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Leadership? With COVID-19, Trump Violates the Principle of ‘Maximal Risk Aversion’

Heather MacDonald, the last living journalist, says the mainstream media has come unhinged over President Trump’s reaction to COVID-19 because it’s “a violation of maximal risk aversion” — a condition Bill Whittle calls “cowardice.”

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We do not need the government to babysit for us; the government is not our parent. The internet makes information available to anyone who wants to dig in and do the research. Thereby we will have the facts available about the “risk” of any given occurrence. Then it is our right and responsibility to personally assess and act on the information we have (if it isn’t or can’t be complete, we make the best assessment we can and move forward).

Part of the left/marxist plan is to dehumanize people. To the point that mourning is no longer a necessary process of life. It blends in with ‘maximal risk aversion’.
Aldous Huxley explained it in “Brave New World”.

It kinda makes me wonder if the Kung Flu virus was not released to cull the older people in the world so they won’t be a burden to anyone, especially the governments that help support them. The standing stones in the state of Georgia are engraved with a sentence that the perfect population of the Earth is 90% of what it is currently. Why not start eliminating the “unwanteds” from oldest on down? Just wondering.

I have thought for a long time that things are happening to get rid of the old folks, of which I am one. Obamacare was a good start, by O’s own words. And why would that be so? Because it would solve the problem of Social Security and Medicare being insolvent–old people dead = less to pay out. My doctor said that he agreed that it is the case.

An alternate view: since (as far as we know) the CCP clamped down pretty hard on the Wuhan city/ area, they must not have wanted to kill off their older cohort nationwide, even if they purposefully wanted to infect the rest of the world. But if the US and other CCP antagonists did “benefit” from not needing to pay for their more rapidly declining retiree cohorts, they would then be in a better position to resist any CCP hegemonic agenda.

Hey Scott thank you for bringing up the incident at the funeral home. I actually wrote that director and told them to grow a pair. I don’t care what side of the “pond” we’re living in; the fact is we are losing are collective minds concerning common sense.

If my father has just died and I’m consoling my mother and some man comes up to me to say we need to be social distancing, not only am I telling him precisely where he can shove it I will be using whatever means are required in order to not be separated from her and damn the consequences for it. This has moved beyond “but it’s just their job” into very dangerous territory. Quite frankly watching the men separate their chairs from the mom after being scolded made me feel immense shame that the cowards who acquiesced are my countrymen. If there is ever a time for a man to stand up it is when you are consoling your mother due to the loss of your father.

I’d just ask if that requirement applies to family members sharing a house. Though I can expect a pin headed bureaucrat to think that people breathing the same air for the last week and the next week should still be distanced for half an hour, as much for appearances, I’d also ask and make sure I have the name of the moron and be sure to call both the office and the local papers to ask whether following the science includes stuffed mascots blindly walking off cliffs.

I am 74 years old–high risk, right? But I have felt through all of this idiocy that we are living through, that there is a big difference between real living versus just breathing. And I want to live in the days that the Lord has allotted to me, not just try to make that time longer. I have used Bill’s line about this–that it is just a new way to die since we no longer have to worry about small pox, polio, bubonic plague, yellow fever, dysentery, typhoid, tetanus, diphtheria, and the list goes on. I also have used the line of a mayor of a city who when asked (not in relation to the WuFlu) what the death rate in his city was, he said, “One per person.” I am perfectly aware that I could contract the bug, but I am willing to take that risk so that I can really live out the plan that my Father in Heaven has for me rather than sit in the house and cower in fear. God did not give me a spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind. That is the spirit in which I want to live.

Well put, Karin. My mom told me last Christmas that whatever was the next virus or illness she contracted, it would be her last one. Her COPD was quite debilitating. She got something in early Jan and spiked a fever and her body couldn’t fight back. Our last lucid conversation was her talking about all the wonderful people and travels in her life. No regrets.
We all go out the same way. I have heard your line about “one per person” slightly differently. The mortality rate of living is 100%.

This morning I went shopping (at a small local store), put gas in my car and didn’t take any ‘precautions’ whatsoever. I want to live FREE and I do!

I’m planning on living forever. Why not? What happens if I fail? Can’t see a downside here.

🙂

I forget where it was, but someone (years ago) had the line “I plan to live forever. So far, so good.” Might have been a t-shirt slogan or poster, I don’t remember at all.

I think it was George Burns who said, “If I had known I was going to live this long, I’d have taken better care of myself”. Great line, whoever said it first.

“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
We seem to be moving from sentence 3 to sentence 4.

