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Feelz Navidad: Watch Grandpa Groomer in this J&B Ad and Yule Wonder ‘What’s in that Scotch?’

A Spanish ad for J&B flips the script on the classic mystique of the scotch drinker, as a dignified old man gets into his wife’s lipstick. But the ad makers are just grooming us for a bigger reveal.

Feelz Navidad: Watch Grandpa Groomer in this J&B Ad and Yule Wonder 'What's in that Scotch?'

A Spanish ad for J&B flips the script on the classic mystique of the scotch drinker, as a dignified old man gets into his wife’s lipstick. But the ad makers are just grooming us for a bigger reveal. Discussing this commercial is thirsty work. Barkeep, what do you have that’s not J&B? 

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51 replies on “Feelz Navidad: Watch Grandpa Groomer in this J&B Ad and Yule Wonder ‘What’s in that Scotch?’”

To Stephen Green:
Decades age, home from college at 22 years old, my father was plugging-in his electric charcoal starter for the barbecue in the back yard. On the menu was a stunning array of rib-eye steaks. While the coals were lighting, we went back into the house. At the wet-bar (which was a nicely concealed area behind cabinet doors in the family room) he asked “What are you drinking?” I replied, “I usually drink Gin & Tonic.” My dad frowned, and poured a generous amount of Chivas Regal into a glass with ice. He added a touch of soda water and said “Try this.” I took a sip and said “That’s really GOOD!”
Shortly after that interaction I discovered single-malt Scotch. The complexity and natural variation is always rewarding. My usual Scotch is Glenlivet 12 or 18 year old. But tonight, I am sipping Jura 10 Year old, based on your recommendation.
Thank you and cheers!!!

So much wrong with this ad. But speaking from an advertising perspective: if the purpose of this ad, as Scott states at 13:30 is to broaden the market for this product, then why at the end when the “Grandfather” raises his glass of J&B does the grandson appear to have a coke and not another glass of J&B? Probably because the ad agency knows this is not a market and the real purpose of this ad is to establish their “Ally” bonafides.
Secondly – and this may expand on Davey Packer’s earlier points but never gets said out loud in this pro-Trans woke-fest:

Not all homosexual young people want to live their lives as the opposite sex!
In my life and travels I have met a rather large number of gay people. Most likely having to do with my family being friends with a large number of performers in NYC during the 70s and 80s. The vast majority of gay people are trying to get out of life exactly what I am, for the most part. They don’t live flambouyantly, don’t dress in drag and if you met them on the street by themselves, you probably wouldn’t know.
(Major exception was the conductor who asked my aunt if I wanted to take private lessons from him to improve my singing. First time I saw the trained military side of my dad that he generally left in Germany. We declined the offer.)
What is the point of my ramblings? Young people need guidance in all aspects of life. This push for all things Trans seems to me to be pushing the envelope of normal behaviour by harming kids who may or may not be gay (who knows at 10) and trying to push them to “become” the other sex, magically.
My wife and I have been watching older sitcoms lately (Aside – the writing on Frasier was really top notch, no surprise as they kept a lot of the Cheers team intact) and watched the first couple of seasons of Will & Grace (we didn’t watch the re-boot).
We commented that if they were to remake this now, the Jack character would have transitioned in HS and be named Jane now. The Will character would be a flambouyant gay man and Grace would be a closeted lesbian.
Leave us kids alone!

I haven’t read all the comments, and yes, I agree with the fact this whole trans thing is a mental illness being normalized by an ever increasing woke cult.But my take on the commercial isn’t that Grandpa is a closet trans or binary or whatever it’s called. What I saw was that Grandpa, who is totally straight, was taking the time to learn how to apply makeup in secret in order to help his grandson come out with the family instead of hiding it. J&B’s message is that this is an act of love on behalf of the Grandpa. I don’t agree with any of it. I’m just saying that comments here indicating that Grandpa is trans who is now grooming his grandson is not how I saw it.

Well, that is an interesting take. Unfortunately, it is wrong in that it misses the fact that the grandfather, regardless of intent, is supporting a lifestyle based upon a mental illness. That in itself can be translated as grooming.

