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An American Army: Moving Back to America with Bill Whittle

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An American Army: Moving Back to America with Bill Whittle

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197 replies on “An American Army: Moving Back to America with Bill Whittle”

Hey Bill, I have been watching you for a long time now. Love your stuff. Just wanted to let you know I joined up because of this video. With a business I run, a wife and two kids it’s hard to get involved (excuses, I know). But when you put a call out for resources because you want to help get real conservatives elected… . That I can do.
Keep up the good fight. We’re prayin for you and your team.
I have been wondering for a long time, were you at the Spaceship 1 launch? I got to be a vip at the first attempt, I wonder if we were there at the same time.

There’s a common problem I see where well-intentioned patriots only have 2 settings: 1) storm the capital or 2) sit on the couch and watch Fox news 🙂
We’ll all enraged. Are you motivated to do something? Here are some ideas. This is primarily for people who (like me) live in leftists areas. If you live in an already right-leaning area, maybe the strategy is different (please share).
I think the “in person” social network is a worthy battleground. It’s a long march but by far most powerful over the long term. Ideas:

  1. Start a movie night for your neighbors. Don’t explicitly talk politics, just show movies from the 40s-80s or so when movies promoted American values instead of trashing them. Drop subtle hints.
  2. Organize neighborhood cleanups. Look at what Scott Presler did, cleaning up so many city blocks of trash in Baltimore and dozens of other cities
  3. Fight club — practice “talking your book”, get honest feedback. Role-play talking with leftists in a persuasive (not usually confrontational) way. Learn to control your temper and your tongue.
  4. Start an exercise group at the park, mens’ / womens’ activity groups, etc. Teach a skill. Mentor someone. Improve yourself and help others to do the same. Tremendous influence.
  5. De-isolate. The left wants us all to think we’re alone and unloved. There are 75 million patriots that would love to hang out.
  6. Widen communications channels where left + right actually meet. There are so few at present. The left only wins when the right’s message is blocked, that’s why they censor us. Find people/places in neutral territory and expand them.
  7. Above all, make new friends to make new patriots.

I’m not gonna lie, some people would rather take up an AR-15 than talk to a stranger. But bear in mind that our war takes place in 2021, not 1776.

This seems to be an occassion of both/end. Whatever the Boston Tea party was at the time, it became a galvanzing event, a defining story of the revolution.
Already they are hyperventilating -over reaching due to their limited grasp of the meaning of words- calling the kerfluffle an insurrection against a legally constitued government rather than a protest against a corrupt government.
It is not a bad thing for the governement to fear the people they govern and their response is indicative of that fear. They need to see first hand the depth of that anger and have to realize that they have already pushed too far Moreover the errors of that response as in the murder of an unarmed patriot will only intensify the anger of the people. And while not in favor of destruction I would find little moral equivalence between burning down the capitol building or a black owned buisness in Minneapolis, I’m not falling for that ambush.

Well, I joined BillWhittle.com because of THIS episode.
Bill is correct. The current slate of candidates are unable to tell the American story. They are unable to say why faith, freedom, justice, and capitalism are what we want to vote for. They fall into the trap of ‘vote for me because the other candidate is a sleaze ball’. Instead they need to say, “Vote for me because I want you free and prosperous.”
So, faith, freedom, justice, families, industry, energy, farms, homes, forests, fish, manufacturing, innovation, truth, gratitude, integrity, life, generosity, joy.
Because a prosperous people will choose every time to protect their environment. Every time they will choose to have clean air and water, without government edict.
Because a prosperous people can be generous, and privately provide for the welfare of the citizenry, without government involvement.
Because a prosperous people will choose to educate their children according to their own principles.
I can’t currently run for office, but if you’re local to me and can embrace the list above, I will help you.

Bill is correct, we have to start doing two things.

  1. We have to start doing the boring work of showing up to our local city counsel meeting and slowly take back the home front politically.
  2. we have to begin making content that allows our morals and ideas to spread. Not our political ideas directly but our ethics. We need to saturate as many forms of media as we can with cool fun entertaining things that expose people outside conservative culture to all the good, fun exciting things about it.

Perhaps not, but we have been doing very poorly in Psychological Operations. If were going to win any sort of conflict cultural or violent we have to show our ethics and ideas to be effective and “cool”.

Unfortunately, I think we’re way, way, way past being nice about things. China is already shutting down all conservative thought on social media.

Twitter allowed the CCP to post about how they sterilized religious women. Yet, deplatform America’s president when he called for peace at capitol hill.

Actually, I can picture Samual Adams & Sons of Liberty dumping tea into Boston Harbor.

I wonder, if the Boston Tea Party had not happened, would we even have America ?

And Wednesday’s debacle may well bring focus and discipline to the conservative movement. Hundreds of thousands of people on the mall. A few minutes of pushing and shoving played a zillion times on media. One bullet. Hopefully the people under prosecution are also the blamtifa/flatscreen rioters. They wouldn’t arrest them for burning our cities. But they’ll lock them up and throw away the key for breaking into the Capitol building.

