’t, I see no reason to trust an alien species just because they show up with analogous smiles on their analogous faces. The very idea is absurd naïveté. Assuming unproved, unfounded benevolence is ridiculous

The fact is that they may be benevolent. I’m not saying that we don’t give them opportunity to prove that and start lobbing nukes at them but if that’s the case … We really don’t have any choice but to give that chance to them. We should be preparing as best we can in the meanwhile in case they’re not so benevolent as they would like us to believe.

With what little we know right now they may be xenophobic and can’t stand the sight of us. Exploration does not guarantee a tolerance of “the other”. They might not be xenophobic but look at us and decide we’re likely to become a pox on the galaxy and the best course of action is just to sterilize the planet and move on. There is no information that justifies a course of action either friendly or hostile.

So I’m not saying that we start shooting first …

In military matters you access the threat of a foe by his capabilities not his intentions because intentions can be and as a rule are falsified up to the point where actions leave no doubt. I’m not talking about being openly hostile, I’m talking about dealing with potential threat capabilities. That beings are capable of interstellar travel on any level is a huge capability and as such a huge potential threat.

There’s no reason to believe that if we became aware of an alien civilization that “would be enough to know that we can have a future”. There just isn’t sufficient information to come to such a conclusion. Indeed, with the available information sparse as it is, there’s at least a 50/50 chance that encountering such beings would be the end of any future we might have had. Alien motivations may be, and very likely would be, unfathomable to us. There can be no doubt that there would be things we do that are unfathomable to them too. The idea that we’re all on the same page and that page is the advancement of mankind is pure Pollyanna-ism.

It’s also my experience that people will say just about anything and the phony bold aren’t really bold at all when it comes down to the crap impacting the air circulation device. It’s one thing to say whatever, it’s a completely different matter to know which way to move when the manure starts falling. I see you as one of those phony bold people unless you can provide some sort of argument with more substance other than how brave you believe you would be.

Get this straight. I’m not slagging on you to be troll. YOU insinuated I was the kind of person to “shrink” from something. YOU insinuated that you’re somehow very brave and my well considered opinion somehow makes me cowardly. That’s freakin’ insulting as hell to someone like me and not a wise thing to do if you want civility. I’m not a bit cowardly and I’m making the point sans gentility, you implied I’m some sort of chickenshit and that means I do not owe you any civility.

It looks to me like you haven’t really thought this out very far and I know I have.

My experience in life has taught me to hope for the best and plan for the worst. That seems to me to apply by multiples of order-of-magnitude for an unknown quantity like alien beings. That’s not “shrinking” it’s hard learned wisdom in action.

So no, I don’t think that if the cosmic phone rings we should pick it up and say “Hello”. I think we should play dumb (literally) and once aware of such a situation make every effort to learn more. Don’t shoot first, but don’t act like some sort of puppy glad that his master has come home either. Because without more information we have no idea we’re not going to become that puppy ourselves.

I am sorry that you read so much into my brief reply of my opinion. I respect your opinions and respectively decline to get into a manure throwing contest.
Live long and prosper my friend.

Why thank you and also a Merry Christmas to you.

Try to avoid implying that people you don’t know are cowardly shrinking types, it’s not a good look on you. Because if you “dare” and I “shrink” that’s exactly what you did, intentionally or not. If not, you might want to pay more attention to how you say things. I can only go by what you say and have no way to interpret what you mean outside of that. Getting things across the way you mean them is more difficult in text than in face-to-face personal contact.

Again, apology accepted and returned in the same spirit. You happened to hit a nerve and I’m more than willing to cede that it wasn’t actually intended the way I took it. I’m sorry if I misinterpreted your attitude.

I suppose it would be a coin flip whether they are the Star Trek “don’t interfere” or “advanced past selfishness” types… or the ID4 “locusts, moving from planet to planet” kind. or Vogons. I think we could really skip the Vogons.

If life on earth is any indication, predator are generally the highest on the food-chain and the also the most intelligent. It seems reasonable to expect that aliens that come here are likely to be predators.

Bill’s point about the uniqueness of diversified life here on earth is a great insight. The even more unlikely event is the transistion between inorganic matter and life. The more we have come to know about the complexity and specificity of the DNA information mapping and the incredibly complex machinery inside a single cell, the more astounding this event becomes.
I am a believer in intelligent design as the most likely sufficient cause of life and the universe(s) creation. I recommend “The Mystery of Life’s Origin” by Thaxton, Bradley et al for those of a scientific bent. Even those not highly versed in science can appreciate this presentation of the unique nature of the creation of life. For those wanting a good video presentation of the ideas here is a link to one:
https://www.discovery.org/v/mystery-of-lifes-origin/
The point about the possibility of other places of life is certainly made more likely under conditions of intelligent design. My hunch is that the designer has had his hands full with project Earth and may have decided to work on us rather than franchise.

THIS episode is why I so enjoy this site. The perspectives and analysis of all the various topics covered are precious relief to the weary soul.
God bless you all.

I was just about to say the same thing. Aliens among us? Only the ones of which Scott speaks. Actually, sometimes I feel like I’m the alien, but only until I come to this site and find my people.

If it’s a choice between aliens and the Globalists who’ve scored some phenomenal victories in 2020…. Then I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords.

I’m thinking the globalists ARE the aliens! How else do you explain George Soros and Pope Francis and the Great Reset?

A wise man once told me that any alien civilization less advanced than uwe are would not be able to find us.
Any alien civilization more advanced than we are would take one look at us and fly on by.

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