Bob Woodward (and Robert Costa’s) new book, Peril, says Gen. Mark Milley, Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, went behind President Trump’s back in the days following the January 6 attack on the Capitol because he thought Trump was crazy. How should military leaders respond if they genuinely believe their Commander in Chief is mentally unfit?
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22 replies on “Peril in the Pentagon: Gen. Milley Goes Behind the Back of ‘Crazy’ President Trump”
TREASON?
HOW? INFECTIOUS has “wokism” over taken the Military? On it current course defined by the words of the “top brass” and their non-Military actions, IS? the Armed Forces becoming Social Justice “warriors and not what once considered the finest, MOST deadly and PROTECTORS of the Nation of its Citizenry.
“general” milley if it is TRUE committed TREASON, yet NOTHING is being done to make him answer for his words and ACTIONS. TREASON is defined in the dictionary as “. The betrayal of allegiance toward one’s own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts. This is a DISGRACE and an Abomination of Epic portions. He reportedly said, “I want to assure you that the American government is stable and everything is going to be okay,” Milley reportedly told Gen. Li Zoucheng, on Oct. 30, 2020. Milley went on to highlight the close relationship between the two men, saying, “If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”
Regarding informing China, Donald Trump said “So first of all, if it is actually true, which is hard to believe that he would have called China, and done these things, and was willing to advise them of an attack or in advance of an attack, that’s treason!. “And I would think, I’ve had so many calls today saying that’s treason.” Then Donald Trump commented, “The worst, the dumbest thing that anybody has ever seen, probably the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to our country, where they killed our soldiers, we left with embarrassment on our face, we left Americans behind, and we left 85 billion dollars worth of the best equipment that I bought because I was the one that rebuilt our military and then he gave it away,” Trump said. “For him to say that I was going to attack China is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard and everybody knows it.”
You DO NOT go behind your CO’s back. It’s that simple.
If you are given an unlawful order, you do not simply disobey, you have to have the stones to stand up and refuse that order. That distinction is why Ed Snowden is in Russia and Bradley Manning went to prison.
The chance that General Thoroughly Modern Milley doesn’t know this is ZERO.
Granted, I don’t have all the facts. I may not have them ever.
But what I have seen thus far says to me that Esper, Pelosi and Milley all three are guilty of treason, and should be put in front of a firing squad.
According to former Department of Defense leader, Kash Patel, the Joint Chiefs have ZERO authority in the actual chain of command down from the CIC. The Joint Chiefs of Staff are STRICTLY advisors to the President. Any Presidential command goes directly to the various heads of military divisions, such as Commander Pacific Fleet. Their is an excellent series of interviews with Kash Patel on EpochTV – American Thought Leaders.
So, if Milley did, indeed, call a meeting of military leaders and place himself in the direct chain of command, it is in violation of chain of command process.
Coluding with the Chinese? I think we have another candidate for a charge of treason.
Although Woodward is a “journalist”, his book is a work of fiction. However, that being said, there is evidence that Miley did commit treason (and Pelosi is a hysteric)
General Milley had 3 legal options
#1) keep His damn mouth shut and adhere to the policies and orders of the President
#2) Resign just like former Secretary of Defense James Mattis did. At least Mattis had the strength of character to openly state that he disagreed with the President and would resign because (quoting him now):
“Because you (Trump) have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position”
#3) Contact all members of the cabinet to convene an emergency meeting. In this meeting, make your case to justify invoking the 25th Amendment
Running around ordering subordinates to ONLY obey his orders and not the orders of a sitting President, and calling Chinese Military command and making agreements with them outside of the direction of the President are NOT legal options. General Milley needs to be court marshaled and kicked out of the military.
Ideologues don’t follow process.
I wonder what other info Pelosi was relaying to Milley in regards to Jan6 after she and Mitch ordered the Capitol Police to stand down. After denying the offer from Trump for the national guard. It’s almost like some people had a plan or something, huh?
