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Right Angle: Backstage (01-19-2021)

For the many new Members, watching this interminably-long backstage meeting of Right Angle is a right of passage akin to hazing. Suck it up. Drop and give me 55 minutes, soldier.

Right Angle: Backstage (01-19-2021)

Bill Whittle celebrates the flood of new Members with a some gentle words of encouragement, and Scott Ott might appreciate them if he could hear. Stephen Green cranks up the lightning.

Thank you to our Members.

https://youtu.be/iXSNTdOr7_M

137 replies on “Right Angle: Backstage (01-19-2021)”

Perhaps I’m a naif. And, since my units were never called up for political purposes, perhaps I’m simply unaware.
However, in my 26 years of National Guard service, I never heard of anyone being ‘vetted’ for political beliefs. As officers and NCOs, we were acutely aware, without vetting, of who our troublemakers were. It was our job to keep them in hand, regardless of the situation.
And an alternate view; everyone seems to think the military is a conservative bloc. Not even close, in my experience. The split between parties is probably very close to the general population, possibly even leaning a bit left.
The military does require you to work, but think about it. You’re fed, you’re housed, you’re given a stipend. You exist in the bosom of Uncle Sam. This tends to breed dependence.
Lieutenant Colonel, retired

Nobody…NOBODY likes getting busted, be wrong and like the JFK hit, we’ll never know, it’s done so now we only have one way out….give the newly elected escapee from Bellevue enough rope and he’ll finish himself off, look what’s happened in the first few days alone, the mask hypocrisy, the fracking flip flop, the pipeline job killer and now we’re ramping up the action in Syria and Iraq, yeah AMERICA is back!!! Trump dragged us into ZERO wars and that should be the main point.

I predict the following: On the morning of Feb 4, I will wake up to watch Stephen Green in a Lightning Round say “Being President is Haaard!” . Second prediction, He’ll show a clip of Jen Psaki doing the ‘big lie gulp’ in the middle of a “flopsweat”. Ahh the good old days are back.

Anyone has a better TLDR than “cuz it’s Chinese”?
Still unclear what makes it worse than FB/T/G/Apple/etc. Those all pay for zombie joe who also play for the CCP. And tiktok is at least fun.

I only targeted TikTok because it was the only one mentioned in the video and the information of the people who use it goes directly to China, not through any other site. It was for information only, so people could know the truth.

It’s hard for me to listen to someone who talks about how we can succeed in any future national election with the level of election fraud we are eager to ignore. It seems so willfully blind.

I can’t decide if Sea Shanties are the new Pet Rock, the Mood Ring or both…….Is it the bread that goes with the circus? Step away from the bottle boys, the ship has run aground.

Scott, I for one find your opinions to be invaluable here, even when I don’t agree with them. It keeps this place from turning into an echo chamber. I’m no stranger to unpopular opinions, and I applaud you for keeping your cool when faced with backlash. That said, I think you should do an episode where you talk about these issues as Bill and Steve suggested. Sometimes you need to just vent; and given how little you do it (especially compared to Bill), there’s nothing wrong with that.

With that said, Scott, my problem isn’t that I think the Right needs to stoop to the Left’s level. It’s that the Left needs to be held to account for their cheating. If you’re playing by the same old rules while your opponent continues to cheat and win, at which point do you stop being a man of moral principle and simply become a sucker? Well, I don’t know about you, but I just got a desire to sit down and rewatch McLintock

Perhaps the reason President Trump appeared unprepared when the election was stolen even though he predicted it would be stolen is because William Barr assured him he had it all under control and Pres Trump should concentrate on other things

A conservative place that says: “Trump lost”
National Review.
But then, they don’t care about elections.

Trump had to fight. I just agree with Steve. His fight was uncoordinated toward a goal. After Scotus, Trump was essentially fighting himself.

President Trump’s coordinated goal was to save the baby—Our Republic___just like the story of King Solomon in the Bible .
In his wisdom King Solomon gave a choice to the two women who claimed the baby was theirs. He would cut the baby in half and give one half to each one. One of the women said go ahead, I’ll take my half. Her only thought was to win.The woman who truly loved the baby showed she did not want the baby to be killed.
She was the true Mother and went home with her child.

