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‘Joker’ Slammed for Song That’s Played by Every High School Band, Penned by Pedophile

Gary Glitter’s classic song ‘Rock and Roll Part 2’ plays in a key scene of the new ‘Joker’ movie with Joaquin Phoenix. An outcry arises over its inclusion because Mr. Glitter (AKA Paul Francis Gadd) is a convicted pedophile. But that same iconic tune is on the playlist of nearly every high school and college marching band in the nation.

'Joker' Slammed for Song That's Played by Every High School Band, Penned by Pedophile

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Gary Glitter’s classic song ‘Rock and Roll Part 2’ plays in a key scene of the new ‘Joker’ movie with Joaquin Phoenix. An outcry arises over its inclusion because Mr. Glitter (AKA Paul Francis Gadd) is a convicted pedophile. But that same iconic tune is on the playlist of nearly every high school and college marching band in the nation. Can we hate the sin, but love the hit single? Does this social justice warrior (SJW) protest of a decades-old song merely demonstrate the dearth of actual injustice? Are high school marching bands their next targets?

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Or Elton John. Back when he was pretending he liked girls he made some pretty good music. Still listen to today. Will not stop l;istening to Saturday Night’s All Right For Fighting just because he is now totally gay.

Just to let everyone know, Gary Glitter sold his rights to his songs a long time ago. He receives ZERO money when people play that song. ZIP. ZILCH! I think he’s still in jail…. and broke

When it comes to are dear left leaning authoritarians one must ask “what is the REAL reason?” and I think I got it. We as a society abhor the whole “memory hole” concept. But if you can say “So in so was a (enter offence here)” then you are free to destroy a part of our collective memory almost with out issue. What do you think?

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If you can show me one lefty that has never ever sinned, then maybe I’ll care. Probably not, but it’s a great challenge to throw at them. I spent way too many nights in the Hollywood dance clubs dancing to Rock and Roll Part 2 in the late 70s and early 80s and had a blast. I see no reason to stop liking the song. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to Fandango tickets to The Joker as I haven’t seen it yet.

Something else that has come up in regards to movies and TV shows (and to a lesser extent music) is that the art was usually not the creation of a single individual and excising the art from society also harms everyone else that was involved. I suspect some leftist types might seek to compensate those people from the public purse, but as long as the art is not connected with the actions of the “monster” I think keeping the art in society (with whatever disclaimer is necessary) is better for society as a whole and for all of the other co-creators.

I always enjoyed John Lennon’s music. I did not approve of his politics or lifestyle, but you cannot deny the talent that he offered.

The descending the stairs dance reminded me of The Dude in The Big Lebowski dream sequence.

This movie also caused a resurfacing of the old & bad Gary Glitter joke.
Gray’s favorite note… A Minor

Imagine this:

You invested a million dollars with Jeffrey Epstein’s fund management and it turned into 2 million dollars.

1 – It’s OK because you did that before 2008 when he was convicted for pedophilia.

2 – It’s not OK because you did that investment after his conviction in 2012.

So It’s all OK with y’all because it is the nature of the work itself, not the ethics of the individual.

When you speak about not wanting to know what a movie star did that was ethically unpleasant to you, it is ok to contribute your dollars to that person, as long as you can close your ears to the truth … DON’T tell me WHAT they did so I can still like WHAT they are doing to entertain me.

Let the work stand on it’s own .. WHY do the ‘arts’ get that as a pass. What other occupations do you give that pass to?

Sorry but you guys are totally on the wrong side

Just my opinion

Fund management isn’t art. And the Truth does not need a pure messenger.
Investing with a corrupt or destructive force for the sake of profit isn’t the same as appreciating music.

I understand your point, Sandra. Unfortunately, I have placed every penny I’ve ever expended into the hands of sinful human beings. And, for their part, those sellers have received each of those pennies from the hands of a fellow sinner. If I were to withhold my dollars based on some theory of sin thresholds or hierarchies, I would sit atop a mountain of coin not able even to invest it in myself.

Scott – I get what you’re sayin’, but I do try not to give my money to those I Know are in direct conflict with my beliefs. I look for an alternative when I can or I just don’t use certain products…. Of course I can not know the minds of corporations or the people in them, but when they make it known and overt, then I can make and easy decision…. I know it’s getting tougher everyday, but we have to keep our eyes open.. Just sayin’

I can’t believe it… I was a teen in the 70’s and thought I was a conisour of all things rock & roll of the 60’s and 70’s, but I’ve never heard this song! (?) I knew of Gary Glitter by name, but never heard/saw him in action (back then, the only way to ‘see’ them was in a rock concert, which unfortunately – or fortunately – I could never afford).
Having watched a YouTube of the song in action – at my advanced age – I decided that I hadn’t missed much…

From a past column of mine:
Columnist Richard Cohen wrote: “(Democratic political boss Richard) Daley was a masterful politician, while not always an admirable man. His bigotry was ecumenical — blacks,Jews, etc. — and he was lip-read at the chaotic 1968 Democratic National Convention hurling Fbombs up at Sen. Abraham Ribicoff on the podium, calling him “you Jew son of a bitch.” Yet, Daley served a purpose. He policed the Democratic Party.” (Lewiston Tribune, May 11)

Policed it of whom? Not bigots, apparently.