I think the phone call was all in Milley’s head. I doubt the Chinese even accepted the call or thought it was official IF it was made.
Pence, was a JUDES and still is! He sold his soul for 30 pieces of silver? and helped to take down a good man, but just like JESUS you you can’t keep a good man down???
This is what happens when everybody gets a trophy.
https://redstate.com/jimthompson/2021/09/15/code-red-the-manchurian-twins-mark-milley-and-tony-fauci-n443369
The steps to command and commit to a nuclear launch do not rest solely in the hands of the POTUS. That’s a myth propagated by popular media and common ignorance.
The POTUS doesn’t actually wake up one morning and say, “Hey, today’s the day I push the button and end the world.”
It actually works the other way around, the idea is that the military will determine that there is a situation wherein launching a nuclear strike is unavoidable. There are alot of scenarios and I’m not going to get into all of them. Basically what you end up with is a consensus among the Joint Chiefs who present their reasons and then they ask the POTUS to authorize a launch. This can happen very quickly and the more urgent the situation the faster it transpires but … The decision is the President’s at that point.
You see the same methodology from the ground up in military operations. It works the same though scales up the higher you go.
A Marine Platoon Commander can get on the radio and request an air or artillery strike. Someone above him weighs his request against known factors and approves or denies it.
A Navy task force commander sees a need to take action with his task force, he has to request and get approval from his superiors.
In all cases approval for a major action comes from higher authority which presumably has the bigger picture and is willing to take responsibility for approving or denying the action. The Marine Platoon Commander may not be aware that a unit is moving in to reinforce him and would be threatened by an air or artillery strike. The Navy task force commander may not know there are secret political and diplomatic negotiations underway that will negate the need for him to take action with his task force.
The buck stops with the President, it does not start with the President.
The President does not and cannot lawfully in any facile manner just call up an Air Force base or a nuclear submarine and say “Hey, I want you to put a few megatons of yield on Beijing this afternoon.”
Yes, the POTUS is Commander in Chief, the top rank in all of America’s military structure. No, he’s not a god and he’s not a king. He has to follow the law the same as everyone else. His orders, whatever they may be, must be lawful orders first. There are solid, failsafe safeguards in place.
General Mark Milley knows all this very, very well.
People in this country, on both sides of the aisle, seem to be forgetting that we don’t have kings or god-men or any of that nonsense. The lust for power is an irresistible impetus for some people to try to make themselves those things but we have mechanisms in place to curtail them.
One of the people that those mechanisms needs to focus on right now is General Mark Milley. He put his finger in the wind, saw which way it was blowing after the 2020 election and in the final days of the Trump Presidency decided to usurp authority and power that is not his to weild. Then used that usurpation to ingratiate himself to the incoming administration. If he did what he’s accused of he did it to try to make himself indispensable to the incoming administration and its party to secure his job in the near future.
If Milley did that, it’s inexcusable.
Especially the thing with contacting the Chinese directly. Milley is not a diplomat but he invaded the territory of diplomacy with military force. Keeping the Chinese calm is the purview of diplomats who are trained and experienced in what to say and how to say it so that the message is clear but the Chinese cannot use that message as an excuse for undesirable actions. Milley had no idea how the Chinese might view what he said. They might have decided that was the moment to strike us (or Taiwan, or whatever) because they perceived our military to be in confusion and hesitant to respond. By his actions, outside his chain of command and contrary to diplomatic policies, General Mark Milley put the US in more danger than he averted by an order of magnitude.
This needs to be thoroughly investigated and if true Milley needs to be prosecuted. If the current administration decides to ignore the situation because it seemed to work in their favor then they are complicit when something like this happens again and it does not work in the favor of the United States of America. The current administration is responsible and must act.
If this stuff is true the very least that needs to happen is for an investigation to determine Milley’s complicity and quietly demand his resignation “for the good of the service and the good of the nation”. Even if Milley is not prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law that will put future Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on notice that if you pull this crap it will cost you your career.