In the “Great Reset” story however, the democrats have suborned witnesses, kidnapped the baby (our Republic) and cut it in half. And now with their ungodly hubris they think they can put the baby they killed back together!!

Before we stop talking about the election, let me suggest that anyone interested in video-promotion, as in TV ads, listen to an interview that Jordan Peterson did with Gregg Hurwitz, just released this week. Hurwitz recounts how he and some wealthy Hollywood buddies donated their talents to design ads promoting Democratic candidates in swing states to moderate voters. They made a gift of these sophisticated ads, meticulously vetted, that may have been significantly effective. Fast forward to the example ad with the sexy brunette and the hard-boiled egg to see what they were capable of. Sobering. But where there are sea shanties, there is hope!

What is the name of the sea shanty everyone is listening to? I remember leave her Johnny, first time I heard many of these sea shantys was when I played Assasins Creed Black Flag

Scott, the entire effort to prove voter fraud was continually undermined by every mainstream news outlet, big tech, courts who went out of their way to avoid adjudicating the issue on the merits (which went all the way up to SCOTUS) and Republicans who only ever have any fight in them when it comes to slamming conservatives.. It wouldn’t have mattered if Winston Churchill or Thomas Jefferson himself was making the case for voter fraud occurring. They would’ve called him a nutjob conspiracy theory and blocked his message as much as possible.

With respect to your comment on Mitch McConnell waiting until the 19th to blame Trump for the riots, Mitch McConnell did not wait to say Trump caused the riots on the 19th simply because he is not allowed to speak his mind. He said it because he is a liar and a coward (and if you don’t believe that that reflects his true nature, refer back to the 2014 midterm elections where he vowed and succeeded in crushing tea party candidates); this man is no friend of yours Scott and does not deserve even an ounce of the respect you appear to be giving him. We are seeing new evidence every day that the riots that occurred on January 6, 2021 were preplanned. We have detailed investigative reports demonstrating that capitol break-ins started occurring 20 minutes before Trump even finished his speech.

I have no problem with you presenting your viewpoints Scott. You don’t piss me off in the slightest! I get the feeling that you strive to have as little cynicism as possible; that you always try to look at things with as much optimism as possible.

If they think the Republican party can survive without Trump supporters, they are as insulated as the Rhinos. We never see the Democrats not united, when are the Republicans going to do the same? The lack of support by the Republican elected officials to at least investigate the fraud, which is all most of the Republican voters were asking for, was revealing to most of the voters. If the Republicans will not support their voters, why will the voters support them? We can move from the Trump steal, if we still work towards resolving the mechanics that aided the steal. A lot of voters are disenfranchised and feel their votes don’t matter. If we don’t address this, there will be no more Republican Party, even with Trump.

Mitch McConnell is a supporter of Mitch McConnell. And I felt that well before Trump came along.

That said, perhaps someone can explain to me how Mitch McConnell will not remain the majority leader. He has fifty Senators. Schumer has forty eight Senators. Bernie Sanders has two.

Uhmm yeah, whining about whether Trump convinced people to vote in person or not doesn’t change the fact that the Blue states violated their own laws with regard to voter verification and signature matching, but, hey, whatever.

Trumps attack and defense on voter fraud was coherent but you can’t see it because All the courts went virtual using Zoom and classifying the video. So we do not see court rooms. We also saw that the DOJ and FBI was not a safe place for any evidence. You also had the situation where a dozen state Republican’s that were deeply compromised by Dominion, clearing the machines without checking them, and allowing electoral safeguards to be discarded because of Covid 19 (and that was a world wide phenomenon). There are also cases of Rudy Giuliani’s team sending documents to the courts and those documents never arrived. Someone was intercepting the mail and hand delivery was disallowed due to Covid 19. You did not see a court defense because the courts were closed and it was all on zoom and there was active sabotage in the DOJ. The arguments were valid but were never heard in a public courtroom. They had proof but they could not use it or get proper investigations.
You had no working supreme court, and may never have again.

Bill can be quite aggressive in his responses to Scott, but I think it’s more than that. A lot of the comments posted to him are much worse. It’s been like that for a while, and only seems to have escalated over the last several months. I think it’s just starting to overwhelm him.

