Don’t worry about piracy at the pump. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has the cure for high gas prices…just buy an electric vehicle (starting price $46,000). Can ‘Mayor’ Pete save us from highway robbery with a new Tesla?
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38 replies on “There Is No Electric Solution: ‘Mayor’ Pete’s Cure for Piracy at the Pump…Just Buy a Tesla”
“Anyone who Rejects TRUTH will always LIE about his reason for doing so”
“Pretending to ‘want’ self-correction will get you NOTHING”
“look until you SEE”
They only think in terms of everyone living in the city because that’s where they want us all to live. The proletariat are easier to control when consolidated to a small area.
It’s not about eliminating the use of fossil fuels. It’s about control and they’re just using that and anything else associated with ‘climate change’ and Covid as tools. Control of you and control of your movement.
I purchased a Ford CMax in 2015. Between fuel savings and income tax rebates, it paid for itself in less than 6 years. It died a valiant death by successfully defending my wife from a crazed white tail deer. That’s another story. But the fuel savings averaged $7,000 per year. I volunteered to fill the tank every month every month just to be able to calculate the numbers. 52 cents to charge it for an average of 20 miles. Charge it at home and at work. My wife burned the gas on long errands around town and our out of town trips at a staggering 40mpg.
I am a capitalist. I purchased the Ford CMax because it made economic sense. It’s fuel swings both ways. Gas goes up, use electric. Electric gets that high or the availability is down, use gas. It wins either way.
Ford built these for only five years because an electric hybrid wasn’t popular enough against the gas and diesel vehicles. Even the environmentalists weren’t putting their money where their mouth is.
I just bought a Ram 1500 EcoDiesel. It gets 30 MPG, and the tank is big enough that I could fill it up in Dallas wanting to drive up to Yellowstone, and get to Cheyenne, WY before I had to stop for fuel. Maybe Cody.
Next, the FDA chief will tell everyone who’s upset about skyrocketing food prices, “Just buy a grocery store!”
All of you science geeks, please correct me if I am wrong.
But when Presidentish Joe Biden said, “Imagine a world with no fossil fuels,” I did. I got as far as…
No fossil fuels means no plastics industry.
No fossil fuels and no plastics means no aerospace industry.
No plastics means no electronics industry.
And at that point it got too depressing and I stopped.
Am I wrong here? So far as I can tell, “imagining a world with no fossil fuels” mean imagining a world with no GPS, no internet, no Google Maps, and no synthetics of any kind. Basically we drop about a century and a half.
No?
Not to mention that if there are no fossil fuel fired power plants and all cars are electric, the solar and wind capacity of this country needs to be enlarged by a factor of 30 or more.
It is possible to make the hydrocarbons that compose fossil fuels. It has been done on a very small scale, starting with H2O and CO2. Trouble is, the first and second laws of thermodynamics exist. It takes a LOT more energy to make hydrocarbons than you get by burning it. Right now, only nuclear could scale up to produce the energy necessary. And we might run out of fission fuel or room to put the reactors and/or waste. Fusion might do it, but, alas, it does not exist yet. Neither does anti-matter and matter energy production….or any other yet fictional sources; like a singularity engine. If anyone thinks solar and/ or wind can do it, send them to me. I have a bridge, well watered bottom lands (swamp) or investment (Ponzie scheme) to sell them. Heck, se!l them all three!
Precisely. For practical purposes, and for the foreseeable future:
No fossil fuels means no plastics industry. No fossil fuels and no plastics means no aerospace industry. No plastics means no electronics industry.
Many years ago, there were several videos done detailing all of the products that would go away if we no longer refined oil into other uses. It was startling even then.
They oil companies really need to push back and redo those videos to let everyone know what they are really giving up.
Here is one from a couple of years ago. I watched the beginning and it looks promising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35INI7huDQU
Great news PETE just suggested TAKE THE BUS to save money. Apparently this jerk has never been to rural America.
How long does it take to charge up one of these cars? I once traveled from Los Angeles to Memphis in a rented box truck, helping a friend move. Averaging 500 miles a day, it took us 3 1/2 days. When my brother got out of the navy back in the 80’s, he traveled from the west coast to home on the east coast in less than 2 days. The freewheeling days of the cross country road trip would be over.
We are being ruled by psychopaths and tyrants. Why are we allowing this to happen?
Right Bill, remember when air and water at the gas stations were free?
Let’s not forget about the mice chewing up the tesla’s wiring since several of the internal wires were insulated with soy rather than oil.
Tesla will not cover the cost of replacing any of the wiring, nor will insurance cover the cost. Cha-ching to the owners.
You guys keep talking about Tesla. But the Feds don’t want you to buy a Tesla. They want you to buy a GM (ideally) or a Ford. Electric cars built by union labor filling Democrat coffers.