Thanks Al Francis for your thoughts too. I was just preparing to write my thinking on this video of Bill’s. I have been supporting Bill and the rest of the trio for a long while and have every intention of continuing to do so.
However, I must wonder where Bill was when he says they didn’t layout the fraud. Guiliani posted a 40 minute video that presented the issues state by state quite clearly. President Trump talked about all the oddness many, many times. We saw Bannon’s War Room reviewing the problems with quality people day after day. Why does anyone suppose that many Americans were there in the first place? Because we all know.
The violence was not the allies, it was embedded anarchists. We all know that too. We can look to all the Tea Party events to show we aren’t violent. Some people might have rushed into areas that were opened that should not have been… but taking selfies while in comrade Pel’s office isn’t violence.
What are we expected to do? We have waited on the Courts, who would not hear any of it. We waited for the legislatures who brushed it aside. We waited on the Supreme Count who whimped out. We watched as what Bill rightly calls Pravada USA told us lie after lie attempting to tell us what we knew was true, was in (their narrative) not fact. We saw hundred’s of our fellow civic minded citizens swear affidavits of things that occurred during the counting that were at the very least suspicious. They were ignored. Again we are ignored. We saw the Pravada media lock out, blockout and surpress any honest discussion on their platforms We saw the few media we thought we could be honest reporting reveal themselves as the same wolves Pravada media is. FoxNews is dead to most of us now. NewsMax has at best always been a question mark. America’s voice might as well have been CNN. We’ve been told that is it ok to burn down your neighbor’s business. To steal is “reparations” all of that was ok. But upright people who have had enough, we somehow aren’t allowed to have a thing to say.
Taxation is over the top, our medical care is no longer our own choice. We are expected to pay for healthcare for people from all over the world, but we can’t afford it for our own families. We are expected to pay taxes to support generations of people who never paid a dime into it. And we are bad if we don’t like it.
People have been manipulated by fear of the flu. It is ridiculous to see people wearing masks. We have been told to wait in fear for the vaccine, then everything will be ok again. And what happens? So as their so called “vaccine” arrives. So does a bigger and nastier strain. So lock down again. Bill (the) Gates (of Hell) has been put into some special category of stupid telling us maybe another year to wait. Field Marshall Fauci is busy making good money from the research companies he was been invested with, so he certainly likes this stuff. People have been thrown out of work and homes and marriages even affected. Watching your child go hungry because you aren’t allowed to work to support your family. Businesses being fined because they need to open so they and their employees can earn a living and once again feed their children and have a roof over their heads.
So what was left for us to do? Except for showing up in large numbers to say we are watching you and we will not have masters (except for The Master himself). The other alternative, none of us want to have to do.
Back in the Tea Party days we heard about running for all offices, all of them so we can change the course of the country through the mechanisms we have. That went no where.
Sadly these fools aren’t bright enough to see what we are saying. Instead of backtracking and realizing they have gone much too far and repenting, they just blame Trump not looking at the log in their eyes.
Im for public shaming. Maybe the return of the stockade. We need to take these erring communists and, on camera, pull down their pants and put them over our knees and spank them with a switch until they can’t sit down. Then remove them from office Same for all the these leftie mouthpieces. Public shaming and ousting. Humiliations will bring these idiots to heal. They derive there power from us. We have spent far too long letting the children weald power they haven’t the competence nor IQ to be entrusted with.
Sorry this went so long, guess I had more to say then I realized.

You spoke to my frustrations extremely well. Thanks. Bill spoke to, IMO, “expanding our sphere” as I heard one pastor say this morning. I’m thinking about how I can be a part of this way forward.

I don’t think I can ever close my eyes to the injustice of what the Senate and the Congress did. They walked into the floor of the House looking very smug if you ask me. Some of them were waiting for the mob who works for them. Then their self-righteous preaching afterward was insufferable.

After confirming Joebama, in the video, I watched as someone gave Pence a solid gold coin and Nancy and Pence bumped elbows. She also had a new shiny silver gift set on her side of the desk. Things you probably didn’t see! I am more convinced than ever to do everything I can to restore freedom and the rights we hold dear.

Thanks Barbara Henderson. You have a stronger stomach than I do. I didn’t last five minutes with the dealmakers on the hill. Good observations.

You’ve expressed exactly the thoughts we all have and need for this movement. Welcome to MB2A!

The tea thrown into the sea that day belonged to a business who was providing a service and was stolen from.

You can’t have it both ways – they take advantage of our “law-abiding nature” – our virtue, but they take advantage of of our passion. So you are saying nothing will win out over their narrative and corruption and we should just … just do what? Resist, but don’t resist. Fight but don’t fight.

There is no possible way to control thousands of people. And to take responsibility for the actions of those individuals who allowed themselves to let passion rule, is insanity. One of my least favorite lines is “That’s not who we are”. To say this is to accept responsibility for the actions of these individuals — and to apologize for something we had absolutely no control over. To rant about this loss of control as if human nature doesn’t exist, and to take responsibility for the actions of the “mob” and ignore those who were disciplined is just as irresponsible as agreeing to a “conspiracy theory” mentality. There was no possible way to avoid the trap- none. If nothing happened and no one showed up, a trap would still have been sprung.