What would the MOST EFFECTIVE strategy for Donald Trump and his campaign have been against the Fraud he predicted?

Knowing, or at least having every reason to suspect, that he would not have had the full backing of the GOP and that even with his appointments the courts at all levels would have even opposed him.

I look to the history (and by 2020 is was a HISTORY) of the relationship between the GOP, and especially the members of the House and Senate, as well as at the state level. I look to the court rulings, and not always by appointees of Obama or Clinton.

What would be the MOST EFFECTIVE response have been?

Because …

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
If turnips were watches, I’d wear one by my side.
If “ifs” and “ands” were pots and pans,
There’d be no work for tinkers‘ hands.

And the RIGHT thing to do would always be the Most EFFECTIVE thing.

I personally would not want to live in a world where Donald Trump beat the efforts in PA, WI, MI, and GA to fraudulently cheated him. Because he would have had to do it without the help of the GOP and the courts.

And been the Tyrant he was thought he would be.

Trump showed this country what Cnute could not show his courtiers, or History, that often only sees a foolish old man shouting and waving at the sea:

That he, personally, could not stop the tide from coming in.

I guess someone does not like the idea that the best Savior cannot save you from all of your own mistakes.

Unless you don’t mind finding out they’re the Devil in disguise.

They wanted to switch Masters rather than be Free?

They were simply throwing out their beliefs and talking about a need for closure but also need for being able to not become an echo chamber. To challenge us to listen and consider, even if we don’t agree.

To add a point on Dominion, Barnes said that at least in GA the D machines were most likely not used in the fraud — it was done in a different way. He concluded that from the behavior of SoS and others — they offered hand reconunt and machine inspection readily. The recount did happen and didn’t show any software-manipulation problems indeed. Only a few “forgotten” sticks. And signatures, dead voters, observation blocking, suitcases, etc were worked around.

Regardless of whether or not the machines had issues, the real problem runs much deeper than that. The officials in charge of the votes, from the governors, legislators, courts, etc. down to the the counters and handlers, broke the rules; yet nothing was actually done to correct it. It’s a loss of structural integrity, because we’ve allowed termites to be in charge of maintaining the house.

Thanks guys! Only problem I have with this is that TikTok is a Chines app as I understand it and so for that reason alone I won’t have anything to do with it. Guess I’ll just be missing out on that stuff…

Is there any practical difference between a “chinese” app and G/FB/Tw? Probably could drop Apple in the bunch too, just being smart to not be exposed will not remove major traits.
We know from wikileaks that they all collect data and gladly share it with governments and others. We know from hearings that they share data with each other to have better censorship, so can really count as a single body. I honestly fail to see any extra china could add to the wrongdoing.

Do we really believe an app from China will do more harm than our own country does with their app’s, platforms, devices, and govt. 3-letter agencies?
Did we not learn anything the past 4 years?

The reality is that Washington D.C. is infested with statists in both parties. There is only one way to correct the deep state that has launched this soft coup and that is by supporting and using the Convention of States Project. It has an umbrella that covers 3 areas under which amendments can be proposed.

  1. Limit the power and jurisdiction of the Federal Government.
  2. Puts fiscal restraints on the Federal Government (taxing and spending)
  3. Limits the terms of its officials. (House, Senate, All federal Judges, to include SCOTUS, staffs, bureaucrats and alphabet soup agencies)

This is the only way to put the Federal Government back into its Constitutional box.

Sounds great, but how do we the people get this done when the “new” administration disregards all law and Constitution?
Our elected “representatives” vote on taxing, spending, term limits, salary, etc.
So how do we get them to vote on such things?

Hi De. Our founders understood that the day would come when our National legislature would no longer respond to the needs of the people which is why they unanimously adopted the states’ route to offer these kinds of amendments. President, VP, Congress, Judges, Governors are NOT part of this process. We already have 15 states that have sent in their notice but just this week I have fielded calls from dozens of state legislators from around the country asking about what it is all of their constituents as screaming for.

I may have sounded like I’ve given up hope, but I’m really looking for a way around (or through) all the corruption.
Much like how we’ve done with snub, leave social media giants, and vote with our dollars.
I’m moving back to my home state, well known for its massive corruption history (Clintons), but at least I know what I’m walking into.
I was SO SAD to learn Colorado has caught the Cali virus . . . bad.