This isn’t mine, I copied and pasted, but it’s another consideration when it comes to electric vehicles and makes a lot of sense IMHO.
This is an excellent breakdown.
Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?”
Einstein’s formula, E=MC2, tells us it takes the same amount of energy to move a five-thousand-pound gasoline-driven automobile a mile as it does an electric one. The only question again is what produces the power? To reiterate, it does not come from the battery; the battery is only the storage device, like a gas tank in a car.
There are two orders of batteries, rechargeable, and single-use. The most common single-use batteries are A, AA, AAA, C, D. 9V, and lantern types. Those dry-cell species use zinc, manganese, lithium, silver oxide, or zinc and carbon to store electricity chemically. Please note they all contain toxic, heavy metals.
Rechargeable batteries only differ in their internal materials, usually lithium-ion, nickel-metal oxide, and nickel-cadmium. The United States uses three billion of these two battery types a year, and most are not recycled; they end up in landfills. California is the only state which requires all batteries be recycled. If you throw your small, used batteries in the trash, here is what happens to them.
All batteries are self-discharging. That means even when not in use, they leak tiny amounts of energy. You have likely ruined a flashlight or two from an old, ruptured battery. When a battery runs down and can no longer power a toy or light, you think of it as dead; well, it is not. It continues to leak small amounts of electricity. As the chemicals inside it run out, pressure builds inside the battery’s metal casing, and eventually, it cracks. The metals left inside then ooze out. The ooze in your ruined flashlight is toxic, and so is the ooze that will inevitably leak from every battery in a landfill. All batteries eventually rupture; it just takes rechargeable batteries longer to end up in the landfill.
In addition to dry cell batteries, there are also wet cell ones used in automobiles, boats, and motorcycles. The good thing about those is, ninety percent of them are recycled. Unfortunately, we do not yet know how to recycle single-use ones properly.
But that is not half of it. For those of you excited about electric cars and a green revolution, I want you to take a closer look at batteries and also windmills and solar panels. These three technologies share what we call environmentally destructive production costs.
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
It should concern you that all those toxic components come from mining. For instance, to manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth’s crust for just – one – battery.”
Sixty-eight percent of the world’s cobalt, a significant part of a battery, comes from the Congo. Their mines have no pollution controls, and they employ children who die from handling this toxic material. Should we factor in these diseased kids as part of the cost of driving an electric car?”
I’d like to leave you with these thoughts. California is building the largest battery in the world near San Francisco, and they intend to power it from solar panels and windmills. They claim this is the ultimate in being ‘green,’ but it is not. This construction project is creating an environmental disaster. Let me tell you why.
The main problem with solar arrays is the chemicals needed to process silicate into the silicon used in the panels. To make pure enough silicon requires processing it with hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, nitric acid, hydrogen fluoride, trichloroethane, and acetone. In addition, they also need gallium, arsenide, copper-indium-gallium- diselenide, and cadmium-telluride, which also are highly toxic. Silicon dust is a hazard to the workers, and the panels cannot be recycled.
Windmills are the ultimate in embedded costs and environmental destruction. Each weighs 1688 tons (the equivalent of 23 houses) and contains 1300 tons of concrete, 295 tons of steel, 48 tons of iron, 24 tons of fiberglass, and the hard to extract rare earths neodymium, praseodymium, and dysprosium. Each blade weighs 81,000 pounds and will last 15 to 20 years, at which time it must be replaced. We cannot recycle used blades.
There may be a place for these technologies, but you must look beyond the myth of zero emissions.
“Going Green” may sound like the Utopian ideal but when you look at the hidden and embedded costs realistically with an open mind, you can see that Going Green is more destructive to the Earth’s environment than meets the eye, for sure.
Nailed it!
Just to tag on to your windmill post, also think about…
All that, and there’s more. Epoxies and urethanes don’t come from the rear end of Unicorns. The good ones are made from petrolium. And to convert oil to epoxy or polyurethanes take energy, heat and lots of chemicals which also have to be made from sources other than Unicorns.
In the Pacific Northwest, we use hydroelectric. Water is flowing anyway. It’s clean.
But the environmentalists says it’s not renewable and don’t consider it part of their green energy sources.
Whenever I hear such foolishness from the Demonrats, I ask them, 1. Have you ever taken an economics course? (A: Yes.) 2. Did you pass it? (A: Yes.) Then I tell them, “You need to DEMAND A REFUND!”
DEM fools and politicians live in a world far far away from the real world most of us live in.