I hear you. You used the word “supporting”, but in reality I would say the Grandpa is enabling his grandson in this mental illness. Maybe a quibble on definitions here, but having years of experience in sponsoring people in 12-step programs there is difference between enabling and grooming. But no argument with your take.

I would appreciate a detailed explanation of the definition differences between enabling and grooming when the intended outcome is the the same: the mentally ill individual is allowed to continue in his delusions, which are generally harmful.

Some random thoughts.
1. The kid’s got a neck tattoo, his judgement is already questionable.
2. If the old chap is the young chap’s grandfather, and the whole idea is “How lucky you are to live your whole life as a painted pooftah, unlike me, your grandad, who had to wait for J&B whisky/Oprah/The EU to free my freak” then this seems a bit self defeating. IF grandad had been “liberated/groomed” in his youth like his grandson, then he/she wouldn’t have had kids in the first bloody place, and the grandson would never have existed
3. As an old poof myself, who has been beaten to the point of hospitalisation in the past, I can be moved by some modern “acceptance” type vids and adds. This wasn’t one of them, it made me squirm. The old (and understandable) connection between pederasty and homosexuality has taken a lot of time and effort to break down, it seems like some “progressives” are trying very hard to re-establish it. I’d dearly love to take the makers of this advert into a dark, quiet alley, and kick the living **** out of them
4. It’s the cow stabbers, who cares?

LOL@ “cow stabbers” …

You have a point. I’m not bloody likely to take moral instruction from people whose singular, uniquely identifiable national characteristic is the gladiatorial exsanguination of domestic bovines for the sporting entertainment of a crowded arena.

As for taking a beating … If you didn’t ask for one and got it anyway then that was wrong. I’m not saying you asked for a beating, I’m merely considering my own personal experience on this topic.

I’m not gay. Not even a tiny bit. Not latently nor any other ridiculous idea often promoted by the more disreputable of that persuasion. Yet …

Several times in my life I have been ‘hit on’ hard by gay men who would not take “piss off” as an answer. That eventually amounts to provocation and when sufficiently provoked at some point I’m absolutely going to go kinetic.

On the other hand, I’m eager to be decent to anyone who’s decent to me. It’s all in the hands of the other person what sort of response they’re going to get from me. Someone being gay does not rise to the level of unpleasantry let alone violence. Generally I try to be civil but I just don’t care enough about a casual acquaintance to have any concerns about someone else’s orientation. I don’t care about orientation, I care about how I’m treated.

I’ve talked to many other former military men on this subject and find that this is not an uncommon experience for them either. This has led me to wonder if there’s some sort of signal military people transmit that is misinterpreted by gay men in casual acquaintance. Or if it’s simply a matter of some gay men letting their lust override their common sense and because I served in the military I have a broader experience than a lot of people and a lot more interaction with other military men.

If I had treated a woman I was interested in the way those men treated me she would absolutely be justified in a combative attitude. The difference being as I am neither gay nor a woman and have extensive training and experience in combative arts — It’s not a good idea to push someone like me to actual combat. Or at least when I was young and fit it was not.

That said, I do not enter into any sort of fight lightly or capriciously. I don’t like fighting even a tiny bit, I’m just good at it. It’s not the same thing. It takes a lot to get me to attack an unarmed civilian. Grabbing my crotch with a sick leer on your face is enough of ‘a lot’ to get you thumped to the point I’m satisfied you won’t make the same mistake with me again.

So I confess, I’ve beaten a gay man or several pretty badly. It never ceases to amaze me how surprised most of them are at getting a reaction like that from me. It’s like they truly didn’t know they were literally begging to have their asses handed to them on a cold platter. It doesn’t matter what they didn’t know because they should have known.

On the other side of that coin, if I was aware that someone like you was being dragged into a dark alley for no other reason than your orientation and I knew you’d done nothing worthy of a beating I would immediately join the fight on your side. It’s not right and it’s not just to let an undeserving person take a beating and just like I won’t countenance being pawed and mauled by someone who can’t control his own impulses and remain civil I won’t countenance that either.

I’m quite aware that there have been gay men who have unjustly and undeservedly had the living crap beaten out of them. That’s just as wrong as the guy who grabbed my crotch and deserves exactly the same response.

