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Take Off: Jetson Law Allows Flying Cars to Use New Hampshire Roads

New Hampshire just passed the so-called Jetson Law to allow flying cars to use public roads to get to air strips for take off. Customers already place orders for several science fantasy models — the Terrafugia Transition, Samson Switchblade and PAL-V. But is the flying car a rotten idea that will never take off?

New Hampshire just passed the so-called Jetson Law to allow flying cars to use public roads to get to air strips for take off. Customers already place orders for several science fantasy models — the Terrafugia Transition, Samson Switchblade and PAL-V. But is the flying car a rotten idea that will never take off?

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I grew up in the same era as Bill and I too dreamed of the flying car. As a 60 year old adult the thought terrifies me. Most people are terrible drivers, just ask anyone, they will tell you so (everyone is except ME that is). Do you relish the idea of the guy that has a fender bender every other year flying over head, having a oops that brings him down on your head? No Thanks! I’m holding out for a Jet Pack or flying platform. I’m sure they hurt much less when they fall on you.

Just the other day I read an essay by Robert A. Heinlein in which he made a bunch of “by the year 2000” predictions in about 1950, then commented on them in 1965. (I believe he also wrote comments on them again in the 80s.) A few of them were pretty spectacular, such as “your personal communications device will fit into your purse” (not on your wrist) and you’ll carry it everywhere with you. Of course, most of his predictions didn’t come true. He very much fit into the common thinking about nuclear power (and war), interplanetary travel, food and energy shortages, and all the rest of it.

Y’all are missing the advantages: keep the Switchblade (For example) in your garage and avoid a $250-500/mo hanger fee in metro areas; When low on fuel you can put down at any airport, even those without mogas, and drive to the nearest gas station to refuel; the ability to put down at any nearest runway and drive through bad weather, (this and fuel starvation contribute to many accidents by pilots pressing to get somewhere); avoid the hassle of really small, rural airports without an airport car or rental cars; and lastly, have that ballistic chute system like on the Switchblade for the worst case scenario. I’m not trying to just shill for the Switchblade, but look at their Facebook (Its better) or at their web page.

I can foresee a problem at many rural airports because they are uncontrolled (no control tower). I think a flying car is a great alternative for those of use who are already pilots but that is only a small percentage of the population. I am afraid that there must be an advancement in the entirety of the computer controlled flight envelope to go with the flying car in order to make it practical. Of course, an electric (for example:Black Fly) solution would permit garage to destination solution.

This plane solves a great challenge for me, who travels to small towns. The BlackFly is a short distance (26 mi), slow (62 mph) & fair-weather ultra light plane. The BlackFly still has to be put on a trailer to be stored. You will theoretically pull your SwitchBlade into your garage. You and Bill need to see the practicality of something like the SwitchBlade. It’s not a Camry (or a Cessna 172), it’s like a LandCruiser; something useful in specific situations very effectively. But in today’s Chinese Flu environment I can’t see How it couldn’t be successful. Who wants to get on a commercial airliner even for business nowadays?!?

Now all you have to do is allow for the stupid carbon based life form infesting it.

In my work, I’ve had the same ‘head in the clouds’ CEO for 30 years. Over the years, he’s repeatedly asked me for my industry’s equivalent of a flying car. Bill described it perfectly, but I’ll share how I’d describe the engineering problems to my CEO…. It’s a 10 snake trick in a 9 snake capacity can. Remember that gag where upon opening the Pringles shaped can, spring loaded ‘snakes’ fly out?
A flying car is a ’10 Snake Gag’. Trying to cram the luxury and performance of a 2020 Camaro and the efficiency and performance on a Rutan Long EZ into the same 9 snake capacity can, something’s gotta pop out. It all can’t fit.
Besides the engineering problem, I can’t live in a world where above me in the sky are the same freaking idiots who’ll drive down the freeway texting or yakking on the phone and not paying attention to what the hell is going on in front of them. Flying should only be allowed for the insanely detail oriented, focused, serious and competent of pilots who have proven their skills to another pilot – the instructor – and not for just anyone who can afford a flying car.
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The Camaro reference was for Bill’s sake. So was the Long EZ for that matter.

