Recorded live before a global audience on January 7, 2021.
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The Stratosphere Lounge Episode 270
Recorded live before a global audience on January 7, 2021.
Recorded live before a global audience on January 7, 2021.
Recorded live before a global audience on January 7, 2021.
39 replies on “The Stratosphere Lounge Episode 270”
It could work if one person does not seek reelection to the same position. Whatever they manage to do at least they can’t make anything worse and they can move on to another political venture until you have many very knowledgeable people that could help the next guy in line.
As for conservatives having a hard time forking over contributions. It is simple when you understand that the corrupt find pay to play and the exchange of favors to get more in return is a natural thing for them and hard for people who don’t expect to beg a future favor. What the right is good at is understanding the value of the outcome and the loyalty of a community that is stronger together. Anything beyond that must apply to faith and a timeframe, with noticeable intermittent growth towards what is expected.
Sorry, Bill, but I’m going to disagree with you regarding term limits. I’ve always viewed them as putting a simple band-aid on a sucking chest wound. The incumbents will simply appoint successors, the DNC/GOP money machines will throw their weight & dollars behind them, and we end up with a bunch of clones.
i think a better solution is to remove the perks that attract all the wrong people to DC in the first place. Make the job such that, after 1 or 2 terms, they will beg to leave. No more free this or subsidized that; no opting out of laws or carve outs for special interests; no having outside entities write the laws; limit size of staff; no retirement (invest in 401K, like most other employees & take it with you when you leave); no omnibus bills or Christmas ornaments; annual budget bill requirements (no CRs allowed!); if government or the country shuts down, the entire legislative branch should be shut down & they must work for no pay until the crisis is resolved; and most of all, bring back ACCOUNTABILITY. Until that last one is equally applied & strenuously enforced, the swamp and its stench will continue to grow, whether they sit for one term or twenty.
The court response of “why didn’t you say something about it (election law changes) before it happened” issue is where I departed the Trump train. Trump made it clear that they would be “watching” the 2018 election. What happened? Nothing. It happened again in 2020; Trump and his people complained about…everything, and what happened? Nothing. Doing NOTHING seems to be the underlying issue with Trump and his team. I smelled something each time. And now we know because here we are. The results of nothing being done to fix the issue is where we are.
Taking criticism from “the other side” is easier because of the polarized opinion we have of that other side. When I think of the word taking in this regard I believe it’s easy because we discount it as not valid. If I approach your opinion as invalid I can dismiss it. That’s not taking it that’s dismissing it. We’re all guilty.
I still have not figured out how to get notices so I can participate live.
Great ending to this episode! It really warms my heart to see Bill’s reaction. To Julius- I pray that you stay safe and succeed in all you do here. Thank you for coming to join our great country and even more for volunteering to serve. I am proud to call you my fellow patriot and countryman. Godspeed!
I like your idea about seeing serving in congress as “jury duty”; 80-90% would vote for such a candidate: yes. . . until the abortion question comes up: then, either way (pro live or pro death) 40% or more are immediately lost. Remedies?
I’d be interested in targeting squishes. I’m great at walking precincts and I can pick up and go anywhere. I’m also interested in the BarStool Fund charity started by Dave Portnoy: Help out those who’ve been stomped on by the elites.
I ran for central committee – once – about ten years ago. I pocketed more votes than anyone else who lost. (I lost.) And learned the meaning of the word “entrenched.”
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What do I think we should do….. the first thing we should do is to come to grips with who and what we are confronted with. IMHO the real leadership of the Democratic Party are not the corrupt and decaying Octogenarian figureheads of Pelosi, Biden, Feinstein and their toadies Schiff, Nadler and Schumer etal. They are merely corruptocrats for sale to the highest bidder.
The DNI Radcliff report has been delivered to congress… it was done so shortly after the vote for Biden on the 6th….. almost immediately the leftist assembly went into meltdown mode demanding the immediate Impeachment of President Trump after attempting to coerce VP Pence into using the 25th to remove Trump… WHY?? they won didn’t they???…… why the hysteria??
The reason for this as I understand it is that the report exposes the complicity of the governments of Italy, Germany, Venezula and China in the computer rigging exercise (and in the Case of China the flagrant bribery and extortion of sitting members (include those named in the first paragraph). How did this come to be…. who is behind it??? a very astute and articulate individual (Catherine Austin Fitts) refers to this political entity as Mr Global….
The reason they Hate Trump is because he threw a wrench into their agenda… and the reason they fear him is because he speaks directly to us and we are listening….
Mr Global wants one thing and only one thing…. World governance run by those who belong to the club… Which club??? BIS, IMF, World Bank, UN, WHO, etc ad nauseum….
