Famous retailers sue landlords to break their leases and escape from New York City as rioting makes business unprofitable. Is this the Progressive justice protestors demand? With Jay-Z among the business people longing to flee, will Mayor Bill de Blasio still continue his slacker approach to law enforcement? Will New Yorkers call up former Mayor Rudy Giuliani to restore order and prosperity to their beleaguered city?
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Gentlemen. It wasn’t Juliani that should get the credit for New York’s stability, but police commissioner Bernard Kerik, who is retired after a character assassination attempt similar to Flynn. You won’t have an easy time finding another man like him. He’s a one of a kind forged in fire human being.
I’ll repeat my YouTube comment:
Movement? It’s a movement, all right. I have a similar movement every day…
I suppose your attitude on multitudes moving in depends on whether you’re in the market to sell or not. Rapidly rising house prices are great when you’re 6 months from putting your house on the market to leave the immediate area (and not just moving across town, either to a larger house for the kids and a raise at work, or to a smaller house with the kids graduated and gone).
On the other hand, if you are nested in nicely, having the house rates jump up will probably do the same to your taxes. At least they would all be adding to the tax base as well which should mean more money for all the things you’d like to have but probably means just more money into certain pockets as the rot starts.
Scott, it can be very dangerous, as you say, to live in high concentrations of humanity. A quick bit of research on population/area/density shows me that Manhattan has nothing on Hong Kong’s Kowloon peninsula for densely packed residents – 74,000 compared to 116,000 people per square mile. Since 2000, I’ve traveled to Hong Kong for work and spent most of my time on the Kowloon Peninsula mucking about in my off-work hours, shopping, sightseeing, eating, travelling the subways, just tourist stuff. I have never felt in danger…ever. 20 years, 60 trips, and not one event where I felt threatened. (Well, except for 2019’s protests but I avoided HK during that time)
Contrast that with the constant dangers of New York City, or San Francisco, or Chicago, Seattle, Portland, D.C, Minneapolis, even before protests began. Hong Kong area is much more densely populated than any of the aforementioned cities. What the difference? Why can this area be much safer to travel in, and the American cities are not?
It’s not that Hong Kong is a mono cultural or mono ethnic place. On the subway I’d be standing next to folks from India, Europe, Australia, the Middle East, Indonesia, Japan, Mainland China, all mixed in with the locals. And as for police presence, I almost never saw police during all my trips. Yes, they were there and heavy handed with the protesters in late 2019, but other than that, never felt an obvious visible police presence.
Why can this area be much safer to travel in, and the American cities are not? Could it simply be the attitudes of the residents? Not a lot of leisure time in Hong Kong. People are either working or travelling to or from work. Or shopping. But they are busy. Constantly busy. If I am correct, and it is the attitudes of the residents, then the New Yorkers moving to red states or the burbs will simply bring their same attitudes along with them and either act in the same way they did back in the city, or vote in the same way. Either way, not good for the places they move into.
BWDC members who are residents of the American cities I just listed, set me straight. Tell me I’m crazy. I’m more than willing to change my position based on informed feedback. And thanks!
I live a little further south in Colorado Springs and on an average day I see a California license plate on an alarmingly increasing amount of vehicles between home and work. I saw the Californication of Washington state in 1989 / 1990 right before we left. The Springs used to be the conservative stronghold in Colorado. That may still be true but it’s being diluted, same as Washington. And yes, they’re bringing all their leftist crap with them. It’s an infestation. Last winter I was shoveling my walk and this middle-aged beardy came up and commented that in California, where he was from, all you had to shovel was sunshine. I somehow managed to not hit him with the shovel. God help us all.
The other interesting part of this is the past 3 months of Covid-hibernation. Many companies that did not like the employees working from home thing have discovered that we can actually be productive remotely. I fully expect to be home much more than in the office after this ends. That is definitely true in the financial markets. If you don’t need to take the train in from Westchester to Manhattan to do your job, you could live on the beach in Naples or Tampa Bay. Or Hilton Head. If you are young and renting and without progeny, you are very mobile. Live where you want.
