Cal State’s 23 campuses will remain shuttered this fall, with its 480,000 students continuing education online. It’s the first major American university to announce what could become the death of the American college experience. But could it actually be the salvation of a college education?
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12 replies on “The Death of the College Experience: Cal State to Stay Shuttered in Fall 2020”
Universities throughout the country must now face the fact that the product is completely overpriced. There’s no way to pretend that online access to a professor is better than online access to every professor everywhere (Jordan Peterson, for example) for the price of an internet connection–which can be zero if you’re willing to cadge the public library’s wifi from the parking lot.
Of my small HS Senior class this year in September nearly all planned to attend higher ed. As we Zoomed out this week, only one will try to attend pre-med at a local State school this fall. Most used the quarantine as an opportunity to earn money delivering food, erecting buildings, pulling weeds, babysitting, washing windows, and painting. Turns out essential work can be rewarding too.
So Bill, when I was taking classes at Ft. Bliss for my Masters in Healthcare Administration, I recall this one particular prof who never missed an opportunity to bad mouth then President Bush. I had had enough and gave her a verbal berating. Why? Because the classes were held on a military reservation and most in attendance were active duty servicemen. This was 2006 and I had been retired for sometime but my loyalties run deep. He was still the CinC.
Things have just gotten worse since then.
Just my 2 cents.
I decided, a couple of decades ago, that if I was ever a hiring manager, I would immediately circular-file any resumé that listed a Harvard B.A. as the highest degree achieved.
Thankfully, in my area of Big Tech it was never an issue.
Wrong, Bill. Theater isn’t the bottom of the barrel. Try music. ;-D
Gotta disagree with you there. Instruments take some real hard work and discipline to learn, and as a member of my university’s marching band, I can say that the band director is a fantastic individual and highly competent in the areas of management, leadership, organization, and communication.
I sing with the local Symphony. I can state unequivocally that both the choir master (who teaches at a nearby university) and the Maestro are two of the smartest, most dedicated musicians I have ever met. Very hard working.
After seeing many pictures of college lecture rooms with where every student has their laptop open I strongly think that most of them are online doing non-classroom stuff.
If they are “learning” online in class or “learning” online out of class there is little difference.
As Mark Twain taught us “I never let school interfere with my education”.
Oh yeah, I’ve seen several people in my physics class watching soccer games, doing other homework, or looking at snap chat during lecture.
I work at a college now. When they ask me, I tell the students no employer is going to give a rat’s fluffy butt where you got you degree. Only that you have a degree, if even. Get in and out as quickly and as cheaply as possible.
There are a few exceptions. Having a degree from MIT will definitely turn employers’ heads.
Yep. And that’s exactly what I tell ’em. There are a tiny number of schools that’ll get employer’s attention in my field. I went to one of them. But if you’re gonna work in my industry, don’t blow $100k going to UT. No-one’s gonna care.
As a fellow theatre major, I feel very lucky that I’ve always been able to make a meager living w/in my field. I think part of it is because I specifically went to college to meet people who would hire me. To make contacts.