If you wish to know who the real “Masters of the Universe” are then look at the board members advisors appointees of those organizations… the same names over and over…. they truly believe that they are our betters and that we should numbly kneel to their authority.
NOW… about what I think we should do….
The first thing is to cut off the source of their influence… stop all support to the corrupt institutes of higher learning… they have turned our children against us, and against their own future… before you send your son or daughter to a university, do a little research… identify the uber leftists professors and inform the admissions board that these particular individuals are not acceptable and unless replaced you will look elsewhere to spend your money.
The second thing falls in line with the first…. stop shopping at businesses that promote things like BLM, Antifa, social justice wokeism ad nauseum….
Three… get to know your neighbours… you will find out in pretty short order who has their head screwed on right and who is in favor of globalist governance… if the latter can be educated well and good… if not ditch them because they will invariably turn you in to whatever authoritarian force they rely upon deal with enemies of the state they serve.
Four… make sure your own house is in order…. eliminate as many financial liabilities as you can…. train and become proficient at self defense (builds confidence and self respect) make this a family exercise so all may enjoy and besides it builds stronger family bonds.
Five…. If you wish to participate in politics study the field before jumping in… when you stick your head into that world, there are many individuals and entities that are extremely adept at removing it….
These are a few things that come to mind… more later as I ponder…
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Bill, the case “is” made. The good decent people have already had enough. Now the communist have stolen our government and have total control over our lives and they are making it plain what they intend to do to us. We have lost our country to this evil trash. Give me liberty or give me death.
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I’d like to see you move the TSL questions request off of facebook Bill. Your page is public and i’m pretty sure that leftist friends, colleagues, clients of your followers get to see the questions we ask, thus exposing those poor souls to our “hate speech” and risking our relationships. Please move those posts to gab or parler or some other non-leftist platform, because sooner or later you are going to get cancelled on there anyway. Personally, i have one very anti-Trump client, who is a bit of an old hippie, but who is a very good client to work with that ii wouldn’t want to lose just because he saw my fb posts to your page.
This conversation would be fascinating in a year from now.
You be you, Bill. Do not worry about these people who have gone off the rails. Trust your instincts. They are good.
How would a legally binding contract to not run for re-election work?
Who would enforce it?
I can imagine the language and the stated penalties for breaching that contract, but who would have the authority to enforce it?
Anyone who has endured the last few months wanted and wants to get up out of the mud (and other stuff) the people who were meeting in the Capitol Building were adding to and wanted them to lie “Peacefully” in and fight back.
Recovering the electoral process is a very worthy cause. But it a slow, long process that will not yield up satisfaction for some time.
Maybe organizing that rally better, with Natural Centurions assigned to make certain everyone went directly to home without doing $200 worth of damage to the Capitol Building would have helped.
But … woulda, coulda, shoulda
What they wanted is clear. What was needed is clear. What is need now … Time Out for everyone to get their heads straight.
I’d start with not bothering to argue about how the election was stolen. The Truth is out there. It will not take long for people to experience the Full Biden, the most boring variant of Bubonic Plague in the history of Bubonic Plagues, and admit the election was stolen. And mourn that it was stolen.
Try and feel pity for those people then. It makes you a Better Person. Not that being a better person than them in this one regard is all that difficult.
Also, the Truth of what started that violence is hard to live with. Platitudes, and cliches, and Truisms, and Wishes and Fishes will not make it any easier to live with that Truth.
Anyone who has endured the last few months wants to get up out of the mud (and other stuff) the people who were meeting in the Capitol Building were adding to and wanted them to lie “Peacefully” in and fight back.
Recovering the electoral process is a very worthy cause. But it a slow, long process that will not yield up satisfaction for some time.
Maybe organizing that rally better, with Natural Centurions assigned to make certain everyone went directly to home without doing $200 worth of damage to the Capitol Building would have helped.
But … woulda, coulda, shoulda
What they wanted is clear. What was needed is clear. What is needed now … Time Out for everyone to get their heads straight.
I’d start with not bothering to argue about how the election was stolen. The Truth is out there. It will not take long for people to experience the Full Biden, the most boring variant of Bubonic Plague in the history of Bubonic Plagues, and admit the election was stolen. And mourn that it was stolen.
Try and feel pity for those people then. It makes you a Better Person. Not that being a better person than them in this one regard is all that difficult.
Also, the Truth of what started that violence is hard to live with. Platitudes, and cliches, and Truisms, and Wishes and Fishes will not make it any easier to live with that Truth.
The protests at the Capitol may have been the first time in many years that politicians and political reporters were forced to realize that the endless games they play have effect on real American citizens’ lives. And that at least some of those citizens really do not like what the politicians have been doing.