I disagree. I think we’re on the cusp of moving from sentence 4 back to sentence 1.
The Obama years were the hard times, caused by the weak man in the WH, and an entire generation of men who had never suffered real adversity.
With the advent of a real man in the WH, I think society will begin a resurgence of appreciation of true manliness (as opposed to the false manliness displayed in such concepts as ‘macho’).
Courtesy, true courage, willingness to take risks and accept responsibility for one’s actions, etc. Honor. Duty.
We’re beginning to see the rejection of PC culture, and the male-bashing of toxic feminism. I can only see it gaining ground from here.

I hope you are correct, but my fear is that they cycle doesn’t move that quickly. And, notwithstanding the wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from the left, it can get much worse than this.

The river raft guide Rule #1: Don’t freak out! Rule #2: Safety is an illusion. That’s why you wear a pfd, practice falling out of the raft and clambering back in, practice the proper use of the paddles and more. Face it: if you want to ride the river rapids, you won’t be safe. Or dry.

I think this is the logical conclusion to what happened when the Baby Boomer generation came on the scene. Their parents, who had been through the double trauma of The Great Depression and a World War, wanted to give their kids everything they never had, leading to entitlement and expectation of always getting their way. When they left the nest, these kids did get a taste of real life consequences and didn’t like it. They decided they had to control the environment around them so their kids would never feel those bad consequences for themselves. They set about softening every blow they could, leading to Helicopter Parents, and now we have a society who thinks that everything has to be perfectly ‘safe’ or it’s too risky. My husband and I didn’t raise our own kids to have this attitude, but somehow they were able to get those helicopters for their own kids and make use of them for most things. My daughter is thrilled that her two college-attending sons have to shelter in place in their home instead of going back to the universities. She can keep them ‘safe’ that way.

Absolutely the truth! And I would add to that, out of discussions with my mom who was a member of the Greatest Generation, that what the boomers did not get from their parents was the character qualities that got that group of Greatests through the Depression and WW2. That character was the most important thing that they could have given their kids, but generally that did not happen. And so each succeeding generation is farther and farther removed from character and more and more closely associated with safety and the material, now not even knowing what real character is. And thus we end up with the triggered spoiled brats of today. And this is sometimes even true when parents are raising the kids to be decent and respectful because the pressure of culture is so strong around them.

It’s not just risk aversion where this phenomena is manifesting although maximal risk aversion certainly is stealing the quality and depth of life from those who practice it.

It’s this damnable practice of trying to finesse and tweak every possible thing that’s the problem, maximal risk aversion is just another symptom. This is almost a mania that has spread throughout humanity, or at least the Western world. It’s known under various guises like “fashion” or “being trendy” etc. but at the root it’s the same thing. It’s herd mentality.

My mom and dad taught me how to balance things. Just as they drummed into my head life lessons like “sticks and stones may break my bones …”,”walk the walk not talk the talk”, etc. … I distinctly remember them trying to teach me the lesson of “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good”. Balance is important because there’s this thing called “The law of diminishing returns”.

Now it seems that if you don’t hold your left pinkie at exactly the proper angle in relationship to your right eyebrow your connection to cosmic goodness and universal enlightenment will be lost forever. Then you become one of the poor, ignorant, stupid people that could have been perfect but simply refused to heed the advice of your betters. Of course these betters are all self-appointed and your failure to do as they say is a fault in both your intelligence and moral fiber.

I see this in internet forums on very nearly every topic. From the proper way to enjoy the best pipe tobacco to cooking to the urban legends/myths that have attached themselves to the area of firearms (more broadly even just arms in general) that vex me to no end.

People like to be educated, they like to learn, God knows I’m probably more guilty than most of feeding the elephant’s child. That’s not the problem, balance is the problem.

Does one ten-thousandth of an inch make a significant difference in cartridge chamber length? Nope, there’s at least that much of a variable between manufacturers. Sometimes there’s that much difference between tooling at the same manufacturer.

If you smoke more than one bowl of your favorite tobacco in your favorite pipe in one day without allowing the pipe to “rest”, will your enjoyment of a centuries old comfort and hobby be devastated? Nope. (My great-uncle Art smoked the same pipe all day every day, the Philistine!!!)

If you substitute a dash or two of Tapatio for a half teaspoon of ground red pepper or powdered cayenne will your meal be ruined and inedible? Nope, it might be different than it would have been but it will still be great.

If you live to be over 100 years of age but do so from inside a cocoon of fear and avoidance by tweaking every possible variable for maximum longevity — is your life well lived? Not at all. It was uselessly hoarded not wisely spent and guess what? Yeah, you died anyway eventually.

Some of this mentality is due to the internet but not all of it. I think it’s more easily demonstrated on the internet and being demonstrated then more easily spread, but it’s a baked in fault in the psyche of some humans and that number seems to be growing.