Agreed. After thinking about it yesterday, I, too, realized that the end result in Congress was always going to be the end result.

I just had a thought. What kind of a message would it send if nobody from the conservative side showed up for the inauguration? Wouldn’t that be splendid?

That is what I would like…. zip crowd. I hear Mr Biden has said he doesn’t want a parade. Im thinking even his fuzzy brain knows that would not go well. 1000s flipping dbl birds and hissing and booing.

Bill,
I am wondering if you have read George Friedman’s book “The Storm Before The Calm?” I would be interested in your reaction and how his notions of socioeconomic and institutional cycles may dovetail with your notions of our future. His books states that for the first time in our country’s history both cycles have intersected and we are in for a very difficult decade.

I appreciate your comments Bill, but as someone who has reached the ripe old age of 78, and has a mind that is at least relatively intact, I have some other opinions. I agree with much of what you said in this segment as well as the last. I also agree with much of what Dale Miller said in his comments. I wish everyone involved in this thread would go to my blog and read todays post. Go to:
https://wp.me/p7RFUu-XO
Starting from the bottom up is indeed the ideal way to take back the nation from those who would destroy it. However, as Mr. Miller stated, the incumbents, whether they be Democrats, Republicans or Independents, have the power to stop a newcomer in their tracks, no matter how articulate or persuasive their arguments. The local, state or federal party leadership controls the money required to mount even a primary campaign. In addition, the left has totally dominated the media, so how do you get the message out.
I live in a semi-rural area of western South Carolina. To this day, there are Trump banners, flags and signs everywhere. The Biden “victory” devastated every one of his supporters. It is my opinion that if the media, academia, Big Tech and the political opposition feel they can continue to perpetrate this fraud upon the American people without fear, not of being exposed, but of being physically attacked, they will continue to do what they have been doing for years. High ideals and morality are wonderful concepts, but they are no defense against people who don’t respect you, but rather dispise you and this country. A few hundred thousand dedicated Nazis took over a moral and highly educated Germany and ended up being successful in nearly exterminating the European Jews and others, simply because those people felt helpless to fight back, not just with words, but physically, with deeds of valor. It will take both if we are to save our Republic, I fear.

I am a new member an this is my first post. Due to the strength of this video I have joined up. I feel compelled to take action and am ready to “form up” and assemble. I would love to see the playbook so that we can actuate.

It looks to me as if we just fell into the second part of the trap. Why was this trap so effective? The left knew we’d instantly accept the initial narrative and start criticizing each other. Apparently we learned nothing from the Sandmann episode. We’re all busy virtual signaling criticizing the “mob”, resigning, and calling for Trump’s impeachment (thanks again National Review!) that we’re demoralizing ourselves and playing right into the hands of the left.
I’m not arguing that it was caused by some Antifa/BLM set up, I don’t know, you don’t know. But the first thing we should be doing is praising all the people that made the effort to go there and support Trump and honest elections. We should be trying to change the narrative.
I totally agree that we have to be disciplined. But that includes being disciplined in how we react to the lies and hypocrisy of the left/media.

First, your plan is to start from the bottom up. I don’t know about you local leaders, but every place I have been they are just like the National leaders. Corrupt liars whom have been committing voter fraud for decades. The honest candidates get undermined, cheated, investigated, and even threatened in order to not compete. How do we even successfully get someone brave(dumb) enough to put themselves in the proverbial line of fire for the one sided attack that will be forced upon them? Second, the fact that it was a very small part of the Capital march that was undisciplined and the whole group is being lumped into this mess. This has been lumped into a mob accusation. Yes, the idea that the march leaders had not prepared the group for the ANTIFA tactics of incursion and subversion (sounds like CIA training) was a gross over site on planning. Consider this if that woman had been shot entering into your home, the same way she was killed as she entered the other side of the door, you the home owner would be arrested because you could have simply closed the door you were standing in in order to not be directly threatened. The shooter advanced on and then shot an unarmed person entering a public building. The female made no aggressive moves toward the shooter. There was no attempt to subdue or arrest the woman. I am not saying we as Americans have a right to protect our homes and possessions, I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the situation. We saw numerous times of BLM members fighting the cops and then being shot, but that was different because they where BLM. Third, Bill, you discussed we are fighting a “R” type group that doesn’t care if it slashes and burns everything in their path. How do the decent people fight in a war where the other side controls/changes the rules? You also discussed the war with Japan, I would remind you that we eventually utilized mass destruction to finally end that groups willingness to fight. Honestly fighting on our terms(lawful), against an enemy whom is willing to use any means for success, offers no real chance of success. They have and will utilize all the powers of the deep state, including the legal system, IRS, Homeland Security, FBI, CIA, DOJ, etc… to fight with and destroy any opposition. All the while using state controlled media to broadcast how they are doing the right thing by destroying us to protect the other real citizens of their psychological country. I just don’t see a way to win playing their rigged game….