Unfortunately it’s the bad apples, gay and straight, that poison the well. My experience has made me hyper aware that there are gay men, not all just a few, who won’t take ‘no’ for an answer. I’d be willing to bet that every single one of them I’ve beaten the living crap out of would say I hurt them because they’re gay. That’s not true, I hurt them because they crossed the line of civility and ignored all the warnings both subtle and overt I was sending.

The Golden Rule is not just some namby-pamby pie-in-the-sky religious doctrine. You demonstrate to others how you demand to be treated by how you treat them. If someone treats me with disrespect and aggression they incur a debt from me to them. A debt I will repay with vigor. Their being gay or not has nothing at all to do with the manner of satisfying that debt.

I just ate lunch so I will not be viewing this atrocity labeled as advertising. I find it to be extremely disturbing and not worth my time to view. Thanks anyways.

I’m not from Spain and I don’t speak Spanish, but if I were, this ad would be a fabulous way to convince me to avoid J&B Scotch like the plague. Thanks, guys. I can now avoid J&B here in the USA.

Two thoughts here.
Firstly I wonder how the company profits are going in Spain, Razorfist has put forth the idea that its go broke, get woke and not the other way around. When they get woke they get money coming in from other places instead of the consumer so it helps them stay in the black for a while.
Secondly as for scotch single malt scotch is for most people, especially in America, an acquired taste because of all the fake sugar and stuff in our food and the mixed drinks Americans are used to. There are some really good entry single malts like Glenmorangie or Glenfiddich that don’t have as complex or heavy a flavor. If you are not used to Scotch its a sipping drink. Sparingly use some distilled water to break the oils away from the alcohol to experience the full range of flavor that it has.

I noticed the kid (xe) is drinking what looks like a coke. Does it also have scotch in it? Think of the uproar if the kid was being approved/introduced to scotch drinking, rather than transgendering…
I first learned a real appreciation of scotch from a Scottish guy. He introduced me to the different tastes from the different parts of the island. The peaty/smoky stuff from the Islas, the lowlands and highlands stuff. And he would wax poetic about the different tastes and why they existed. Been a single malt guy ever since. Cost me thousands of dollars. BUT I never have/never will drink the likes of J&B. Even more so now.
One of the other scotch companies needs to license the rights to Chicago’s song “I’m a Man”. That would be the true comeuppance, and sell a LOT of scotch for them.
Scott’s joke almost made my scotch come out through my nose. That would have hurt. And would have been a waste of good Lagavulin.

Cheap scotch will do that to ya. Beer drinker most of my life, retired now, and it’s Glenmorangie forever. 18 year old or better when I can afford it.

Thanks a lot, Bill!
Notting Hill is one of my favorite movies.
And you just ruined it….
Nice. Real nice.
(And – if you think that nobody drinks Vodka straight, then you don’t know any Russians. Oh. Wait…. Do you and Mrs. Whittle actually ever talk?)

And, by the way… What’s with the Spanish? Not the transgender makeup thing – Spain has a history of flaming appearances. No, Blended Scotch? That’s what they drink in Spain? I don’t think so. They do wine. Not even transgender grooming grandpas are drinking blended Scotch. Nor are their little groomed kiddies…

Glenmorangie and Glenfiddich are really good entry single malts. Sip, use a few milliliters of distilled water to taste (not much) and don’t pour on ice.

I wish there would be just one day where the left would not surprise me with their depravity and how they are so front and center pushing their sickness. Seeing Scott’s reaction for the little bit he saw, says it all. My reaction too. I actually think just being a witness to the sick marketing campaign, is bad for the soul. One of those things you just cannot unsee. Pray for our World.

I’m a grandpa with 8 grandkids. If that thing had shown up at my Christmas Dinner table looking like a poor caricature of a painted Jezebel I would have told him to go wash that shit off his face before he sat down with the rest of us. There’s no way I would have encouraged that kind of behavior let alone abetted it.

When my boys were young the younger one (about 12 years old) had a friend over after school. School got out well before his mom or I got home from work so the kids had a couple hours to kill before any adult walked in the house. This was back in the days when spiked hair accomplished with about a half a jar of Dippity-Doo was all the rage with the young guys.