As Bill and others like Robert Barnes have pointed out, it’s going to require a bottom-up approach. You have roughly half the voting population that thought this election was fraudulent, including a significant number of Biden voters. The numbers are there. The problem is that the Leftwing media has convinced most that they’re isolated, shameful, and crazy.

It’s not about getting our “representatives” to vote on anything. It’s about replacing them. I’d say look for local organizations who share your values, are politically savvy, and are just as frustrated as you are. Put forward your proposals and stand by them. If they start to deviate, consider breaking away, and taking as many of their members as you can with you.

When it comes to a lawless and unconstitutional government, the question then becomes, “what are you willing to sacrifice to oppose it?” I won’t say what you should do, but as for me: I’m flexible to a fault to weather this storm. However, I’ve drawn the line at the point where they try to disarm me, and maybe even before that.

Thanks for your advice.
I’ve done just about everything I can do personally with who I give my $$ to, what platforms I’m on, etc.
Once I complete my move, I’ll start working local up.
I have drawn my line as well. Blessings to you. Stay safe.

On Scott feeling pressure to stay silent if he doesn’t toe the line with his opinions: Firstly, I hope that never happens!
Secondly, I always save my biggest censure for those I love who do something I disapprove of. Not saying Scott ‘loves’ Mr. Trump, but there are a lot of us feeling a great deal of disappointment with the President’s behavior. On top of that, we’re put in the position to either excuse or praise the President or we’re called a traitor. I actually respect Mr. Trump. I fully appreciate the terrible situation the President was faced with, all the way back to the famous “Ride Down the Escalator”. I also wish Mr. Trump had been able to rein himself in these last two months, but he’s just not that person, and he has never pretended to be anything else. I gave up judging his accomplishments by his behavior before he was elected, and over all I felt satisfied with what he was able to get done.
But to the point of not wanting anyone to criticize him, it’s not betrayal when you point out the problems with ‘your side’s’ position or actions. I’d rather someone on my side point out a problem, because I know they only want my success. If their message is hard to take, it usually involves my pride. I take it personally that anyone dares to point out a flaw. That’s on me, not on the person who’s pointing it out.
I honor Scott for always being willing to go against the popular flow of conversation when he disagrees. That takes courage. Some of my loved ones are on the Left, or at least voted for Biden. I do blame myself for not speaking up from the beginning when I saw them drifting this way. I didn’t want the argument, and I couldn’t believe they could be that blind. It would have been much easier back then to offer a better idea, but I never thought things would get this bad this quickly. So even when I totally disagree with Scott’s take, I see where he’s coming from and I value his input.

I was also baffled hearing that segment. First, I don;t think it the thought that the audience here could not stand to hear his opinion has no ground. And second, even if it was the case, does nothing Bill tries to teach stick? The stuff about courage? About not giving in to mob pressure?

I hope I just misunderstood that part and it was just some rhetoric.

Another attached thought. I’m just readingJordan Peterson’s book on 12 rules. Rule 3 is about friends. To keep friends who want you to grow. That are not afraid to point out problems, impediments and bad things. As opposed to those who just hang out and assist your going alcoholic, pothead and any other destructive behavior. He really describes it in a colorful way. One part of the recent mund rot is with the undeserved praise and treating just being alive is accomplishment — I’d expect poople keep benign criticism a value. And those who enjoy the rot, id getting pissed, maybe actively worth leaving behind.

I really don’t value someone who is double minded pretending that he isn’t. Scott disliked Trump and usually showed it with relish. Let’s wait and see what if anything Scott will so condemn about Josef Stolen. Shall we? Still waiting…………………………!

If we start acting like the left, then we’re no better than they are with the cancel culture, shutting down social media accounts, unsubscribing, etc.
Scott said he voted for Trump in 2020. Did you miss that part?
He went from not voting to voting for him. He learned about much I can suppose over the last few years.
No need to be hateful. It’s the exact backlash he was referring to.

That is a major accomplishment of Trump really. A LOT of people I listen to did not vote for him in ’16. Some were vehemently against. And by ’20 they went in with a whole heart. That is way more than so many presidents people just auto-vote merely on the party. And most presidents bleed support during the term not gain.