This is not a trivial situation and Milley’s assessment of the fitness of a sitting POTUS is irrelevant. Donald Trump could not have done what Milley is using as an excuse for his duplicity. Even if Trump was batshit crazy he could not have launched nukes arbitrarily and for his own ends so that is proof if Milley did this thing it was no more than an excuse to further his own ambitions.
I wonder when this really started. Was it during Nixon / Kennedy debates that political ads started talking about whose finger was on “The Button” or was it later on with Reagan / Carter or Mondale when they were trying to paint Reagan as too old and senile to have the responsibility?
The daisy ad was in the 60s, I think.
Or is this just a continuation of fear mongering of the press and politics that has been going on all the way back to Sparta? Who would we either follow into war or who would keep us out of war? Vote for that person.
It really lacks the perspective that looking back on the past 4000 years is an exercise in reviewing who was attacking whom and who came out on top for a brief period of time until the next attack on that victor or another.
It can be argued that the 20th century was the first time that nations told aggressor nations to stop increasing their boundaries through war. And then those nations banded together to stop the aggressor nation.(Germany, Germany again, Japan, N. Korea, N. Vietnam, Iran, Russia, etc.) Whether for noble ideals or self-preservation, the rate of one nation swallowing another (through violence) has largely stopped. However, political nation absorption is just getting started. And that rate may proceed apace as I don’t see any nation now with the stones to say no.
If Iran takes over in Iraq and absorbs them politically, without invasion would anything other than a strongly worded letter be issued from any quarter?
Similarly with several _____-istans. If Putin convinced the political leaders of those nations to reform the USSR, what would anyone do?
China takes over Hong Kong and Singapore politically, what happens? If they move other than militarily on Taiwan, who stands up?
The middle parts of the African continent have China strengthening ties economically. I suspect the same happens in Afghanistan, with the inducement being China’s ability to reverse engineer parts for helicopters and other equipment left behind.
I won’t be here, but I suspect the Globe looks very different for my great-grandchildren. And not due to excessive heat, at least not that presumably caused by global warming. The boundaries will be quite different. Maybe Orwell wasn’t really that far off. We’ve always been at war with Eastasia, right?
The Daisy Ad: Johnson v. Goldwater. I think it ran just once, and that was enough. It did its damage beyond all reason.
“General Mark Milley knows all this very, very well.”
That goes right along with the statement of Rick Grennell. I’m no expert but from what I’ve seen of him he’s a straight shooter (hah – politically, at least). The clever way he couched it defended Mr. Trump more than sided with Milley, and mainly cast shade on Woodward. I think I got that right, will happily stand corrected if not.
Also interesting/disturbing is that apparently Pelosi has no clue how all this works. Or she does and is playing politics with national security, because it looks like a way to gain more power. Do they care about anything else?
Milley commits this act as a Chinese leader…he’s never have heard from again. Russia….Firing squad. Germany, Italy, France, UK? He’d be fired in disgrace immediately. USA as it stands right now? Glorified as a hero. Our leaders HATE us! Simple as that.
Oh, yeah, that’s Bill I subscribed for! 🙂 too bad the flames don’t materialize in M’s ass.
C’mon, guys – why are you giving credence to Trump saying “Pence couldn’t be his friend” kind of quotes? How many years of unsubstantiated “Sources close to President Trump claim…” quotes did we hear from members of the profession formerly known as journalism?
Would it shock me if the quote turned out to be true? Not really, but the new criteria for today’s meid is “Mistrust, and hound those bastards for failing to verify when they just move onto their next lie”
This silliness of word usage is what makes me doubt the veracity the most. It strikes me as someone trying to come up with a line. This is the scene of which it reminds me. Trying to paint Trump as a Mafia Don but Pence is now supposed to be a tough guy who spurns the Don’s friendship rather than kisses the ring, as Amerigo did. Poor dialog as if they watched too many episodes of The West Wing.
Proud to say I never watched an episode of that crap show when it was big. Someday I might watch a few episodes out of morbid curiosity