@DaleMiller, you make several good points, but I want to address this one: “ The honest candidates get undermined, cheated, investigated, and even threatened in order to not compete. “
First, what you write is true. I was politically active in politics before I retired and moved. At the most local grassroots level, volunteers number in the tens and twenties, not the hundreds. It was frustrating to know that if we could only get 50 or 60 volunteers, we could do enough voter contact to get the several hundred (school board, utility districts…) or couple of thousand (County and State legislators…) votes we needed to get our folks elected.
This means that a relatively small group of activists can overcome the establishment, which it turns out, is not that big or powerful in local elections.
Even at the State level, if a candidate is willing to forego funding from the establishment, the establishment has no leverage. But that means people like us have to be able to ensure a constitutional conservative can actually run an effective campaign. You can’t find the right candidates because they are smart enough to know that without funding in a certain range (varies by office, etc.) they have no chance.
This is what makes Bill’s plan so good that I became a member. I tried to recruit good folks to run for office and had a lot of trouble because I couldn’t assure them of adequate funding to run a real campaign. Yes, what Bill is trying is an experiment, but it’s the good fight and the best way I can see to recover from this national disaster.

Honestly, God is the only reason I can sleep at night. God’s plans are so much better than any plan man can even dream up. 🙂 ty

Another great release Bill. We are not about mob rule (pure democracy) we are a republic standing for our individual rights and freedoms. When we lose sight of this we are already defeated. It is not an accident those who wish to destroy our nation have figured out the strength of the individual and the rule of law is also our biggest weakness. I look forward to the strategy of offense. The defense has been trying to carry the ball across the goal line for way too long.

Bill, I’ve been a sustaining member since last March since the CCP unleashed this virus on us because you were the only one who had the moral clarity to speak the truth about what was going on. I couldn’t simply just sit and watch your videos for free anymore.
Because of this video, I have decided to upgrade my membership to a producing member. It’s time I start putting my money where my mouth is and we are going to need a lot more resources. I’m tired of being a spectator, and need to be player. I know a lot of our members here are stepping up, including the new ones, but please look harder and see if you can contribute just even a dollar more by making a one time donation each month.
You’re absolutely right, we need the money in order to fund campaigns to get this thing going. While the wheels may start slowly cranking, once they get going, they can’t be stopped. Let’s get to work everyone!

I just became a member even though I probably shouldn’t afford it because I’m willing to do anything to help save our country and Bill seems to have the guts to not give up and he has a plan. One thing I want clarification on or for us to think about is if the plan is for Americans to take local and regional office and change state laws to the election process, what if anything could stop or repel the federal government from making a law prohibiting such things? I fully expect the left to be completely and shrewdly aware of this weakness and if they aren’t they will be so the very first moment an American politician starts promoting it, especially if it’s in a swing state. The Supreme Court, Congress, or an Executive Order could effectively make it illegal to institute voter ID, ban mail in voting, or require citizenship to vote. I remember not too long ago they were pushing that illegal immigrants have constitutional rights by dint of being here… It was held up in court! God Save America.

They certainly can’t do that, state matter and federal matter does not ix. That is why all the appeals sank actually.
And don’t forget the power structure. The feds have very little actual power if any. It may work against individuals, but not against states if they are reluctant to pass over their rights.

And using the insurrection act against a state to enforce an edict that is blatantly unconstitutional on face would only make many other states stand up. Even if they would enjoy the result of the actual edict.

On this one Bill is absolutely right, if you build up the power structure as it was designed, down to up, it will work, and it will work wonders.

The real problem is that building up, that may run a short course due to even enough poeople to start the hard work — and then in the next phase possibly they have not enough support from the population. Due to so many factors.

Bill, you ought to watch to Catherine Austin Fitts re the whole issue of “pandemic”, election fraud, and “The Great reset” Very frightening and it adds to your argument about fighting back

She connected a lot of dots. She was very informative and shockingly clear. I kept thinking while I was listening to her that she should have a bodyguard and a food tester! Seriously.

Yeah, we have to look at wizard’s 8th rule. And unfortunately everything in the Naked Empire applies to this situation almost literally.

Ah.

“Wizard’s Eighth Rule: Talga Vassternich.(Deserve Victory)” ― Terry Goodkind, Naked Empire