“OK, OK, the bosses were sometimes vile and sometimes corrupt.” adds Cohen.

Sometimes? The status of political boss is by nature anti-liberty and corrupt. “Bossism” is one of the social ills the Progressive movement was formed to eradicate.

Also columnist Cohen on the “de-personing” of singer Kate Smith — a woman who raised more than half -million dollars in war bonds to fight Hitler and Tojo — over two “race songs” in her repertoire:
“We cannot enslave the present by forcing it to honor the dishonorable past.” (Lewiston Tribune, April 29)

How can Cohen repudiate Kate Smith about two songs while embracing corrupt bigot Boss Daley?

Simple. Smith was seen as a creature of the American Right; Daley was a Democrat.

As one who does not and never will condone the sexual choices of homosexuals, I still think that Elton John has always been a brilliant musician who produced wonderful works of art. This is neither contradictory nor hypocritical on my part.

While it is often difficult, we must strive to judge art separately from the artist or to judge the actor separately from the act.

Our understanding of the artist should be only to learn more to appreciate his/her art, not to pass judgement on the artist.
He who is without sin should cast the first stone…
We all are sinners, some more, some less, and must answer to God, not to other people (unless we commit a crime). That’s my option, at least.
I, too, loved Elton John in my youth, even after learning of his ‘proclivities’. They only served to make me love him more…
Seeing the humanity in another person, famous or not, reminds us of our own humanity.

OK, since I think that Cosby dentist skit is brilliant, I am going to have to spend lunch today watching Ren & Stimpy.

What would hockey be like without Gary Glitter’s song? Are we going to stop showing any movie that Harvey Weinstein had a hand in? Oh, I doubt THAT. SJW’s are sort of like PETA activists that will throw paint on an old lady in fur, but be strangely reluctant to confront Hell’s Angels about their leather jackets. Gary Glitter’s song would be possible to expunge, but Weinstein’s legacy would hurt a lot of people financially.

Artists’ flawed characters present an interesting and persistent dilemma.

Visual art elicits a visceral reaction, perhaps because we see the artist’s viewpoint instinctively. Although it is quite easy to be led to extol the emperor’s clothes.

The easiest literary case for me to present is Roald Dahl. He is the author of CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY, MATILDA, and JAMES AND THE GIANT PEACH. Why he is beloved is beyond me. All of his stories involve horrible parents and abusive authority figures all around, with the exception of one. The caring one who becomes the only one the child can trust. It is practically a primer on grooming children for pedophiles. Maybe it is because my parents were teachers that we always discussed movies and books, looking for who the admirable characters were, what the underlying messages were, and the values expressed. Certainly the kids who were brought up loving these stories did not have adults near by able to discern the rotten messaging in these books/movies.

Popular music is another interesting case. When my daughter was a teenager, we would be listening the the seventies channel and I would ask her to be mindful of the lyrics. I pointed out that they were very up front with the plan: They see a woman. She is hot. He tells his friends he has to have her. He does everything he can to get with her. He then tells her regretfully they must part. And that she’ll be a happy memory for him. And they put it to great music that inspires women literally to dance to their tune. My daughter later said, “Thanks for ruining it for me.” Apply the same principle to rap. Shudder.

Another mind bender: GREASE, the family movie. If you want happiness, hold on to your identity. Then, just as the man develops integrity, slut it up and slide back downhill together.

But this would be my point: we are responsible for what we allow brainspace in our heads. You may not be able to access everything that went in, but it is in deep storage. It is in the mix of your viewpoint. So perhaps it is in our best interests to at least consider the character of the artist. I still can’t help dancing to “Brick House”. And there are days I would love to put the Happy Helmet on my husband.

I guess it is a little like hating Trump for his character, no matter what he does right. It’s just a little weird that it doesn’t seem to touch Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, etc, etc, etc.

Oh, the lefties have moral superiority, virtue signaling and all that, they don’t need to actually be moral!

if Lefties want to be taken seriously on this issue, they can start by memory holing everything Roman Polanksi did. While we’re at it, how about giving Peter Fonda the Roseanne treatment for calling for the president’s son to be gang raped by pedophiles?

Wait a minute – is The Radical Left now against pedophilia? I know they had a brief flirtation with being on the right side of history when they needed it to take down Milo. I’m sure that once Joker leaves the theaters they’ll be back to normal.

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