Bill, I think what’s missing is the definition of when the violence will be justified – i.e. if they keep on boiling the frog on taking away our freedoms, what is the increment of degree at which point fighting back physically IS warranted. We can’t trust the Federal government to investigate corruption and fraud. We can still be effective at the state level, but their will be increasing creep of the Federal government into our lives. The violence occurred most because people felt like there were no other options – but I still think there are. At what point, however, would violent revolution be justified? Because that point does exist.
Also, I think that maybe the one-term thing should actually be two terms: Two terms were good enough for George Washington, it makes sense to me that that is the national standard we stand for.
To Julius, the patriot who came here from Lithuania and is about to enter the life-changing experience that is the US military, I say thank you and God’s speed. You will find out things about yourself that you never suspected, as many of us did when we went through the same experience, and pretty much all of them will make you better.
Bill, I’m going to respectively disagree about the protest at the Capitol. Like the original Tea Party, sometimes you just have to piss people off enough to shake up the “level heads” who hopefully will now realize that they have to do something. I expect that the democrats will overdo and create yet more rage and hopefully get even more level headed people to get off their butts. Were I much younger, I would join you by running for local office. I joined a local city in the 70’s and after seven years became a director in that city and realized that I didn’t want to run for City Council and mix with those rather dumb egomaniacs. Went into private business and gave up on California ten years ago and retired to Ecuador. I’ll support you monetarily, but personally I’m happy to be well away.
Hey, quiet about Ecuador. Don’t want too many people to know. (Personally, I favor Salinas.)
Bill, everyone – please see what Gab has to say about the banning of President Trump on Facebook, You Tube, and soon Twitter in the link below:
Gab is the free speech social network. Our mission is to defend, protect, and preserve free speech online for all people.
https://news.gab.com/2021/01/06/president-trump-on-gab-com/
If you aren’t on Gab, please consider it. Delete your Facebook and Twitter accounts. I have never been on either one, and thankful for it. I am on Gab. Andrew Torba seems to be one of us.
What gives me hope in Bill’s plan is that despite the elitists in Washington owning every foot and square of our system (education, the courts, the media, the news media, Hollywood etc etc), their preferred Democrat apparatus is not winning these elections by massive blowouts. Yes, I know they’re cheating, but if they cheated in an election and saw that they were getting 90% of the vote, they would not hide that fact in the results; they would more than happy to use their success as a referendum for their fiscally/socially suicidal policies. These bastards CAN be beaten legitimately without ever having fired a single bullet. It’s just going to be a matter of us . . . of we the people . . . making it a reality. As Bill said in another video, WE’RE THE KRAKEN AND IT’S HIGH TIME FOR US TO GET UNLEASHED!
Until they start shooting at us, there are no guns in the solution!
What you said in American Army is the truth and the solution if you can present the case you presented to us to MANY more Americans who are lost in the wilderness.
This is a legitimately good idea that I’m happy to see attempted. The only obstacle I see is the elitists’ (nearly said left, but as you said, both the Republicans and the Democrats are part of the problem) using their stranglehold over social media to suppress information against their candidates while doing everything to kill ours. Big Tech remains a problem no matter what we do, but given how close things were on November 3rd despite the cheating, perhaps it’s a problem that can be accounted for.
What if we take this seriously and strategically begin efforts to win back the Democrat strongholds in Michigan, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Chicago and Milwaukee? Republicans have abandoned those places as a lost cause, but if we can somehow bypass the blue wall over there with Citizen Party operatives, we can dismantle the voter fraud machine in these places and turn things around.
One thing is for certain however: This IS going to take a LOT time and a LOT of money as we’ll be fighting the Republicans AND the Democrats. As Mitch McConnell showed us in 2014, he is NOT willing to relinquish power so easily and will readily CRUSH conservative opponents to get what he wants. But if we can channel the anger we saw on Wednesday into something like this, it CAN work. We just have to try with all of our might. As far as I’m concerned, this is the last option we have before secession, independence and revolt.
Nonetheless, I feel you have justified your DEMAND for more members to join. This message needs to be pushed out to as many members as possible.
One additional thing I’ll add is that we need to start accounting for ways to deal with Big Tech when they inevitably start taking your videos down through one means or another. I believe we’ve got some tech guys here who might be able to assist with alternative platforms, but let me know if you need some legal minds as well just in case we need to go down that road.
The reason things got out of control is because for most Americans if something doesn’t effect their daily lives and comfort, it doesn’t exist. If it does effect them and it’s something that is just a minor inconvenience, they will work around it and just complain about it but do nothing. By the time it is beyond their control, there is not much they can do about it or have the ambition and willpower to.