I got home before my wife and when I walked in there stood two kids with their hair saturated with goop and spiked. They stood there like two deer in the headlights as soon as they saw the expression on my face.

In my best Command Voice (which BTW is capable of making steel ring like a bell) I pointed at my son with a knife hand and said …

“Rain room, NOW!”

Both boys scampered to the bathroom like a couple of demented squirrels and when they came out they had washed all that crap out of their hair which was now neatly combed.

I’m telling you this because kids of any generation need guidance about what is and is not acceptable and because without that guidance they don’t know what is a stupid fad that will make them popular with their peers and what is an undesirable trend to be corrected. Kids have to be molded and shaped not left to run wild in a cultural wilderness.

Spiked hair was not acceptable grooming in my house, as were many other behavioral issues.

If I had just let it go and said “Yeah, cute, you do you.” my son would have gotten the wrong message completely. He wasn’t showing me “who he is”, he was aping stupidity he had seen somewhere outside our home or on TV.

I knew that, he didn’t.

He would grow up and join the Navy by way of an officer preparation program called “BOOST”, be commissioned in June 1999, become a Naval Aviator, serve for 23 years and eventually retire this year as a Commander in the United States Navy. He now makes an excellent salary as pilot for an air ambulance company. He married his high school sweetheart, they’re still married and have given me 4 well adjusted, smart grandkids. If I and his mother had not molded and shaped him for that kind of life I shudder to think what may have happened to him.

My son knows his life was not an accident. He’s responsible for his achievements and I’m very proud of him but as his parents we put him in a position to get to where he is. He knows that and raised his children the same way.

This Spanish ad for J&B Scotch sends the wrong message completely. IF as the ad tries to indicate that young man was so obviously troubled that even grandpa could see it then the trouble was recognizable long before grandpa erroneously decided he would abet it.

That ad ‘family’ is setting itself up for heartbreak and disaster. That young man in the ad (that his grandpa literally groomed) is not living “who he is”, he’s living something he’s not and can never be. That is not a formula for success and happiness, it is a recipe for sorrow and regret.

Had that been my family, I would have been a lot like you. My actions likely would have been:

  1. Punch grandpa right there in front of the kid, so he could see that this was not acceptable- letting grandpa also know we would ahve a talk later. And banned from seeing the kid until he fully apologized.
  2. Sent the kid to the “rain room” as you call it, and lecturing him in front of the rest of the family.

I did not notice it, but where was the kid’s dad? Was the simpering at the table somewhere? Or was he ABSENT as are so many kids this is being foisted upon these days? I refuse th watch that commercial again to see, as I already have brain damage from the first viewing.
I swear, more of this type of crap gets revealed by conservatives making fun of it, and sharing it than actually gets seen by the normal public.

“I swear, more of this type of crap gets revealed by conservatives making fun of it, and sharing it than actually gets seen by the normal public.”

And yet as distasteful as it is, you must see it to really know how satanic things are. A lot of “normal” folks out there can’t believe just how far down the slippery slope we’ve gone because they haven’t seen it. This crap has to be exposed.

Steve, you use the word ‘mystique’ but what you really mean is ‘tradition’.

Being as the Left wants to destroy all of our solid, well founded organic traditions and replace them with cheap fabricated plastic imitations covered in glitter — It then becomes obvious why they would try to emasculate Scotch Whisky.

Sorry, folks, but enough is enough! Episodes like this one help foster and promote the LGBT wokism as much as they attempt to curtail it via satire or ridicule. We need to put this wokeness in its proper place and perspective in our society, i.e., establish reality over delusion, and not let it overwhelm so much of our social and political discussion. America is not racist, homophobic, or transphobic, and there are more important ideas to explore to regain our liberty.

