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An Inconvenient Truth: 24-1

The US Women’s team entered a smallish tournament against male players and the result, after three games, was Males 24, Females 1. Awkward.

The US Women’s Soccer Team actually sued over the pay gap between themselves and the US male team; this case was thrown out of court for the obvious reason that the men brought in vastly more revenue. Despite this setback, they brought enough political pressure to ensure that the women ended up receiving the same paychecks as the men. It’s possible this lead them to believe they were as good as the men, because the US Women’s team entered a smallish tournament against male players and the result, after three games, was Males 24, Females 1. Awkward. 

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42 replies on “An Inconvenient Truth: 24-1”

Market forces are insufficient to counteract the influence of Satan’s deep pockets. The sewer rats are following their “god” and are paid his temporal wages.

Actually the Tulip mania may not have been as mad as it seemed. It financed the building of ships. These went out looking for new and interesting tulips. Spain, Portugal and the other sea powers thought that’s silly and ignored them and before you know it the Netherlands has colonies everywhere. None of them had tulips but they had other valuable resources. They captured the east indies from the Portuguese and a moslem dictator very quickly. It may have all been a ruse.
In an earlier era, 1300 AD, there was a rose boom in the Mediterranean area that served another purpose. The rose merchants were spy’s for the European nobles surveilling the Muslim world.

Agreed that the real job is to draw eyeballs but the reason is distraction. All sports are promoted by authority so that people will pay attention to the sports and not pay attention to the actions of authority.

Well done Gents. The women in these sports won’t know how good they had it when it’s gone. Another case of ingratitude run amuck. Cuz they are lefties whether they know it or not, perhaps they will wake up and remember that being a woman is pretty remarkable and we men love them and want them to succeed. No matter what lies they are told.

That was several years ago. Bill has told that story a few times over the years. Surprised he didn’t bring it up again.
But yes, my recollection is that the 17 year olds beat the adult women pretty handily.

Someone put this back out there after today’s Senate hearing.
It was 6 years ago

I was skeptical of this story when I first heard of it, but CBS wouldn’t lie to us, would they?

Not in that direction. They’d have a title about how the women’s team let the young boys win.

When conception occurs the product is XX or XY. If that “offends” you, then XY or XX. Each plays ONLY with others of their own chromosome pool. Simple, simple, simple. Only alleged “intellectuals” can possible make anything so simple so difficulty.

… which is an abnormality. Normality is a liability only to those who prefer the abnormal.

That and the “frogs sometimes switch if there are too few of one sex” seem to be the arguments used by some. The problem with that argument to me is none of the people claimed as trans are a three chromosome rarity. They’re all two that want special treatment.

Yeah, that’s the problem when they try to say “but in nature…” because we’re not frogs. As much as the XXY is possible but rare, so is the frog switching thing.
I probably shouldn’t suggest this, but if someone wanted to switch to an all fly diet, then I would let him compete as a her in sports.

Yeah, the push by the UN on bug diets is why I don’t know if that would be a good requirement. I would not care how many bugs a froggish sex changer would eat, but as a non-frog our bodies need more and varied nutrition than a fly provides. If however they are an actual amphibian they can both change sex and eat flies, proving themselves correct.

I do not hold out much hope for that, however.

Key word there, Harry, “VERY” rarely. There’s outliers in everything, and they should be accepted exactly as what they are – outliers, IOW, not the norm.

Remember when John McEnroe endured the hostility for suggesting that Serena Williams was maybe the 700th best tennis player in the world? It takes a McEnroe to stand up to the utopians.

I remember when Martina Navratilova said he was correct and then came back a couple weeks or months later after being almost canceled and having been re-educated.
Let’s not forget that it was Martina who helped Renee Richards compete as a woman in the mid 70s when Dr. Richards was in his 30s but had gone full surgery.
A not close to pro quality male tennis player he was able to compete against females even though 32 is ancient for female tennis players.
If anyone deserved to have her own opinion on this subject it was Martina but nope, it was deemed apostasy.

I think she’s also one of those tagged at TERFs while being an early women’s proponent and lesbian.. but that’s not good enough these days.

Women’s times in the 200-backstroke and 200-IM are now better than the times I posted that got me invited to Collegiate Nationals oh so many years ago. Now please excuse me while I go and look for a pink Polo shirt to wear while I sip Chardonnay and read a romance novel. To think back when the star of the girls team couldn’t beat me in her best stroke – butterfly – when she was wearing huge flippers!