Hopefully most of them move to the LA burbs or SF burbs and don’t poison the well down here.
This started at the end of Bloomberg’s terms. Several wealthy people left and the city felt it in the purse quickly. There was an article back then that stipulated a very small number of the wealthiest 1% of NYC residents needed to leave and the city would be bankrupted. It doesn’t take many.
The New Yorkers voted for it and deserve every painful bloody failure they voted for. They asked for it and got it with both barrels. Now they expect the rest of the country to save them. I say let New York City AND state sink into the same death spiral that Detroit experienced. Keep the crap you made and live/die with it.
I live in the Republican corner of NY State because I love my dad and will be near him until he’s gone. We’re not even sure why we pay taxes: Cuomo told us we’re not what NY is all about and we should leave.That maniac was going to come in and take our medical equipment to take care of the city and leave us hanging. Please do not paint us all with the same brush.
I was in a similar position when I lived in California. My wife of almost 60 years was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. We sought treatment in California. For the better part of a year, we fought hellish traffic (4 hours and more each way) to get treatment. The treatment almost worked but also almost killed her. The traffic situation likely added to her trauma. .
Near the end, she wanted to move back “home” to see her grand children. We put our house on the market, discarded or gave away 80% of our belongings, packed the rest and traveled 2000 miles to go “home”. My wife died three weeks later but she did get to see one of her grandsons. It has taken several years for me to recover my balance again but it was worth it. Fortunately we had the circumstance of having a place to move to which made the move more possible.
As you, I had never voted for the unspeakable criminals in California government. The insanity that is California was and is not my fault just as the insanity that is New York is not your fault. However, had we stayed in California we would have had to pay for the insanity that now exists. Moving was very difficult but, in retrospect, was the best that I could have done.
Your moving away from the New York insanity likely has insurmountable difficulties. I cannot tell you that you should move or not. I can say that I have a very personal understanding of the challenges you face.
I am sorry for your ordeal. We do our best to live happy, productive lives in the corrupt pustulence that is NY. It is easier if you skip the news now and then and take some time in the beautiful Allegany mountains. Best wishes, Lionel.
Fortunately there is still a lot of beauty, natural and man made, left on this earth. Taking time to enjoy it is as important as life itself.
At the rathe they’re going, Steve, more like 5, 10, 15 months.
Why NYers voted for this reminds me of a Facebook food fight I was having with a Lefty buddy @ 10 years ago over Obamacare. One of his arguments was “We can afford to be stupid”. I pointed out that you can only afford to be stupid until you can’t, but it never sank in.
In the words of the great Damien Sandow, “Ignorance is temporary. but stupidity is forever.”
NY’rs just returned AOC to congress and ousted a very senior Dem congressman in favor of another radical leftist.
OMG. They’re NOT learning.
Yep, I got that one wrong. I was sure that Pelosi was going ot have Gulag Barbie primaried out for being such a pain in her a**. What’s truly disturbing is that the establishment Dems now consider all of her idiocy worth the trouble
Yep. I figured AOC was toast too. Having pissed off Pelosi.
I’ve been saying this since NY began its pro-crime movement a few years ago. Turning the city lawless will only bring back all of the bad of the 70s without any of the good. It’s not going to revive Punk, make snorting coke chic, or reopen CBGB. It’s just going to go back to being a filthy crime-ridden s*** hole
They’re gonna move here and keep voting. Ugh.
Forget the liberal purgatory. Follow your thumbnail and just build a wall around NYC and let them all fend for themselves. Art becomes reality.
P.S. I’ll watch anything with a Snake Plissken teaser. Thanks for making my morning!
Build the damn wall!
I suppose it is too much to hope that the middle class of NYC would flee to Western NY and let me unload my house and move out of state. Couldn’t they serve their time in purgatory in their own state before going out to pollute the flyover country? Is the flyover country still going to be deplorable when they live there?
Funny! Thanks for the coffee in my nose.