I have to admit, it was hard for me, in the mood I’ve been in the last couple of days, to watch that video. There are some of points I don’t fully agree with:
1.) I don’t think this is as disastrous a thing as Bill does. I work at a college that is pretty far left even by academic standards, and the people there are at least as frightened by the situation as we are, without having the anger that we do. I’ve been in two Zoom meetings the past two days; both of them were opened by the person leading them asking how everybody was, and both times there was about thirty seconds of stunned silence, before people started answering timidly. I really think that they just never thought that right-wingers would ever go even partly as far as their own extremists do. If this puts the fear of God into some people, then it may be a good thing in the end. (I’m also beginning to see some push back against spoiled students and “diversity,” but that’s a post for another day. . .) Furthermore, we have now learned once and for all that the GOP, at least as presently constituted, is actively hostile to our interests, which is a valuable lesson to learn.
2.) I’m also not as concerned, at least in the short run, about the left retaliating in any meaningful way. For heaven’s sake, they can’t effectively enforce gun control even in deep blue areas, nor can they persuade their own sheriff’s departments to enforce the lockdown in their metro areas. One barber and some militia members spat in Gretchen Whitmer’s face and have emerged pretty much scot-free. This is not to say that we should underestimate the enemy, nor should we continue to let them gain power. However, as Bill said in an earlier video, the Democratic leadership continues to be old, incompetent, or both. Furthermore, if they try escalating the situation, they’re very likely to overreach in the mood they’re in. For instance, if Biden really does try to enact gun control, particularly if it’s by executive order, entire states and thousands of counties will defy him. They can then either start a war, which they will very likely lose, or back down with egg on their face.
3.) While it is true that our military tries to be better than the opponent. it is also true that we have done some horrendous things in combat. Even in WWII, a righteous cause if there ever was one, we incinerated millions of civilians–and that was before we used the most terrible weapon ever invented. Twice. However, while not all of that can be justified (Dresden was, at that point in the war, an atrocity), much of it was necessary–civilians made the materials needed for the enemy to fight, and the atomic bomb pushed the Japanese to overcome their ethic of suicide and quit (not to mention sparing millions of more lives, of course.) It is my conviction that he who creates a situation in which the normal rules of civilization are destabilized must bear at least some of the blame for all of the excesses on both sides, because anyone with any brain cells and reading of history knows that such situations are impossible to keep from escalating once they get started. As Ace of Spades said recently on his site, I will no longer accept two sets of rules. I would prefer to play by the nice, peaceful, orderly, civilized rules, and I will not break the rules before they do, but if they choose to play a nastier game, I’m not going to spend too much time criticizing the members of my own side, and I’m certainly not going to spare any thought for the hypocritical protestations of the enemy.
4.) Also, we are not going to be perfect. Again, even in WWII, we were making mistakes, including some very costly ones, right up to the end of the war. That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t strive to be as good as we can be. However, I have heard it said that 90% of everything tried fails. We have to root out the failures quickly and completely, but we also have to avoid punishing people who are still useful too harshly for failure. If this is the worst mistake our side makes in this conflict, I think we’re going to do a lot better than even our most positive dreams.
All that being said:
1.) Bill is absolutely correct that for a guy who has been screaming about election fraud for years, Trump and his campaign were shockingly unprepared for this election. In complete fairness, a couple of the law firms that he hired left him in the lurch due to woke pressure. Nevertheless, there was no organized plan, particularly in the months before the election when resistance would have been most helpful, and there were too many loose cannons like Wood and Powell running around spouting off crazy theories that, in my opinion, distracted from the real dirty tricks that were pulled. This also brings up the point that while Trump was at least as good as Reagan was at inspiring, and may have been even better at getting things done in the face of resistance, he was not as good at communicating, and I think that cost him in the long run.
2.) I also have to admit that what happened yesterday did do a lot of damage to the effort to prove the fraud that will be difficult at best to fix, and I do not want to see it repeated unless it becomes absolutely necessary. I totally agree that we need more discipline both in messaging and in action.
As I said, I hated to hear a lot of the message of this video, but I have to admit in the end that much of it is true, and the basic message that we need to be our own saviors is right on. I am making an effort to live my life more consciously and to listen more carefully to what the Lord is telling me. Therefore, I am taking some funds that I now see were being wasted on unproductive things and devoting some of them to Bill’s effort instead. Only 999 more to go, big guy!

That was very well considered and informative. Your first point certainly is good to hear, as I think that the left/right divide often paints liberal voters as some sort of bogeymen instead of slightly clueless, mostly decent Americans.

I hope you’re right that the left won’t be nearly as effective at actual control as they have been over academia, the media, politics and the judiciary.

I’m not sure I agree with Ace of Spades in… ‘not un-excusing’ [?] our compatriots for their violence. I don’t think there is a place for it unless it is in defence of your own safety.

But I do agree with your points about Trump’s lack or preparation and communication. He really needed a good right hand man. Sadly he didn’t seem to be too hot at picking people either.

This is a great writeup, would worth pasted as a Blog and be discussed by points instead of being buried here. I agree on a lot of points and have slightly different view on the others. As I wrote elsewhere I also think Bill overstated the point in the first 15 minutes especially on some details, but he still has a good general point to keep in mind, and the effort was really to do that. It’s unfortunate he does not personally involve in our conversations here, so I can;t tell how much of what he says he believes literally and how much is more a rhetoric tool.

Oh no a few hundred people walked around THE PEOPLE’S HOUSE for a few hours. Oh the humanity how terrible! This is the worst thing I have ever heard! Meanwhile an unarmed veteran died for it (in fear of their life bill? Really? She was unarmed and was shot from the other side of a fucking door through glass) Another Trump supporter was pushed off a balcony by a cop. Do you think that cop was in fear of their life too bill? Surely the “mob” attacked the cops after the killing of that horribly unruly unarmed female veteran mobster and tossing another off a balcony. Oh wait, the “mob” didn’t attack anyone? Trump supporters didn’t kill anyone at all? They just broke some glass and roamed around THEIR GODDAMN HOUSE for a little while? Is there a more appropriate place for something like this to happen ANYWHERE? You think this event takes anything at all away from the evidence of fraud? AND you think the media needed THIS event to push their bullshit? Give me a break Bill.

