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Trump Tariffs On Chinese Goods Succeed in Bringing Jobs Home…to Vietnam

Walter Russell Mead in The Wall Street Journal says the way to beat China is indirectly — by promoting the ambitions of other Asian nations.

Trump administration’s tariffs on Chinese goods, meant in part to on-shore manufacturing jobs back to the U.S.A., succeed in bringing jobs home…to Vietnam. Walter Russell Mead in The Wall Street Journal says the way to beat China is indirectly — by promoting the ambitions of other Asian nations.

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19 replies on “Trump Tariffs On Chinese Goods Succeed in Bringing Jobs Home…to Vietnam”

We were doing pretty well at keeping Asia on our side for a long time… Until the Scarborough Shoals incident happened. We negotiated between China and the Philippines to get both sides out of the Shoals. China didn’t leave, then when Philippines asked us to back up the diplomatic agreement the Obama administration declined to follow up on their word. This is why the Philippines is vacillating, South Korea is realigning with China, and many other countries are doing the same. We need to follow through on our agreements if we’re going to be in a good place in the area.

Posted on Rumble: I don’t understand why People aren’t looking at the obvious basic premise when it comes to the virus. Man-made (with the help of the U.S., sequenced with 4 additional unknown RNA additions), released at the end of Oct 2019 at the Military Wuhan games INTENTIONALLY, where 10,000 top military athletes were competing and all returned to their respective countries showing no signs of infection. It is clear when speaking to Medical professionals that this virus was ACTIVE in DEC of 2019 in the U.S., they just didn’t know it was a new strain of virus, and the Govt covered until the end of Jan. 2020.
China basically took the entire world to it’s knees and all they did was sacrifice a few million in Wuhan, simple stacked wood for the Chinese in exchange to weaken their enemies. It accomplished everything they would want – take the U.S. down, create world food shortages, fuel shortages, and everything else that we have YET to confront.
Why is that so hard to believe? We are at war, and we are the only ones that don’t know it.

So my wife informed China is trying to create babies invitro and parents can order certain features in the child and they could be trying to create a super army by selecting certain genes. Have you heard anything like this? It would not surprise me.

Steve at 11:40: 450M US vs. 350M China population @ year 2100. Any links available for that data? My quick search gave me:
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2020/07/forecast-for-china-population-to-halve-by-2100.html
https://www.populationpyramid.net/china/2100/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/09/03/chinas-population-to-drop-by-half-immigration-helps-us-labor-force/?sh=4fd866603d65
That 350M figure might more realistically end up at 750M??
My thinking had been that the US would have to grow to the 450M range (via native population + responsible contributing legal immigrants) to be better prepared to match the hegemony of China’s 1.3+B people. I don’t mind changing my outlook when the facts change, but a drop to 350M Chinese seems to be an overstatement. Still, tricky to make projections even of demographics over an 80+ year period.

Guess the same puter said that which could tell the what the temperature will be in 2050 with .05 degree precision while can’t tell it for the next day with +- 5 degree using all the measuring equipment at hand.

OTOH we can simply guess the method, Bill mentioned the precondition that the reproduction rate is and remains 1 per pair. We have 80 years to that, that matches the life expectancy, so by 2100 we have only the new generations.
To sustain the population you need 2/2 rate. At 1/2 the population is halved with each generation. If we estimate the generation distance to 35 years, it’s 2 generations so we halve twice in 70 years, the remaining 10 can compensate for we didn’t account for the age distribution. 1.4G/4 gives the desired figure.
Certainly you can feed it with any other ratio beyond the arbitrary 1.0 and get to any figure you desire and call it “science” in today’s newspeak.

i spent a year in vietnam. granted that was 50 years ago but i do remember them as industrious, clever and willing.

to say that china will lose over a billion people in in 90 years is a 100m a year. that’s a lot of shrink my friends.

just now getting ready to watch the video, but I think if you divide 1B by 90 years, that is 11.1M per year, a more reasonable figure?