Like many psychological manifestations, the internet is just another amplifier. We are well beyond exceeding the limits of our predictive capacity regarding the impact of modernity on the human condition. We will eventually find a new balance and level out. Or not and thus destroy ourselves.

What you’re seeing is a form of evolution in action. We’re not growing tentacles so that we can reach out and grab shellfish but we’re adapting mentally along the same lines. I’m not at all convinced that the overall modern interpretation of evolution is the correct one but the sub-category of natural selection is hard to argue against.

My Governor, Gina Raimondo, democrat (of course) holds weekly corona virus briefings; and every week she says, “I want to keep everybody safe.” For weeks I have been screaming at the TV, “You can’t! It’s impossible!”

Eventually this virus will stop being a problem. We will probably get a vaccine, with the success rate comparable to the annual flu vaccines (which is not very.) Beyond that something perfectly natural will happen – we will attain herd immunity, or the virus will mutate its way into something relatively innocuous. However, the ruling class will be ready and waiting to take full credit.

These people think they are gods with supernatural powers.

The truth of that matter is unavoidable. We are all going to be exposed to this virus eventually and most of us will contract the associated illness. Full stop.

The only alternative is to die from something else before that happens. I’m not saying we’re all going to die from the Kung Flu, we don’t all die from all the other pathogens either. I’m saying we’re all going to get it eventually.

No doctor and certainly no politician in the world can change that immutable fact.

Yes, very good line. This episode made me think of two quotes. The first I have posted from G. Michael Hopf.
The second is the poem, The Dash. I have asked the copy write holder for permission to post on this private site.

Dictionary.com defines aversion as “a strong feeling of dislike, opposition, repugnance, or antipathy.” This is different from avoidance, which that source defines as “the act of avoiding or keeping away from.”

The term “maximal risk aversion” (MRA) bothered me because at first I thought it used the wrong word, which I thought should have been “avoidance.” Thinking through it, though, made me realize that “aversion” is the perfect word. MRA is a state of mind. It’s revulsion at the thought of taking any risk at all.

(Side note: compare this to MRE, “Meal Ready to Eat,” which refers to certain military rations. My friends in the military assure me that there is revulsion involved, though for very different reasons.)

Certainly MRA leads to risk avoidance but it is the attitude toward life that does the real harm. There must be severe cognitive dissonance in the mind of the person who is terrified of risk yet must take risks every day just to survive at all. (Eat food? Breathe air? They might be poisonous!) To use Bill’s word, it is cowardice, indeed.

I agree with you completely. Maximal Risk Aversion ignores the principle of “acceptable risk”. That principle is applied by each individual according to his or her willingness on the risk-reward scale.

I served in the military and can second the others you speak of regarding MREs. Some are better than others and pretty much anything tastes better than nothing when you’re really hungry but it’s all pretty nasty by our standards. Mostly because our standards are quite high and that is a blessing. A starving child thinks an MRE is the best thing he ever tasted.

I also have in my military days jumped out of perfectly good, correctly operating airplanes and trusted my life to a scrap of cloth to safely deliver me to terra firma. I’ve likewise left a helicopter that was doing fine and in good health, or beein lifted by one out of my prevailing circumstances (see “SPIE rig”) trusting to an overgrown piece of string to prevent me falling to my death.

My opinion of such things is that anyone who does them non-professionally without great need just for the fun of it is by definition insane. The risk-reward equation doesn’t balance out for me. I’ll do it if I must but there’s no way I’m doing something like that for “fun”. But then I’ve seen a man fall all the way to the ground screaming and then bounce so my perception might be a bit biased.

Aversion and avoidance are clearly not the same thing and you are entirely correct.

“…the human thing to do.”

That’s my major gripe with all the stuff being foisted upon us. It’s dehumanizing. Masks especially are dehumanizing.

It’s ironic that while they try to preserve human life, they strip it of dignity. Or, put another way, they try to preserve life at all costs even when that cost is human dignity. For them, no cost is too high.

Of course, this is what exactly Bill was expressing in non-theological terms. I admire him for that skill–it’s very hard for me to discuss these sorts of things without an underlying theology.

I’m glad he does that. I don’t do religion. If everything here were presented with religious terminology, I wouldn’t be here. (The Daily Wire pundits, other than Shapiro, perhaps, is like that.)

I agree with just about everyone here on just about everything, but for different reasons, none of which include religion.

Agreed. Shapiro makes a big effort to present his arguments without reference to religion. He and Bill are good at it. I’m not. The fact the arguments here are mostly non-religious is a feature, not a bug.

We’ve removed God, or any belief in a higher power, from our culture. By doing this, we have taught people that there is no utopia to reach for. Therefore, we have to achieve utopia here on earth. Life on earth then becomes much more precious. We have taught people to live a life of fear as a result.