I’m not canceling my support but goddamn this video really made me consider it. Bankrupt moralism and pearl clutching hasn’t worked out very well for republicans. The fact that you can’t see American Heroes “storming” the Capitol has more to do with your own bias than actual reality. If it were our founders in DC yesterday they would have taken control of the entire city, they wouldn’t be non violent, and they wouldn’t have stopped until the corruption was excised. You want the world to be like an old western where the bad guy runs out of bullets so the good guy throws his gun away and fights the bad guy hand to hand to be fair. In the real world that kind of shit just gets the good guy killed.

Trump could have gotten 5 million armed people there had he said the word. HE CALLED FOR PEACE AND FOR PEOPLE TO GO HOME AND WAS BANNED FOR IT. Meanwhile here you are condemning some of the only people left who give a damn about this country because why? Because some broken glass and optics. Because you somehow think this game can be won by playing by their rules on their board. I sure am glad that Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Payne, and the rest of those men weren’t as adverse to action as you seem to be since ya know you just spent 25 minutes condemning the most limp and non destructive “mob” that I’ve ever seen in my life.

A replay of what happened when Andrew Jackson invited people to just drop by to help celebrate his Inauguration would have been a real Hoot.

Oh Lord, do I miss Andrew Breitbart. His untimely death allowed for the Left to advance without having to face a media-savvy adversary that was fully up to the task. Everyone of the Right has been playing catch-up ever since. He laid the groundwork to restrain evil with a cheerful and winsome manner and it seems that we have all kind of lost track of the plans. Bill is our heir apparent to establish the strategy anew, and train the recruits.

I am very confused about the whole situation. I understand something needs to be done,the warrior in me wants to kill someone, but that will only inflame the situation and is not in the best interest of everybody. I’ve never been an organizer or a follower just because everyone else is doing it. I really don’t have a clue as to what to do or how to help the cause. Please enlighten me.

“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government…”Have we reached this point yet? If we have, how exactly would we exercise this right? Our election process lies in ruin, so that’s not an option. What would Jefferson say today? Was he naive?

We’re past that point I believe. We just need to states to lead the charge on an official level. Get together and iron out a declaration of independence. State government need to start telling federal courts to go pound sand while daring the federal government to come in and try to do something about it. It can’t just be one lone state though. This needs to be a united effort amongst at least 25 states I’d say. And thanks to Republican super majorities in 29 or so states, this is more than feasible.

If I were the leadership in the state of Texas, I would be licking my chops, waiting for the minute some idiots from Washington came into my state and demanded my citizens surrender their fire arms. I would not only send Washington a letter that effectively says “piss off, but would openly threaten to treat such an act as act of domestic terrorism and would respond with extreme hostility if needed.

Instead of using the term political trap, I prefer a brilliant political move—awesome optics showing people’s incredible power in numbers. There were at least a quarter-million loyal, mostly peaceful supporters flooding Washington DC. Simultaneously, the joint session of congress counted, rejected, and negotiated while actually seeing all of the disenfranchised voters objecting to certain state’s choices. The socialist left and socialism is nothing more than communism in a pretty dress, uses Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” as their playbook. President Trump using Alinsky’s rule number one, “It’s not the power you have, but the power your enemy thinks you have,” to put the communist left, and their bitches, the Republicans, in a perfect checkmate. Everything was going to plan when, out of the blue, a handful of gullible, ignorant fools led by the nose by trained Antifa consultants who were very careful not to be caught anywhere near the capital building destroyed everything. We can never again underestimate the damage that a complete idiot can do given the chance.

+1 for peaceful persuasion. It could have been remembered as the “largest anti-vote fraud protest of all time”. Instead it will be a “failed coup” in the average person’s mind. MSM speaks first — that’s the terrain we’re fighting in, its a tactical problem to solve, not just lament about.

Exactly, and first, we have to organize, plan, train, and deploy a citizen’s army. Then, starting at the very bottom, get involved in every elected public office from Judges to district attorneys, from the sheriff to fire marshall, and from city council to the mayor in every city and every state. If the person holding an office is a shithead, get them out and put our people in. Next, we take back the education of our children, and up the ladder, we go. There’s a lot of work to do, and we’re going to need thousands of volunteers.

I hear you, but how do you imagine any Constitutional loving American will ever get voted into office? It doesn’t matter how many millions in cash you have when the votes of just a handful of cities can win an election.

I can’t answer this as well as Bill, but here’s a thought.
If they win via fair play, we have no choice but to step up our game which should be persuasion warfare (values, stories, social interaction).
If they win via fraud, I mentioned below an idea for a whistleblower bounty fund, which would help convict any rats that are cheating. That, plus better state election laws (eg. voter ID) and election night vigilance is all I can suggest.

Were starting up a “messaging” effort right now. Looking at all the possibilities, especially not mainstream outlets.

Start here.

You’re looking at this the wrong way. Let’s take another point of view. How many Constitution loving American’s want to run but lack support and are afraid to take on the mob alone?

I think that’s what Bill was thinking when he pushed in the video for new members and raising huge gobs of money. Cash for helping campaigns.