Better? As humans “we” are no better. I don’t like where trying to be better has gotten us. Better is seen as weak and isn’t respected. It is all warm and fuzzy to fly the better banner among those who are also better, but it doesn’t win battles. Group commiseration won’t get back the Republic. It would be better, AKA more promising, to be hard, even harsh, and uncompromising, and to cull those who choose weakness because they are obstacles. IMO

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We all have our moments of weakness, gall. If we can spend some of our effort to carry their weight to possibly return to full strength together, it can be worth it. Sometimes, even the weakest member of the party becomes its greatest mascot, much like the goods peddler who remained with the Spartans in The Gates of Fire book, by Pressfield. Never underestimate the power of influence upon the capable.

In my opinion Scott can defend himself if necessary or clarify what he said, if he thinks he’s been wronged. Did you think his remark about election fraud would not cause a stir? Emotions over the gross injustice of November 2020 are still high and this is not my first rodeo.
Brennan essentially said today hate speech is going to be anything that disagrees with the new world order, i.e. the Joebama cabal. I continue to support this website even when I disagree about some things.

So, are we getting an episode where Scott will defend the position tha tthe elction was not riddled with fraud? I’m preparing the popcorn. Also expect follow-up in forum. 🙂

This is the problem Scott is trying to highlight because he didn’t say that. He said that the fraud, which is always present in every election and may or may not have been sufficient to sway the results, is become irrelevant. It really doesn’t matter now because the evil deed is done.

I’m not sure I agree with him but I’m not going to misquote him or put words in his mouth.

The question is what are we going to do about the situation now, not are we going to uselessly nurse a grudge to our own detriment.

That said, I’m not sure I agree with Scott in the idea that we stand on our purest principles and ignore the inrush of the sea as the ship sinks. I don’t see the advantage in being righteously drowned. Especially when facing an unprincipled, unscrupulous, treacherous enemy who is going around doing his best to blow gaping holes in the hull.

Yeah, there was also mention that Trump’s non-conceding after the scotus denial will hurt the legacy and he will be remembered badly for that overshadowing much other stuff — I think I could not disagree more. 🙂 The idea is wrong on like 3-4 different levels at the same time. I’d really want to see it elaborated and then blown into pieces.

… and again, it doesn’t matter in the current, dire situation.

I said that there are things I don’t agree with Scott Ott about. It really doesn’t matter because at the moment we have virtually zero official influence at any level high enough to matter.

Personally, I think the election was stolen, that there was sufficient fraud and cheating to tip the balance just enough for two candidates that were not wanted by their own people to win. That’s a very big deal but I can’t do a damn thing about it retroactively. That battle was lost and there’s no point in fighting it again. The circumstances are too grave for such puerile indulgences.

I’m as outraged as anyone but … Obsessing about it is a form of surrender. Crying about it is childish and counterproductive. There’s a big difference between licking our wounds so we can continue the fight and tearing those wounds open over and over again because it satisfies some people to bleed out rather than heal and fight. We should never forget and never forgive what was done but the war isn’t over yet and that’s the important fact here.

Some of the blame for this loss, agree or not, like it or not, lies with Donald Trump, his team, his strategy and his personality. At least as many people voted against Trump (as opposed to for Biden/Kamelface) as voted against Hillary last time. The enemies of America capitalized on those flaws and won the battle and that battle is now over.

It is never successful strategy when facing an enemy to plan what you will do when you’re defeated. The successful plan is how not to be defeated in the first place. Even if you lose, you learn from your mistakes and now is the exact time to recognize, acknowledge and remedy the mistakes that were made. We’re out of time and the threat is greater than any in living memory because the enemy is now emboldened to move openly and swiftly against us to consolidate and lock in their dominance.

The horses left the barn, closing the barn door now just keeps the horses from getting back in again. How is “blowing into pieces” Scott Ott’s opinion going to help that? What real good do you think you are doing for this Nation?

You started with misquoting Scott by saying he said “the election was not riddled with fraud” which he most certainly did not say — And now being as I’ve proven that to be just bile and no substance you want to argue about something else. That’s not argument, it’s deflection, a typical trick of the left and once one layer is peeled away you have another one underneath ad infinitum.