Regarding my comments about what it takes to pilot an aircraft, I can speak from experience, sort of. In 1981, I was 22 years old and took hang gliding lessons. Loved it. As I progressed from sand dunes to mountain launch take offs, the level of precision and details grew exponentially. My last flight was a “4 stepper” off a 1000 vertical drop into a canyon. You get 4 steps to gain enough forward momentum to achieve flight. I had done this 3 times before with no issues. The last time, “Mr ADD” took 3 steps instead of four, didn’t build enough flight speed, and immediately stalled, pointing my glider straight down to the tips of the redwood trees below. I was pretty much doomed.
However, my highly skilled and detail oriented Instructor called on my radio to inform me that I’d better pull on the handle to build some speed, so I may regain control of the hang glider and fly to a safe landing. I took his advice very carefully and quickly, however regaining flight speed meant I had to fly towards my death that much quicker….which I did, and flew out of the canyon, so low I barely avoided the high voltage wires along Hwy 1, for a beach landing. That day I learned I didn’t have “the right stuff” to pilot a flying craft.
Driving down the freeway now, you can see so many folks who also should not pilot a flying craft. The makeup putter on’er…the coffee in one hand and egg mcmuffin in the other hand, driving with knee….the person holding the phone out in front of them while talking, thinking it’s “hands free”….the moron watching videos on his tablet while driving 55 mph in the fast lane….I could do this all day….

My favorite flying car is Robert Heinlein’s Ford Duo “Gay Deceiver”. Of course the word “gay” has morphed a bit since Bob applied it …

As far as the New Hampshire law goes, this is a great example of the stupidity of lawmakers. If you owned a flying car you’d still want to have a conventional ground vehicle for all the times you don’t want to fly somewhere or risk your fabulously expensive flying car in traffic where you’d be competing with $200 junkers and aggressive driving by inexperienced or just plain bad drivers.

So there is really no advantage to driving your flying car to the airport as opposed to driving your conventional car to the airport where you keep your airplane. Except parking and walking to your hanger of course. Plus hanger or tie-down pad rental but I’m thinking that if you could afford a flying car the cost of a place to put it when it isn’t in use wouldn’t be much of an issue.

I hate to say that you’re forgetting about insurance with the “driving in traffic” argument. Plenty of folks drive around those same nuts in their $100,000+ luxury sport cars and SUVs. Also, $120k isn’t “fabulously expensive” when compared to a new Cessna, Piper, or especially a Cirrus. So helping out a “regular Joe” pilot with the option of putting thousands into the other costs associated with ownership goes a long way in increasing Gen’l Aviation.

I’m not forgetting a darned thing. Feel free to make any points you like without criticizing the recollection and/or cognitive abilities of other people. Thanks in advance for your consideration and respect.

No offense intended. I was just trying to make the point that insurance handles those risks that you mentioned. I don’t want to be afraid of risks in life in order to advance humanity, whether it be getting into a Conestoga wagon like my relatives in the 1800’s or maybe me owning a flying sports car In 2020.

That is not an apology. If you don’t intend to offend then don’t make assumptions expressed by casting aspersions on the cognitive ability of people you do not know. I do not appreciate condescension, I don’t put up with that “out in the wild”, the “cesspool of social media” that Scott Ott often refers to and I won’t tolerate being addressed in that manner here either. In fact avoidance of that kind of thing is one of the reasons I paid for a membership here. I assure you that most other people likewise do not care for that but unlike me probably don’t bother to call you on it. You could easily have made your point without doing that and had you done so the character of this conversation would carry a wholly different tone.

I’m sorry but I don’t see how a novelty flying car that isn’t even in production and has not yet actually flown, which when and if it is ever flown and then marketed will only be used by a very small number of human beings, goes very far towards “advancing humanity”. I’m talking about the Samson Switchblade of course but the general idea applies to the whole concept.

Comparing something like the Samson Switchblade to a Conestoga wagon is fallacious. The “prairie schooner” was ubiquitous and easily affordable to everyday common people. Something like the Samson Switchblade will never be anything but a toy for the very rich. Who don’t care about the cost and don’t mind paying the exorbitant insurance fees that will be applied to it.

It’s absolutely fine with me if you’re a general aviation enthusiast and whether you are or not isn’t my point. We all have our interests and you’re welcome to yours. Holding a pilot’s license, or aspiring to, does not give you license to talk down to other people. If you want to be treated civilly then act civil. The Golden Rule isn’t some namby-pamby, pie-in-the-sky religious precept. You show others how you deserve to be treated by how you treat them.

I saw no ‘offense’ in his original response to you, but I guess ‘offense’ is in the eye of the beholder…

Then … Please allow me to explain my interpretation of why what Randy said was offensive.

“You are forgetting about …” means that I didn’t think of something. I did think of those things but I’m trying to be brief and not write full blown essays. Saying that means that Randy believes I did not fully consider what I said, and I did.

I should not be required to post every single angle of every single idea in order to avoid being pounced on and my recollection impugned.