I have come to a point in my life where I’ve made enough money to have 2 vehicles. I bought a Ford F150 in 2017 and it’s paid for. One year before that, I began leasing an electric Smart car from Mercedes Benz. After the lease was up, I leased a 2nd one, and this year bought it when the lease was up. Love that little tiny electric car. A whoppping 17 KWh of battery, 3-4 hours to charge on Level 2 (at home). Plus, Mercedes Benz was so in need of ‘selling’ (read leasing) high miliage cars in California so they could sell their low milage gas guzzelers, MB was leasing me a car for $130 a month. Practically giving away ‘compliance cars’. Cheap, when compared to a BMW or Tesla 3 or larger.
Here’s the deal. I have an 8 mile one way commute to work. Max range for my little car is a whopping 90 miles when I’m being really light footed.
The other deal is, the insane socialists in the City and County of Santa Cruz have refused to widen the California Highway 1 which goes the length of the county. Because Santa Cruz is a seaside tourist/bedroom community for Silicon Valley, (plus a univeristy of California and a community college), each morning about a half million folks try to get from their homes to Facebook/google/netflix HQ’s (or UCSC) on this 4 lane highway. Morning and then evening on the go-home commute.
It takes me almost 1 hour to go 8 miles. Bill, sound somewhat familiar? With the tiny electric car I drive, I am really really,,,,,really effecient going 8 miles an hour or slower. When I drive the pickup…as I’m sitting there going almost nowhere…I’m still buring and burning gas. And at now, $5.60 /gal in Santa Cruz, CA, I drive the Ford less and less.
With all that said, E cars are great 2nd cars. Just try loading up a Tesla or BMW or Volkswagen E car with crap from the yard to head to the county landfill….or get a 4×8 sheet of plywood and a stack of 2×4’s from Home Depot, or tow my little travel trailer with an tiny Ecar (or a big E-car). Not going to happen. My primary car has to be a gas car, IMO, for any other reason besides surviving a crappy work commute.
Governor man child Gavin Newsome’s an idiot for pushing the 2035 MANDATE of no gas cars sold in California. Or Generators. Or leaf blowers.
Even with the safety technology in the Smart, you need to drive carefully. My brother had a Smart, for much the same reason as you, in the Chicago area. He was cut off by a full size SUV while merging onto the expressway. (during rush hour, which meant speeds of 20-30 mph.) The impatient SUV roared around him on the on-ramp, clipped the Smart and sent it literally rolling down the road.
The safety cage construction worked as advertised and kept my brother alive. But he had a concussion from banging his head on the roof pillars and a broken ankle and leg injuries from his feet being crushed in the footwell. Had to be cut from the wreckage by Firefighters. The car was just no match for the sheer mass of that SUV.
Phil, I know. I really know. I watched the YT vids of crushing, rolling, and impacting Smarts. Seriously a toss up, and I rolled the dice. I’ve always been an insanely defensive driver, but now, as rules go out the window like empty vape cannisters and Flamin’ Hot Cheeto’s bags, I’ve become EXTREMELY insanely defensive in my driving. Where I live and in Silicon Valley, stop signs and lights are extremely optional. Todays driver’s motto is : Yellow means speed up, and Red means, “oh sh!t, I should have gone faster!…..oh well”. Never, EVER be the first one at the light taking off on the green without pausing for the rando idiot coming from either side, and only entering the intersection by not just ‘looking’, but ‘seeing’ and understanding that both sides have stopped.
On the Freeway, if you ever get up to speed, traffic comes to sudden halts. Sucks to be the last in the stopped line. I watched to the left of me a texting driver plow at 50+ into the ass end of that last in line stopped driver. Literally watched in happen in my side view and out my side window. I drive on the freeway now with 2 eyes looking foward and one eye in the rear view mirror, constantly scanning for the dirt bag texter coming up on me at speed. I’m a right hand laner constantly leaving room in front of me for evasive maneuvers to the shoulder.
With all that said, I’ve been the victim of 4 rear end accidents. 1 in my old Plymouth Minivan, and the other 3 in my old Sprinter Van. All 4 hurt like hell, and the last one so much that I felt like I got the Dale Earnhardt effect. My molars and lower jaw hurt like hell for weeks later. I am aware that the SMART’s “Tridion Safey Cage” and 8 airbags are there only to prevent getting torn apart. A roll like a 410 sprint car – end over end over end, is going to hurt like hell too. So will a barrel multi roll.
Thank you for caring enough to write that warning. I take driving really seriously as you have just read. I’m sure your brother was a very serious driver before the SUV cut him off, and I hope he’s doing better now. If he’s still driving, no matter what car he’s in, I’m sure he’s even a more serious defensive driver now.
But really, thanks.