I’m not arguing with you, I’m telling you that it’s wrong to make untrue accusations. Especially against allies whom we should listen to whether we agree with them or not. I can’t stop you from doing that but I’m not going to sit here and let it slide either.

I think we;re discussing different parts of the elephant. I agree with most of what you say. Yeah, it is the past, that can’t be changed, Yeah Trump did make a nuber of unforced errors. Even more yeah, he completely messed up the CYA part and appointed backstabbers into most important roles. Unclear whether he knew that or was mislead.

But is all that enough reason to ban the discussion of the topic? Is forcibly avoiding something not similar to obsession?
Blowing Scott’s opinion (be it real or played) to pieces is a fun thing in its own right — I enjoyed it on most RA and like episodes for a long time. Why leave all of it to Bill? 🙂
Also, to learn we have to figure out what the past was. If we just leave it there without reflecting, we eill only pay the price and not gain anything, missing the lesson.

I didn’t make an “accusation” just what *my* impression was on what was the message even added that I hope for some misunderstanding — all the more reason to go in for the elaborated version that clears up whet is a sure claim, what is a maybe and what is a certain not.

Ah … this all seems sensible to me.
Yes, I think we’re arguing over portions of the same elephant but I also think that your perspective and mine are likely very different when it comes to things like this. I find this site very entertaining but I’m not here for the entertainment nor to be entertained. The entertainment value is incidental and a plus. I understand that others may not view things the same way I do. That’s fine.

My intention was never to “ban the discussion” of anything at all, just to provide perspective. And some accuracy. And my interpretation of what Scott actually said.

I’m not trying to goad anyone into anything. I’m an inveterate, ruthless anti-leftist troll on the open internet. I try to avoid that kind of thing in here and just state my position as clearly as I am able. Sometimes that position is pretty aggressive. I do not apologize for that.

I value Scott’s opinion while often disagreeing with him. In this episode it seems he’s a bit butt-hurt by the Trump Cult flaying him for his opinions. It’s commendable that he still states them and I still want to hear him. So I felt it reasonable that someone take his side as far as the accurate portrayal of those opinions goes. Agree with them or not.

Fair is fair. I don’t want to be a part of what the left does in denigrating, quoting out of context, mis-quoting, re-framing, shouting down or outright lying about the positions of others. At least not those others who are on my side. Sometimes they are right and when they are, I don’t want to miss out on that because they don’t feel like the flight is worth the flak.

There are way, way too many people on our side that keep their own counsel to themselves because of that sort of thing from the enemy. It is one thing to deploy the enemy’s tactics against him. It is an entirely different matter to employ the enemy’s tactics against friendlies.

This all relates to the “sheep dog” facet of my personality. Scott is a good man and gentle soul, a member of the flock I’ve spent large, uncomfortable segments of my life protecting from the wolves. The wolves are here, now, and Scott is a useful asset to wield against them.

So I want to hear what he has to say. I don’t want to see him discouraged to say it because people mis-quote him and give him grief over something he didn’t say. That just doesn’t seem right to me and for all the reasons I’ve given.

I do wish he would provide more substance to flesh out some of the things he says because Scott, Bill, Steve, you nor anyone else will convince me of anything without facts. So I wish Scott would provide more facts on things like why he doesn’t feel that the Dominion Voting Machines were significant to the election outcome. Or why though he acknowledges massive fraud does not believe it was instrumentally significant to the election outcome. He probably isn’t going to do that if he thinks it’s going to be detrimental to billwhittle.com or if he thinks all he’s going to get is grief.

You’re right, same elephant, different perspectives. Thanks for the discussion.

And the whole point was being ABLE to discuss and see other points of view and learn stuff.
As Bill stated, he doesn’t want an “echo chamber” where everyone gets their daily dose of righteousness.

I think the comment that alarmed me was when Scott said he didn’t want to cause BW.com to lose members due to his opinions, so he was just going to stop commenting, or words to that effect. Scott has proved his bona fides for years. I would feel great shame if members left this site because he expressed opinions that didn’t toe some arbitrary line. This is a site where all respectful opinions are valued, whether they line up with anyone’s particular view or not. If we can’t talk to each other then the Left has won.