This may be true and shows the improvement in the training and athletes rising. But pray tell what have men’s times done in the same time frame? Without checking I would say that they have also improved substantially.
I would hazard a guess that were a male swimmer who was also good enough to be invited to collegiate nationals swam against a female in her best event, the results might be similar.
OK – I checked a few datum. Since 1976 when the first sub 2 minute 200m backstroke (long course) the record has come down by 8 seconds (6.6%)
Since the same year, the women’s record has come down a tick over 9 seconds. (6.8%)
The delta in 1976 was 13.28 seconds (an East German female swimmer!)
The delta now 11.22 seconds. Gap narrowing but still substantial. App 10%
The Last US record holder was Regan Smith from Stanford who is 5’7″ 123#.

You are correct. BTW, that East German woman had a mustache and a “bulge”.

Yep, East German Women in the Olympics were the reason doping and testing came about. Had to dope to compete then the international agencies cracked down.
Ironic that now anything goes. Really can’t believe that cycling of all sports is allowing men to race against women as long as their testosterone is not TOO high.

Men’s professional cycling may be the dirtiest sport ever in terms of pharmaceuticals and blood doping.

Absolutely. Wasn’t it something like 9 in a row Tour winners that were ultimately implicated. And no one was really clean.
Have a friend that was a MLB player in the late 80s. He says the % of users was well over 50%. Makes no bones that when he went overseas it extended his career.
People get all bent out of shape about that but just smile at men beating women. It is mind-boggling.

BTW – I know you are not advocating that men and women are the same just pointing out the improvement and I agree that there is improvement for both men and women.

The issue is simple- men watch sports. And they want to see people who can do things they cannot do. I watched some if the national track and field championships a couple of weeks ago. I realized I could have won a lot of the women’s events when I was in high school. And I wasn’t a national level contender. But I did find the women’s events an interesting side attraction.

I used to really enjoy watching women’s curling…Good stuff…errr I mean good sporting event.

There are women’s sports which generate a lot of interest and revenue. Olympic women’s figure skating and women’s gymnastics come to mind. These are prime time, heavily covered events which sponsors will pay for through the nose. And these athletes are making money by hook or by crook, praying they can get cash to be on a Wheaties cereal box or an ad going to Disneyland. There is no lucrative post-amateur career for these women, and that is pretty unfair in the grand scheme of things.
ESPN is force feeding us women’s professional basketball, and the product is improving. The skill level of the players is phenomenal and improving. Money from ESPN has made it where they no longer need two jobs to eat. But they still have a long way to go to fill arenas with fans. I doubt many teams are doing great financially. But the trend upward is promising.
All that said, I think about men’s lacrosse, at one time (when my kids were travel team stars) my favorite spectator sport. There was a lot of momentum as more and more families enrolled their kids. Professional Lacrosse is now a thing. But the players aren’t making much money and the teams are barely alive, again with ESPN money supporting the concept, seeing if it catches on. But lacrosse and the mojo that enabled the league is only treading water. Hockey has got more eyes, even down South where we live.
Sanity, I mean economic sanity, will win out. I’m barely catching a lacrosse match and my sons don’t care to watch either. My grandson’s are being groomed for baseball. It’s almost like they don’t remember leaving baseball for lacrosse and never looking back. Lacrosse is way more fun. Girls lacrosse is more fun to watch than baseball.
Pro Lacrosse players aren’t asking for more $$$ because they see what’s happening and they are grounded in reality.

Yea, my first thought when Bill said that was there would be Men’s Sports, Trans Sports and Girls Gymnastics and Skating.
Though I would say that women’s track and field events are fun to watch because of the even level of competition. If I watch a women’s sprint, I don’t compare their times in my head to the men’s times, I compare them to each other. When you see a dude beat the second place runner by 20 + feet in a short race, that is boring. It would be boring if they were both women but Flo-Jo was clearly an exception.
I agree that Lacrosse is more fun to play, if you have some speed. I did not so I played baseball. I wish now I would have played golf since I would have been much better at that throughout my life.
Women’s golf is interesting. I sometimes watch them play as they play a game of which I am more familiar. Generally speaking, I hit my irons a similar distance so it is more relatable. Of course I am almost 60 and can barely wipe my own backside my shoulders hurt so badly. But I could still compete for distance. Not for score or consistency, but I have played recently with some college ladies and I did not embarrass myself.
Against a high school boys player I am easily 30 yds behind. It is not the same game.
And while Women’s basketball is much improved, especially at the college level, that means there are 10-12 good teams rather than 2 or 3. I still find the athleticism to be far behind. But there is definitely no shortage of it to watch.