With just a little thought we can summarize the situation as:
LGB is really homosexuality = H; an abnormal sexual orientation evidenced by about 3% of the population (or maybe 10 to12 million people). Perhaps this abnormality is genetic, or a mix of nature and nurture. The science is definitely not quite settled on that, but if your strength of feeling from a heterosexual orientation is what most of us seem to experience, it is not unreasonable to perceive homosexuals have a similar level of “commitment” as heterosexuals, and that it is not a “life choice” for those people with that orientation. It is real for them, even if some heterosexuals would be (natively or naturally) offended or repulsed by sexual advances from a homosexual, potentially rejecting those advances with some force.
Transgenderism is a separate abnormality, T, that less recent (i.e., more reliable) surveys suggest impacts about 0.6% of the population (or 2 million people), some of whom “de-transition” naturally during or after puberty. The ideas around mental illness or other nature or nurture influences are even less well examined for transgenderism than for homosexuality. There is even less reliable science for this domain than for H. But clearly the medical adage “first do no harm” should be more prominent in dealing with this group of (younger) people.

So LGBTQABCXYZ collapses to HT. These people are still human beings (no one here is saying they are not), have the same legal and political rights as everyone else, and are entitled to a level of liberty that does not cause a reduction of liberty for the rest of us. One caveat is that the liberties afforded to adults may justifiably be curtailed when addressing children and teenagers, with parents having a large but not necessarily total voice over whatever actions or treatments are pursued.

There are a number of corollary topics that could be discussed, but I am going to stop with this for now.

“Episodes like this one” do not “help foster and promote the LGBT wokism as much as they attempt to curtail it via satire or ridicule.” The idea is absurd and I notice that you make the proclamation yet do not go on to explain or defend it.

Your entire first paragraph is declarative presented as objective fact which the rest of what you said does not support. In fact, just the opposite. You say this kind of thing isn’t worth our time and attention and then go on to write several paragraphs on it — Committing your own time and attention to the subject.

Those ensuing paragraphs are also largely declarative presented as though they were objective facts. I’m not saying there are no facts at all in what you said, I’m saying that you intersperse your own declarations with facts as though they were all facts. That’s a bit of intellectual dishonesty I’m not willing to swallow whole and unexamined.

You’re right that “We need to put this wokeness in its proper place and perspective …” but ignoring this and not exposing it for criticism and discussion is not a means to “… establish reality over delusion, and not let it overwhelm so much of our social and political discussion.” Just the opposite, ignoring it will absolutely allow it to grow and flourish.

Weeds are any undesirable plant in the field. In a tomato field a cornstalk is a weed and vice versa. There are more important plants in the field than weeds but ignoring the weeds leads gradually and eventually to the loss of the crop.

Society is a field that requires careful tending. It is not sufficient historically to just be aware there are weeds in the field. The weeds themselves must be identified and pointed out so that they can be destroyed.

Postmodern Leftist Social Marxism is a weed. It grows like a weed and it proliferates like a weed. The only way to deal with weeds is to root them up wherever they are found.

It is a logical non-sequitur that simply because there are larger weeds we should ignore the smaller ones. Little weeds grow into big weeds and this one is growing with virulent rapidity.

Or as Steve puts it in the video, this is part and parcel of a ‘full court press’. You stop a full court press by blocking the individual players with your own. You don’t retreat to the basketball net and wait for it to crash into your own players.

If The Guys hadn’t created and aired this episode this would be a weed I would not be aware of. So I’m grateful to them for pointing it out. That’s one of the many reasons I subscribe to this site.

Truthfully, this is just kids who are finding some way to say “hey notice me”. This too shall pass, and be replaced by the next screams for attention. Children are just that way. And some adults are still children.

I disagree. America IS homophobic, transphobic. They are just afraid to admit it, because it has become such a hammer they use as if it was a bad thing. So, now it has become homophobia-phobia. I.e. afraid of being labeled homophobic.
Personally, I just give it to them. Yes, I am Homo/Trans-phobic. You people scare the crap out of me. I fear your constant pressure. I fear the unearned, unjustified power you have attained for such a small percentage of our society. And further, I fear your grooming and recruiting tactics that make me fear for my own children and grandchildren, and following generations.
We must all fight this. And we should all identify as proud homophobes/transphobes. Admit that they scare us, and get over it. All weird people scare me to some extent. Let’s get back to yearning for normalcy.

You’re a homophobe? Really? Are you truly frightened of homosexuals? If so I have to question if you even know what true fear is? Or what the real origin of the threat is?