Yeah, and the trick is in convincing the sheep, in a shepherdly way, that the media, the propaganda wing of the communistic progressive left, is lying to them. We have to wake them up like in the Matrix, as an analogy and give them a choice, red pill or blue pill, hoping our power of persuasion is strong enough to attract more red pill results than blue. This is the true test of our message.

It doesn’t matter how many millions in cash you have when the votes of just a handful of cities can win an election.

Our plan isn’t to run for any national offices right away. First we take over the lowest ranks – city councils, school boards, county offices, state reps. The goal there is to fix the election laws in the states. After that we work on winning the bigger prizes.

I think the ideal would have been if Trump had told the protesters to sit around the mall, hold hands, and sing
“All we are sayin’…. is audit the votes“.
I am not being sarcastic.
Present this “sit-in” as an alternative path to physical protest; regular folks will see it as the peaceful path. Esp. Bernie Bros who have been in this situation.
There’s an important debate on whether we should physically resist or not. I’m 80% with Bill on this, 20% with “Samuel Adams”, but I’d love to respectfully hear the arguments of each.
Bear in mind, even Samuel Adams used meme warfare when it would work — look into the details of the Boston Massacre. Directly killing the british soldiers would be MUCH less useful than the news of the massacre, which was itself a bit provoked. In the Internet age with streaming video, this principle is even 10x more important than in the 1770s.

“All we are sayin’…. is audit the votes“.

That would have been hilarious.

It’s funny and catchy and concise and those qualities are important nowadays. It’s also reminds the left of their own “virtuous” protests, forcing them into mass hypocrisy if they try to crack down.

Is was a standard and now became a Sustaining. And am getting people to join also

Big disagree. Love you to death Bill, but if you don’t think that Sam Adams and Patrick Henry wouldn’t be storming the Capitol if they were living today then you need a refresher in American History. There is no next time, they rigged an election!! And they will keep doing it again and again because of the elites BOTH Democrat and Republicans despise this country. They also killed an unarmed veteran in cold blood. No moments of silence kneeling for her hmm?

Upvote for your sincerity. I’m torn 80/20 between the Bill and “Sam Adams” viewpoints, but I’d love a chance to get your feedback to sharpen my thoughts.
I think Sam Adams started with “information warfare”, e.g. the Boston Massacre, which we essentially instigated. The direct confrontation only began once there was more popular support, and only in earnest once we had a Declaration of Independence.
I think taking direct confrontation w/o, say, 75% popular support scares the large number of people that “just don’t want any trouble” and would unfortunately choose tyranny over strife.
History is full of small bands of heros that died fighting the system — usually the system calls them traitors and the only reason they are in the history books (if at all) is for the system to flex its muscles. So, I think “persuasion warfare” must come first (values, stories, social interactions). What say you?

Upvote for the comment. I agree, Bill’s right. This not a war of guns; it never has to be. Right now the sheep are skittish, they fear the wolves, and a good shepherd knows how to calm and soothe, earn their trust. They’re like clay to be molded by the right hands.

There is to most ears and eyes nothing wrong with the word “molded”

There is a Svengali feel to it though.

One of the daughters (no boys until his daughters had a lot sons – Grandpa is still around to enjoy that, though – his first daughter was a teenage mother and By God the whole family made it work!) had a son who when another friend of mine greeted asked him a little too eagerly what his name was, replied:

“I’m Mommy’s son.”

I’d as soon meet more people like that than sheep.

The Sons of Liberty used to tar and feather tax collectors and hang people in effigy. Also Bill eludes to the drunken mob juxtaposed to the American soldier holding the line. Sam Adams was a brewer for God’s sake! ha. I didn’t see any evidence that the people rushing the Capitol were drinking and looking at that sea of patriots across the Capitol lawn was inspiring. I don’t disavow anything that happened there. I do agree that the backlash is going to be painful for us, mostly because the unaccountable UNrepresentatives saw fight and hope in a constituency that has been beat up for too long.
America is now an occupied country with a public that doesn’t have a say with those who make and enforce the laws that apply to Americans. They have constructed their ivory tower and any of the people who paid and fought for that building will have pitch poured down upon them when they get anywhere near it for the foreseeable future.
I think debate is dead and you are not going to convince those in power to give up any power to the people again. I might just write a blog about this whole mentality if I feel motivated for it. We need to destroy the GOP as it exists in it’s current form. This will be done peaceably through primaries and demonstrations. Get our own house in order and make it America First. Then we have to deal with the voter fraud and demographics which will most likely be insurmountable.
The best good Americans can do for now is to make alliances like this site and other groups. Find institutions like Parler and Rumble and MeWe which are supporters of free speech. Make friends with like-minded people, get married, have a lot of children and for God’s sake don’t put them in public schools or other corrupt institutions.