The R/A guys did a piece on how many electric power plants would be required to be built every week just to get us to the point where everyone can have a Pete wet dream of an all electric vehicle future. I cant recall if it was a backstage or an actual right angle, but I do recall that it was something to the effect of a new nuclear power plant every 2 weeks, but that would be compressed because they have not even begun yet, with no plans to begin anytime soon.
Elon Musk just needs to build one or two REALLY MASSIVE nuke plants in orbit, then beam down (microwave) power to charge all those E-cars!
It would accomplish two goals:
1) Provide the necessary infrastructure to achieve the pipe-dream of electric society,
B) Cement his legacy as the IRL D.D. Harriman! (see Heinlein; The Man Who Sold The Moon)
Go, D.D., Go!
As ghostbuster Dr. Egon Spangler said to Dr. Peter Venkman…”Do NOT cross the streams. This can cause a chain reaction, which may lead to total protonic reversal”….
In other words, watch where you’re walking….’mind the beam’.
“Oh, Ray, the sponges migrated about a foot and a half.”
“let them eat cake” sounds familiar. Sheez.
The current average capacity of a EV car battery is 60kw and will only get larger. The average family uses about 20kw daily with efficient homes less than that. Lets say you run your EV car to 50% of it’s battery capacity and charge at home each day, Pretty much expect your electric bill to double or more. Another little inconvenient fact is that if you factor in the power capacity of your neighborhood, at best out of 10 homes maybe add 3 maybe 4 electric cars before you need a transformer change to that area. Another inconvenient fact is while most new homes have 200 amp service, many are still at 100 amp with a lot still sitting at 60amp which was standard during the 50’s housing boom. This is important because your current load depends on how fast you can pump 30-60kw back into that battery! Conservation of energy laws baby. Hoo boy, we gonna need a lot of copper and oil/gas for the electric generation plants to support this green energy. hah!
You leave Mayor Pete alone. He’s still recovering from childbirth.
With complications involving chest feeding.
Ewww to both of you!
BTW, nice “Spirits In the Material World” reference in the show’s title.
They are trying to destroy our ability to travel freely. These electric vehicles can be taken away by the company (and thus the government) with the click of a button. They may be “cool” now but the moment you have too much wrong think they will take away your “cool” toy in two second. These people are incredibly evil.
The average annual salary in the U.S. is $47,520. Yea, Americans want to spend a year’s salary on an electric vehicle to go along with the other inflationary prices they’re already paying. Uh, No.
Many years ago, when wind turbines in the Atlantic were going to save the planet; some engineer did an analysis of how many turbines would need to be installed to allow the east coast cities to be only wind powered.
He factored in times of low wind, maintenance; very well done.
He came up with a grid that stretched from MN to FL and was more than a dozen deep (to the east).
It was a ridiculous number and he did the analysis to show the futility.
A similar analysis of power required at night in a country of 200,000,000 vehicles needs to be done.
You would see very quickly that there is insufficient generating power to change all vehicles to EV. Therefore the end game must include vehicles only for a small percentage of the citizenry. The plebes can take the bus, or bike, or train.
Think taking people’s weapons is hard; try and take our keys at the same time.
I recently read somewhere (and I’d give a credit to the site if I could remember where I read this) that if we were to transition all vehicles to all electric then to meet the power demand we’d need to bring a nuke plant online every 4 months for the next 20 years.
This doesn’t take into account that many transmission systems are already under maximum load and barely function in times of stress so more transmission lines would be needed too.
Nor does it factor in the steadily growing power demand for non-vehicular applications as the need increases into the future.
It really boggles the mind how the people who are so adamant about electric vehicles can be so preposterously opposed to nuclear electrical generation plants.
Because an electric vehicle isn’t a magic solution. If you don’t get your grid power from nukes then you’re actually operating a coal, oil or liquid natural gas powered vehicle. Due to the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy* the same amount of combustion has to be done, it’s just being done somewhere besides onboard the vehicle. It doesn’t matter even a little bit if the combustion is occurring in a lot of great big power plants or millions of small internal combustion engines in individual vehicles.
In fact, because of losses in efficiency due to mechanical and transmission issues you actually have to burn more fuel to get the same amount of horsepower to drive wheels.
There is only one option currently available to humanity to meet that sort of energy demand with minimum ecological impact so of course the Crazy Eddies** of the Left want to ban that particular, obvious nuclear power generating sort of system.
(*The total mass and energy before a reaction in a closed system equals the total mass and energy after the reaction.)
(** From Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle’s novel “The Mote in God’s Eye”.)
Want to freak a “green” energy person out? Ask them how much space all of the Nuclear Waste generated in the US, ever, takes. They will argue with you vehemently over the actual size.
There’s a reason that every mandate to be “carbon free” by the year 2XXX never includes an actual plan. Math is the enemy of The Radical Left