The word “homophobe” was coined by the militant gay advocacy psychiatrist George Weinberg as a derogatory description aimed at shaming all those who by any degree differentiate between homosexuals and normal heterosexuals.

I won’t wear that label under any circumstances.

I’m not even the least bit afraid of homosexuals of any sort, nor do I fear transexuals, transvestites or any of the rest of the alphabet soup artificially and wrongly clumped together as a “community” for purely political purposes.

There are gay people willing to be lumped together in that political mess but most are not. We have at least one such person here on this site regularly contributing to our discussions and the occasional blog post.

I don’t approve of the gay lifestyle or homosexuality in any of its many guises but that’s really neither here nor there. There are a lot of things I don’t approve of going on with our side of the ideological divide and that’s just one of them. I’m not going to throw out the political baby with the ideological bath water.

If Dave Rubin does something like rent a human female’s reproductive organs so he and his gay lover can buy a baby — That’s bad as far as I’m concerned. If Ben Shapiro or Dennis Prager want to congratulate Dave Rubin on his success in purchasing a human child that is every bit as bad as far as I’m concerned. That said, even though I strongly disapprove of such things I’m not going to throw any of those three under the bus and declare them anathema to Conservatism. Because the net gain reaped by those people far, far outpaces any loss to the political aspects of the war between Leftists and Conservatives.

Everyone is entitled to their own views and our views are never, ever going to be in lockstep. Nor should they be.

If we Conservatives (and Libertarians, which are NOT Conservatives) insist on ideological purity conforming with each our own measure we remain “ideologically pure” but politically weak. We have to have political power to implement our ideology and if we can’t get together on a political position we’re not going to get the power we need for ideological influence. We need to concentrate on political power FIRST then iron out the ideology afterwards. Tragically many of us, including many people commenting here on this site, have those priorities reversed.

The application of the label “homophobe” is a perfect example of our adversaries wielding political force against us.

The real problem is not that there are, as there have always been, homosexuals and other deviations from the social norms. The problem is those people who try to use those outside social normality as a political weapon.

Most of the people who glibly toss around the word “homophobe” are not themselves homosexuals. Most of the people who are now loudly and dangerously advocating the transexualization of children are not themselves transexuals nor would they ever dream of doing something like that to their own children.

We can get a better grasp of the political realities by examining the current Leftist Democrats’ conflation of “transexual” and “transvestite”. Transvestites are not transexual, the vast majority of them are either homosexual or heterosexual men who have a fetish for dressing up like women. It’s a fetish, not a true instance of gender dysphoria. The Democrats treat this fetish as though it were the same thing as dysphoria because doing so creates an easier to wield, more potent, more flashy and flamboyant political weapon than large scale openly embracing the butchery and despicable destruction of children.

Ironically Potato Joe invited a slew of transvestites to the White House to celebrate the passing of an act that ostensibly supports Gay Marriage. I’d be willing to bet that if any only a tiny minority of the transvestite fetishists that participated are married to anyone at all.

Thus the appellation of “homophobe” has all the sincerity of the Left’s constant misuse of the word “racist”. Curiously most Leftists who throw around the word “racist” with complete abandon are themselves more racist in the true sense of the word than anyone they apply the word to.

I’m not a racist and I’m not a homophobe. I refuse to accept those labels under any circumstance. They are a weaponization of language against us and nothing more. To give them credence is to willingly take wounds intentionally inflicted on us by the Left.

Thank you ACTS. I too reject such labels as weak-minded attempts to subjugate me and those who think like me through summary dismissal from society (i.e., cancellation).

So much of the poison of the Left is based on false premise then building from that false premise to militarize and justify their narrative.

The word “homophobe” is a perfect example of that sort of problem.

The Latin suffix “phobe” comes from “phobia”. It means fear. I do not fear homosexuals. Not one tiny bit. Nor am I a ‘homophile’. The Latin suffix “phile” comes from “phila”. It means “love” or “beloved”. It is the antonym of “phobia”. A homophobe fears homosexuals and a homophile loves them. I am neither one and I will not wear a label to that effect either way.

I simply do not see any virtue in signalling a false virtue. I do see the detriment in allowing the Left to dictate my vocabulary.