I wonder how much of the women’s sport financial curve will match the men’s pro sports even with the disparity of time. Male pro athletes did not make much money in the 60s and would often get off-season jobs when their sports were just not as popular and ticket prices were not stupid high like now.

Womens sports are often described as being more techincal and less flashy since the women do not have the athleticism for the big replay video type actions that men can do. I have read about men needing to be more careful, especially in football before we over-protected everyone, and wonder if women in the WNBA are as much hampered by their lack of skill as much as their inability to dunk and make three point bombs as is the NBA fad now. There are people that say they don’t like to watch the men pros for that reason and stick with the college games which they find more entertaining as actual basketball and not pampered stars. Are the women just marketing themselves to the wrong kind of audience?

Something else that I am sure is a factor, but not as much discussed, is the amount of entertainment we have across all types now. No longer are we restricted to the Big Three Networks and their choice of “football will be on Sunday afternoon” lineup. ESPN has how many channels just for sports, plus movie channels, METV type channels for shows from the 60s and 70s in reruns, Apple, Amazon, BBC/Britbox, Disney, Hulu, Netflix, ROKU and probably another dozen companies making their own sitcoms,movies and specials for us to watch when we’re done with the half million channels on Youtube. There is just too much, and now you want me to care about celebs I don’t know playing a game I haven’t followed much yet (soccer at least, I care only about my local NBA team and quit paying attention when they were knocked out of the playoffs.)

If the future of sports is Men’s sports, and trans’ sports, then it will eventually devolve down to just men’s sports, because nobody, but nobody wants to watch a bunch of mediocre wussies kicking a ball around.

Where are the parents? I’m surprised this nonsense has lasted this long. The parents we’re counting on to put a stop to this evil garbage, I am afraid, belong to another era.

We are so shocked at the drag queen story hour? I’m shocked at the parents who drag their small children the drag queen story hour!

I think about all those star struck parents who allowed their children to attend sleepovers at Michael Jackson’s house. What were they thinking?

Lotta crappy parenting out there. I could go on, and on.

Remember Monica Lewinsky? You know what really shocked me about the whole affair? It was the reaction of Daddy Lewinsky. “Ken Starr is out of control!” he said. I can’t help but think if that had been me, first of all, Dad would have been thoroughly disgusted with my behavior. Secondly, there’s a good chance he would have spent his final years in jail for attempted assault on a sitting president. But he was a fighter pilot, and an ace in WWII, and from a whole ‘nother generation. He’s been gone now for 18 years. I’m sure I didn’t appreciate him as much growing up as I should have, but for what it’s worth now, Dad, if you can hear me, thanks for being one of the good ones, and Happy Father’s Day.

Maryann – you and I are of like mind on this.
I have no issue with drag performers, the shows can be quite entertaining. But they are in no way kid friendly. To those parents who take their kids where the guys is shaking it around their little tommy or suzy I want to ask, would you be here if this was an actual woman stripper doing this? If not, then why are you here for this?
With Michael Jackson, I remember my wife (who taught little kids for decades) asking in what world is it Ok to have your kid sleep over at an adult man’s house? Whoever that man is.
My daughter’s friends in jr and sr hs would friend me on FB (back then I had an account) I would I would always decline. When my daughter asked I told her that adult men should not be friends with little girls. We should be adults. Then we made sure that she was not friending any of her friends dads. It just is not appropriate.
As to the sports, I am afraid that someone is going to get really hurt before people wake up to this. My daughter would not be on a field with guys. Soccer/lacrosse/ bball – the are all actually contact sports and the difference in 16 year old body composition is too great a risk.

What gives me some hope are many of the drag shows being marketed at kid friendly and some parents complaining afterward that what they saw was not what they expected.

As to parents complaining to school boards about boys competing with their girls, there have been some, but nothing has come from it because either the board members cannot be impeached or the parents are smeared on national TV as bigots and haters in slanted “news” stories. Other parents see that and just don’t bother speaking up. Some former high school students have spoken out now that they have graduated and no retaliation is possible, and I suspect most of them kept competing hoping for a good second or three place showing and a possible scholarship from that or just from a love of the sport.

The reckoning will really be when the various school boards are up for election again in a year to three, depending on board term length. Virginia went red recently and I suspect many others will prune their boards as well… at least if they have candidates to vote for and decent people are not hounded off the ballot.

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