Without God, life on earth maybe indeed be viewed by the godless as more precious, but it is a very selfish preciousness that doesn’t extend much beyond their own person; otherwise we would not be having debates over abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia.

Exactly. A selfish preciousness. My life is more important than that of my not-yet-born baby because it’s my life.

This is an inversion of the traditional Catholic doctrine which directs that if the choice comes down to saving the life of the mother or the life of the baby, you must choose the baby, because his life is just beginning. It’s so rare in our society that such a choice ever exists (either/or, not both or neither) that the idea that you should save the mother, because she can have “another” baby in the future, now prevails, even among people who believe that babies are full persons with unique souls and unique value.

A selfish preciousness. reminds me of LOTR:
My Precioussssss! Must protect the Precioussssss!

As one of the godless, I can say that nothing about how I live my life is what you would call “selfish.” It’s not likely, though, that you’ve ever encountered a “godless” who’s not at least mostly like the stereotype. I’m definitely not.

I have friends, good friends, who are unbelievers, and not selfish. But leftists are both godless, and selfishly precious.

That’s good. I’m glad to hear that you know people like that. They’re pretty rare.

This is my take on selfishness:

When I was in school, I was on the basketball team. It so happened that, I was told, I was the best player on the team. I didn’t care about that at all, true or not. I was never the kind of player who wanted all the glory, the most points, the most accolades, etc. I led the team in several statistics but that was a side effect of the way I played. I shot, I rebounded, I passed, I defended, as the game situation demanded. I was called a very unselfish player.

But that was wrong. I was the most selfish player on the team.

The goal in any sport is to win. Individual sports like running or golf require individual effort to achieve that goal, working entirely for oneself because that’s the nature of those sports. Nobody calls Usain Bolt selfish for being the best and taking the glory in an individual sport. That’s just the reality.

I pursued my selfish goals in basketball. The thing is, the only proper goal in any team sport is to win the game, for your team to score more points than the other team. That was what I wanted above all else. And I was damn selfish about it. When the thing to do to win was pass the ball to another player, that’s what I did. When it was to grab a rebound and start a fast break,that’s what I did. And yes, when the thing to do was to shoot, that’s what I did too. Almost instinctively.

In one 8th grade game, I personally outscored the entire other team. That’s what winning that game required. In a 9th grade game, I defended against a player who had scored 24 points the last time we played his team in a game I missed because I was sick. In the second game, I covered him on defense and he scored exactly 2. I scored maybe 4. But we won and nothing else mattered to me.

Players who showboat, hog the ball, and try to always have the most points aren’t (properly) selfish. They are completely centered on others, not themselves, needing acclaim because they have no self-confidence or self-respect. They think that if they, say, score more points than everyone else, whether or not the team wins, and get that adulation from outside it means they are worthy of it. But that doesn’t work. They remain empty inside and their lives are futile and meaningless.

I usually refer to proper selfishness as “rational self-interest” because the word “selfish” has for a long time now meant something else, something bad. People who shove others aside in the quest for outside validation are called selfish. I pursue my own rational self-interest ruthlessly. But rational self-interest requires that one not discard or discount the rest of the world and the other people in it. It often requires doing things that, to the selfish person (in that sense that “selfish” is used now), seem to go against one’s interest. But those things are, in fact, necessary to my own interests.

I put myself first, even when it means putting myself last.

If necessary and for the right reasons, I would even die. My grandchildren, to defend the country that gives me the best chance to live my best life, to stop a killer – those are some examples of good things to die for if it comes to that. That sort of death is in my rational self-interest because life, my own life, wouldn’t be worth living if I didn’t.

The formal definition of selfishness, before it came to mean, in effect, running roughshod over other people, was merely “concern for oneself.” As long as you have rational concern for yourself, which means taking into account everything that affects you and that you affect, you’re doing nothing wrong. You’re actually always doing good.

I am so glad you made this post. Indeed, selfishness is rational self interest, and as such is a virtue

I don’t know if you’ve served in the military but you might be surprised how many of the people out there on the pointy end of the stick think like you do. When death is both profession and companion people tend to not only Believe, but do so profoundly and with great rationality. I am privileged to know quite a few such people and so have a good sample to base that opinion upon.

“Some of my friends are dead. Some of them just stopped living”
My favorite line from a song ever, from “Head Above Water” by Electric Angels (Their self titled debut album is arguably the greatest glam metal album ever made bhy a band not named Kiss)

Ultimately total risk aversion is not possible. By simply being alive you experience risk of death. The only way to not experience that risk is not to be born. Hence the sacred sacrament of abortion at any stage up to and including being born is held as being inviolate by the totally insane left of left.

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