It matters because it will be the default MO of the left. They will keep what they will steal, and they will want more even if that means stealing it also. Cheating and theft are now virtues and given the status of just.

And the malignant result of our stolen American election will be shoved down our throats in a million ways for at least the next 4 years. How can anyone say it doesn’t matter?!!

Love those guys. I have multiple versions in my collection, though. Each has a different set of verses. Put ’em all together and it’d be like four or five minutes long, I think

Something just struck me that’s sort of tangential to the election stuff: even before the Mueller report came out confirming that Russiagate was a hoax, no one supporting it ever said how Putin helped Trump. No one other than Putin was ever named. That says a lot.

Gee Scott, I wonder if your scorn/blame for Biden will equal or excel that which you have for Trump. Waiting…………………………………………….!

So good to know my wife and I are cutting edge at least about one thing. We decided on Sunday that we would not watch one moment of inauguration coverage.

@Scott: I lost you on Mitch. He is a known major scumbag. He’s barely different from his best buddy Joe Biden. He was afraid to tell the actual republican voters what is on his corrupt mind? Yeah, he had and has 73 million good reasons to.

Steve, if/when they create a law that’s used to attack and punish Republicans. Making it difficult/impossible/illegal to fund raise or organize or even communicate, then expect there to be more like Jan 6th. Only more like what AntiFa did in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland etc…

I actually disagree with that, The attempt was okay-ish and they got a helluva lot of things right. But also fell short on other things. With major annoyance rating.
Unlike STD and P that is deliberately made to demolish the old trek, the JJ movies wanted to continue in the spirit, so deserve to be included.

But, the scene where Picard slams the Enterprise into the enemy ship (because he knew the antagonist would never expect it) was priceless. 🙂

Picard, the captain that surrendered the ship eighteen minutes into the series? Because he was French? 😉

First Contact was so great, but all the movies after were just meh. For me it’s really hard to pick a clear winner for worst, but for various reasons. The effects evolved while the writing went down the drain.

“Aargh. Lash me to the mast, matey. ‘Tis the siren song of the shanty.”
I wondered why a lot of recommendations on YouTube suddenly turned into sea shanty videos. Now I know.

I thought those were great! I wonder how much of that was inspired by Richie Blackmore’s new group, Blackmore’s Night?

I know you don’t like to repeat, but you guys should keep hitting on state legislatures fraud proofing their election procedures. Encourage your members who live in those swing states to lean on their legislators to implement procedures and enforcement of those procedures to stop the steal before it happens. Then, any moves by a state to actually do it should be reported, critiqued, and praised.

This was a good time, guys. I agree with Steve — this election stuff is getting close to its expiration date. I’m looking forward to your insights into the staff picks of the incoming Biden cabal…er, administration, rather.

Thanks, and have a “gentle morning”!

Current events, etc., but I abhor the thought of any in-depth analysis of Biden staff picks.
They are all bankers, swamp creatures, racist theory spouting, non-reality, Obama throwbacks. IMO

I agree with you, De. I find myself loath to watch or listen to anything, pro or con, related to the illegitimate administration that took office today. I know it’s probably the wrong thing to do, but I just want to zone out for the next 4 years, shun politics and its disgusting players. Maybe I’ll get over it…one of these days.

I think our time would be better used to monitor our state and local politicians, stay on them, get signatures for recalls and ballot measures, support an American candidate for office (even if it’s a dog-catcher).
Just decide you’re not going to worry over it anymore and focus on changes that are best for you and your family. Blessings. 🙂

A fundamental question, why are there sides? Why do we even allow political parties? Is there another way to organize people into forming a government?

I’ve wondered that myself. I think the answer (as usual) is: Follow the money. Parties are the means by which dollars get funneled into candidates’ war chest(s).

I think it is essentially the result of the tribal nature of humans, and the politicians have learned to leverage it for their own gains of power and wealth. In short … greed and fear.

Count Me In! I know with the right demeanor, a measured strategy and dogged determination we will make a difference. Nothing will disrupt them more than speaking the truth and talking about things that matter instead of only talking about what’s wrong with everyone else.
Now you only need 100 more.

Love the show guys. I’ve been a paying member for some time now but I never really checked out the site. Here recently I’ve decided to “Join the discussion.” I want to be a part of the founding of the After Party.

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