China has another problem; it makes its stuff using Australian iron, coal and grain and its picked a huge fight with both sides of Australian politics. Its been caught buying up PPE from Australia and sending Covid 19 infected people to the country, As China shut down due to Covid it reneged on several major resource contracts. Its got caught trying to insert spy’s into both major political parties, all the university and even our department of defense. It also offered testing kits and vaccines to Australia’s left wing city governments but the kits etc were all shoddy, deflective and contaminated. That looks intentional. The Trotskyite hard left has gone hard line anti-China in a flash as a result.
Australia has turned to selling the coal, iron and food to other countries and has pulled the plug on huge trade deals with China. Those deals were technically with Hong Kong front companies anyway. Without Aussy resources China’s lights go out, its factories go silent and there is no meat on the table. 

One more reason China is a Paper Tiger:
Taiwan lies only about 100 miles off the Chinese coast. But one of China’s main vulnerabilities is the Three Gorges Dam, which supplies much of China with water. Water is crucial to China. The Three Gorges Dam is only 1200 km (750 miles) from Taipei, the capital of Taiwan. Significantly, Taiwan has developed the Yun Feng missile, with a range of 1200 to 2500 km and a speed of 3700 km/h, which means Taiwan’s 50 Yun Sheng missiles could take out the dam in less than 20 minutes. I believe China knows that if one Chinese boot sets foot on Taiwanese soil, China will almost instantly cease to be a viable nation.

Good comment to bring that potential Chinese liability up for consideration. I knew about the dam vulnerability but I had not realized Taiwan had that invasion countering capability (and the prospective will to use it that way). But you also presume all parties are going to continue to be rational in their policy proposals and actions. That is probably the better way to bet, but it is not 100% guaranteed to prevail when certain leaders’ egos, etc., come into play.

i believe china is working on an umbrella defense system similar to what Israel is successfully utilizing against hamas as we post.

One other advantage of that plan: Look at what city is directly downstream of 3 Gorges.
Wuhan.
Not only would Taipei eliminate China’s water infrastructure and power generation ability, but they would also pay them back, on behalf of the world, for the crippling pandemic which has caused so much economic ruin.

One of the great strengths of the United States has always been our ability to garner allies and partners. America does this more like being a big brother to look up to and follow than like a task master driving people with a whip.

The reason America has been prone to leadership and persuasion more than dictatory policies and force is because we know from our own experience that many people around the world want to be like us. I say from our own experience because we have absorbed into our own country people from all over the world and given the opportunity and guidance they become just like us and our friends and neighbors here inside the US.

This is proof that America is not a systemically racist nation.

This is also why so many people from around the globe want to come here to America.

America cannot absorb and support everyone who would like to live here. the way to meet that challenge is to make other countries like us politically, economically and socially. In doing that we also create both allies and trading partners that increase both their and our mutual prosperity. It’s not a zero sum game, by encouraging the creation of wealth and improving the lives of people in partner nations we also increase our own prosperity and standard of living.

This is American Exceptionalism at work, the rising tide that lifts all boats. When American leadership recognizes this fact and applies it in practical foreign policy we get prosperity, peace and security. When American leadership fails in this regard we get a lagging economy, instability and war.

The Abraham Accords are an example of this sort of thing being applied properly. Coddling and encouraging enemies like Iran is an example of failure to implement this type of policy correctly. Nations that want what we have jump at the chance when it’s offered, even to the point of abandoning long standing, destabilizing historical animus. Nations like Iran love the fact that their small, weak country can place itself on a peer standing with America.

The facts are obvious and the choice is simple. More Vietnams and fewer Irans are not only good for America, they’re good for the entire world.

The multi-national corporations that moved production to China have facilities elsewhere in the world. Mexico was also a beneficiary of the tariffs levied against China as those facilities could be used to then ship to the US rather than direct from China to the US.

Yeah. It seems to me that any corporation that has facilities in countries other than the US and China can just ship all products via those alternatives if necessary to avoid tariffs. However, the rising labor costs in China can not be avoided.

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