Had he said, “Have you considered that …” then what he would be saying is “I would like to discuss this further point” not “Your memory is faulty or inadequate.”

Randy’s point was not in itself offensive, it was the way he presented it that offended me and it offended me enough to generate umbrage. Because it was in effect calling me stupid for not addressing his point before he ever made it. I don’t like that and I don’t tolerate that from people. If you choose to do so, that is entirely your own affair and I would support you either way while still maintaining that my way is the better.

I’m also not telling Randy or anyone else how to speak (or in this case write) to other people. That is his choice and he can reap whatever consequences, good or bad, that he merits from his choice of words.

That said, when I address someone in an online forum that I have no quarrel with I choose my words carefully, as I am doing with you. Because I have no quarrel with you at all. Where Randy said I was omitting something because I “forgot” about it, he was implying a shortcoming on my part that does not exist.

Because you said, “I saw no ‘offense’ in his original response to you, but I guess ‘offense’ is in the eye of the beholder…”, you were not commenting on my shortcomings or positions. You were expressing your opinion of what I said as it pertains to you. You didn’t make any reference to me other than that you perhaps didn’t understand why I might say the things I said. Which is what prompted me, as you were replying to me, to reply to you and explain. Had Randy done likewise I would have taken no offense.

When I post a comment to someone, until they give me reason to do otherwise, I use language that avoids accusing them of anything, of missing something, of forgetting something, or any other sort of implication that is personal to them. I speak (or write) like you did, in a tense that is personal to me.

That is the civil thing to do.

I’m old, a curmudgeon, and come from a time and place when/where civility was important. A time when you didn’t just blurt out the first thing that came to your mind unfiltered because doing so can initiate a fight. The reason for the fight wasn’t a few words, it was the attitude that those few words betrayed. So people like me are careful to check our attitudes and avoid giving offense where none is intended. Conversely if I give offense you may be certain it was fully intentional.

What Randy said, to someone like me, is the same thing as calling me stupid because I didn’t cover the thing that he thinks he’s so much smarter than me that he could see it and I “forgot” it. It doesn’t matter if he says “I hate to say that you forgot blah, blah, blah” or he says “Hey, dipstyck (not the word I want to use), apparently you’re too stupid to realize blah, blah, blah.” It’s the same thing in different words. If I were replying to someone who said what I said I would not say something like that unless I was looking for a fight and in that case I’m essentially saying “Bring it”.

Further, I despise when people try to hide behind “Oh, I didn’t actually say that” or “I didn’t really mean to offend you.” For example, one family Thanksgiving dinner my eldest son was acting up and I firmly but politely told him to “settle down”. He gave me “the look”. I said, “That look is the same thing as saying out loud ‘Eff YOU, Dad” and told him he got one pass. Do it again and he and I will be making a trip to the woodshed.”

Today that son is an electrical engineer, a good father, husband and a good man. The other one, I have two, is second in command of a US Naval Base. I’m very proud of and close to both of them, and their families. Just incase anyone thinks that growing up with me for a Dad was some sort of warping experience. Both of my boys are scrupulously and meticulously polite and if they’re not being polite to you it means they’re ready to engage you to whatever degree is appropriate.

In my world it is not inappropriate to call someone out on uncivil behavior. Not only is it not inappropriate, it’s not optional either. If someone wants to make personal comments about my mentality then I and that person are going to have conflict. So be it, I do not avoid conflict just for the sake of avoiding conflict. I understand that other people may have been raised differently than me or come from a different background than I do and while I’m aware of that it makes no difference to me. I give as good as I get, anyone who is polite to me will get civility in return and if they’re not polite to me they’ll get what I see as their just deserts. While I cannot teach the whole world a lesson, I can certainly teach people that you don’t tread on me without consequences.

This is a “code” that I live by and in my view the world would be a much better, more civilized place if everyone else did too.

If you have any further questions about what offends me feel free to ask. I’ll write another essay and try to explain it to you.

GMTA. That was my thinking when I understood the headline of the video.

If not anti-gravity technology then something like Mr. Fusion wedded to a massively powerful flight engine(s). Someone once said (and I’d cite the source if I could remember it), “It’s all a matter of power. You can fly a cast iron bathtub if you can apply enough power in the right vectors.”

That quote reminded me of the (beautiful, but inherently flawed) movie ‘Tomorrowland’.
George Clooney’s character actually does fly a cast iron bathtub.
With a massive rocket engine strapped to the bottom!
So….yeah!

Don’t forget the A-Team movie’s Liam Neeson (John “Hannibal” Smith) version of “flying” an Abrams tank with a parachute and and a cannon.

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