Again, in our normal animalistic behavior patterns, the first thought is to strike out with violence to remove the threat. Words don’t work as quickly as swords. I get that. It takes great skill to convince people to create change over time with words than instantly with violence, but the result is longer lasting and better in the end.
If we get this fixed, eternal vigilance is necessary so this doesn’t happen again.
I love the idea of running locally, but here in The People’s Republic of Arlington we just had school board elections, with predictable results. The teachers have kept our schools closed all year, and we had three candidates. One was a hard core leftist whose cornerstone is racial injustice, and her main policy push is removing SROs from schools. She also paid lip service to reopening teh schoold, while the two candidates who said nothing about reopening got endorsed by the local Democrats. Guess who won.
And moving isn’t an option right now, but I have a bad feeling by the end of the year that might change, depending on how badly the Democrats want to destroy half of the country
About the executions, Bill. What is your feelings about what we did to the Native American tribes? That was totally immoral and a disgrace to America. This is our most disgusting thing we have to live with and will remain a scar upon us. They were right to resist, but all that got them was death.
Bill “I don’t know what they want to do.” Allow me to elaborate.
(A) Point 3 is key. I have seen calls to those of us who spend a great deal of time on the social media pages of their Representatives, Senators, Governor’s..ect. to note who the Democrat citizens are on those pages, and to research who the business owners are locally, and to sever all ties with them and to convince others to do the same. From the local business to the national corporation.
There are many of us who believe that the game is so rigged that we cannot compete and that we cannot win because the rules of the game are such that out defeat is preordained. By specifically targeting these Democrat businesses and taking away 74 million customers, we hope to make ourselves unable to be ignored. I have to admit, after the 6th, I am finding this strategy more and more appealing.
It’s worth a try. How can I help?
I have 2 girls, age 8 and 9. We participate in School of Choice so that they can attend a better school. Democrats in my state want to end that. I could go on and on but simply put, this is Obama’s fundamental hope and chains coming to fruition.
We are each at our own stage of the game on this, so some of these you might be ready for, others you might not be. These are the things I am promoting and suggesting others do with the caveat that they do what works for them.
My personal practice in the above areas: I canceled my Amazon account this morning because they shut down Parler’s servers for refusing to censor Conservative speech. I deleted a 11yr old Twitter account 2 days ago. I have a Parler and MeWe account. I have stopped using YouTube and use Rumble and I am exploring other social media platforms. When I get unbanned from Facebook (5 times since September for posts from 6 months to 5 years ago that they delete so I cannot know what I was suspended for) I will cease all of my operations (22k member political group and private business) and inform the people in my groups of alternate meeting locations.
I spend most of my time on my Representative’s, Senator’s, and Governor’s social media pages and I make note of the extremists. I have a running list of local business owners in the West Michigan area and I promote that others not do business with them. I have printed copies that I post on bulletin boards at grocery stores and other public places.
I have identified friends and family who are celebrating what is being done to Trump and Conservatives, who are celebrating the censorship and I am cutting all ties. This goes beyond ideological differences at the dinner table. These are events that in my mind are going to directly impact in a profoundly negative way the world my girls are going to inherit. As any good parent would, I take threats to my girls very seriously.
We are in a de facto state of war with Democrats and we are where we are at today because Democrats have known for the last 10+ years and we did not. 74 million of us need to unify like we did in 2010 as the TEA Party.
These are all short term, right now, activities that mesh together with Bill’s long term goals of a grass roots movement to take back our city and state Governments. I think both plans are critical as I do not believe we will win another national election or state election in blue states until we win and change the laws at the local level.
Bill, I first started watching Stratosphere 270 on YouTube and heard your response to a comment from the YouTube platform.
Does your media staff cull through both the YouTube platform comments and the billwhittle.com comments arising from your variety of posts or do you attempt to read all of them?
Look into what BREXIT Party did. They were est. in 2019 and now have many members of Parliament. In just 18 months!!!
https://www.thebrexitparty.org/about/
Name recognition isn’t necessary if the people recognize the party.
Unlikely – look at how effectively the GOP hamstrung the Tea Party once they figured out they couldn’t control it (Watch The Rageaholic’s latest (fittingly) profanity laden tirade towards the John McCain. And of course, we see what the GOPe has done to Trump
Bill the second you said ‘one term contract’ I said no way. If we find our next George Washington just to watch him leave office, we’re nuts. But… I kept listening and I’ve pondered this for a bit. This IS what you have to do to build a foundation. Things can change in time, but to get your foot in the door, I think that will sell.
Also gives all of the power to the bureaucrats