There are things I do fear. I fear a bad guy with a gun. My solution to that scenario is not to join the bad guy and in my mind transform him into a good guy. It is to neutralize him as quickly as possible and negate the threat he poses.

If I were a homosexual and I’m not, the very last thing I would want to do to people like us is instill fear. Considering my method of overcoming fear is to destroy the very real threat it emanates from … Well you get the idea.

Thus the word “homophobe” applied as a political label to people the Left doesn’t like is wholly counterproductive. It works on weak personalities that are afraid of unjust criticism but it doesn’t work at all on people like us. Just the opposite.

I don’t think Steven Apple fully comprehends this principle of building upon a false premise. Or at least he may not have before I replied to him. If so, that’s OK, we all have to learn sometime and some of us have just had more exposure to non-fallacious arguments than others.

The lie of “homophobia” is crafted to work on people like Steven, that it succeeds in that goal is not surprising.

On the other hand, if Steven Apple chose to assume the mantle that the Left strives so enthusiastically to place on his shoulders then that’s on him. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me — And all that sort of thing.

The only way to counter an argument is to understand it. In understanding it if you discover that it’s based on a lie to begin with the argument is easily defeated. You just have to point out the obvious lie that sits at the root of the argument.

Many people will still cling to the lie. That’s irrelevant because when the lie is pointed out in public discourse many more people will see and acknowledge the lie as a lie than the person who insists on clinging to it.

We’ve yet to see which sort of person Steven Apple is. Whichever way that goes, he can no longer claim the defense of ignorance because I think I laid it out well enough that anyone should be able to understand my point.

I’ll argue my points but I will not argue a lie other than to point to the falsehood the entire premise is based on. When a premise is based on a lie then there’s nothing more to do but continue to argue that the obvious lie is in fact an obvious lie.

Perhaps this nauseating, constantly in your face pushing of depravity and perversion will serve a good purpose – eventually, and I think it’s happening already – people will revolt and the backfire will be awesome!

I hope you’re right, but neither Sodom nor Gomorrah survived. We are well on our way to such an end.

There’s this show touring the country, Drag Queen Christmas, a totally sexualized mockery of the whole idea of Christmas, with characters such as Screwdolf the Red Nippled Reindeer, and more. There are folks (I suppose parents) bringing young children to this abomination!

Some rapper who calls himself The-Dream, lets his 12 year old daughter show up at another rapper’s (Diddy) birthday party, (so I have to assume it’s an adult party, and what is a 12 year old doping there anyway?) dressed like a whore.

You can see clips on Candace Owens show, if you think you can stomach it, here, beginning around 25 minute mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekRd7USoiUk

So there is some push back, but not nearly enough yet; and look how far things had to get to the point where people are pushing back. Look at what some parents are willing to do to their own children. It’s child abuse, and it’s satanic.

So I hope you are right, and that the rebellion is coming; but don’t kid yourself and think it’s not going to be violent. We’ve let it go to far for this to end peacefully.

It’s a spiritual war, and needs to be fought with much prayer.

Does the ad give this thought as an undercurrent: Grandpa always thought he wanted to be a woman and wear make-up, etc. He spent his life secretly wearing women’s underwear frustrated that he didn’t come out of the closet. Now he sees his grandson struggling with the same urge and as his own life is closing, he will “valiantly” help his grandson realize the homosexual “fever dream!!” Maybe he even groomed and molested the kid when he was growing up.
That old man is a pathetic debauched virtue signaling character. This is a garbage ad to sell hard booze to young people. Scott is right. More homosexuals will now drink the hard stuff and help make more money for liquor companies to compete with the hard drugs they need to use to live their dysfunctional lives.

I will not watch the ad again to see, but I ask again- where is the kid’s father? And why did he not punch the grandpa right there and be done with this debauchery?

Without Judeo-Christian morality, the United States falls apart. Capitalism works best with contracts and trust. Family is the basis of Western civilization. The “have-nots” only let the “haves” keep their stuff because of their underlying ethics.
All are under attack so we can have socialism/big government.

Spain was one of the first European to approve gay marriage, I think. This alphabet ad may be all right with the Spanish demographic. I hope I’m wrong though.

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