From watching a very beautiful, discerning presentation yesterday in “Law Abiding”, to suffering through this mixed bag in “An American Army”, was a shocking surprise. Yes, Antifa was in the lead when they stormed the Capitol and perhaps several Trump people got caught up in the melee, however, 99.99 % of the people there did not join in with the mob and did not break down barriers. That was Antifa. It would have been better to wait a day or two to make this video and therein berate the Trump supporters at the demonstration for their lack of discipline. These 99% did the courageous act of going to D. C. to support Trump. These 99% are not guilty of lacking discipline. They had the discipline to go to D. C., mid week in the winter, at their own expense, to show their full support for Trump and their anger over the stolen election. Do not blame the 99%, blame Antifa.
Also, the security person, or police, who shot and killed Ashli Babbit, was not in fear for their life. I watched the video several times and it looks like a small black woman wearing a suit who murdered Ashli. This security person was definitely not in imminent danger. If Ashli had broken through the glass, she could and would have been arrested. There were multiple police coming up the stairwell right behind Ashli, who were armed with rifles and body armor. They easily could have secured safety. As a person who legally carries a weapon, I know that only under imminent threat to my life or the life of another person do I ever brandish my weapon or shoot someone. This person shot at the head from close range, murdered Ashli, and did it on purpose. It was homicide. It was not an act of self defense. I predict there will be no true investigation and no prosecution. Political reasons. White Veteran Lives Don’t Matter.
Just after this fraud of an election I decided to finally begin to contribute monthly to Billwhittle.com.. I am now going to increase my monthly contribution to provide whatever small support I can afford to your valiant efforts. I understand that I will not always agree completely with your videos. This one in particular, until the very end when you spoke about doing what you can to help Americans engage in this war to regain our country. If I was younger and without my long and checkered history, I would seriously consider running for election myself.

So who were the leaders at the Capitol? What started this? What corrections need to be done here? Perhaps the America you think exists no longer exists. Perhaps we have waited to long.

The GOP spent hundreds of millions (!) on the Georgia runoff elections alone. But it’s very likely that the candidates did not lose to their democrat opponents, but rather to voter fraud.
Here’s a suggestion. Start a whistleblower bounty fund for election fraud. E.g., The whistleblower would get $10,000,000 for convicting a big fish, and some sort of immunity or witness protection. It’s better use of money, and by design we would only pay for results.

Understood, but nothing gets fixed either. No one is held accountable and nothing changes.

I think the underlying point is that we must collectively fight the entropy in spite of our tendencies to nihilism and defeatism.

I respectfully disagree. I think there are a lot of prosecutors that would definitely indict if someone could bring the goods. Here’s why:
Hypocrisy is suicide of the self-image. If presented with a cooperative (even $$$ motivated !) witness, a DA sworn to uphold the law would wreck their own self image if they knew they gave in to corruption.
Know well — the Democrat system as a whole is pure hypocrisy, sure. And the elite left and MSM surely are self-aware hypocrites. But the cogs in the machine, the low level bureaucrats are allowed to think they are just “doing their job” and even “upholding the law”. Force them to be knowing hypocrites, or resign, or do the right thing. I think you’ll find most of them would take the last option.
I live an an extremely leftist area. I can tell you 90% of rank-and-file leftists think they are “fair” and “law abiding”, because they personally haven’t been pressured to commit fraud for the left. Instead, they just “go along” with fraudulent laws (mail-in ballots) orchestrated by the elite left.

I do appreciate the debate, and I do try to fully understand your point.
I wish I could still believe in non-corrupt officials.
How many prosecutors took up the fight to stop the fraud in this last election? There were plenty of willing testimonies, even without money.
However, as stated by the DOJ, there was no proof…. As far as I know there wasn’t any DOJ investigation either, so how could they have proof?
Please, tell me what proof is needed, there was video, electronic media, physical documentation, and even witness testimony, but still nothing. What state prosecutor is prosecuting anyone?
Whistleblowers are being threatened, and doxed. Now that the nothing has come of the complaints, the witnesses are left hanging out to dry.
I find the justice system has been taken over just like the education system. Any decent truly dedicated law enforcement either keep their heads down or just leave for other careers. There may be decent people in the justice system, but the overriding powers above develop the environment that makes decency impossible. Doing the “right” thing will get you fired, following policy (as they interpret it) will get you promoted. Even the Supreme Court is blatantly biased and corrupt. What makes us think a lower court, whose authority is subject to the Supreme Courts rulings, is going to rock the boat?
Yes, I understand I am jaded and defeatist, but I have also seen the inside of the system(worked not lived) and it is truly a nightmare of corruption. I truly want to see decent people win. However, as Bill has said, we are fighting in a “war”-game with an enemy whom doesn’t play by the rules. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. I really don’t believe we will win playing by the old rules.

Your point is well reasoned and clear, thanks for taking the time. I live in California, so most neighbors and practically all of the gov’t are center-left to left. Many of them that I know are principalled people (or think of them selves as such) — they aren’t “in” on the conspiracy and they could be persuaded if shown clear enough examples.
I agree w/ your point about prosecutions of fraud for the 2020 election, I think there’s enough there for court cases, but even many repubs. disagree (see: GA). But taking it to the person-to-person level, if I showed my friends an (verified real) election official admitting that helped rig the election, I firmly believe they would listen and help me raise a stink that couldn’t be ignored by the MSM. That’s why I think the whistleblower approach might work — get the perps to testify to what *they personally* did to rig the election and the house of cards will collapse.

I am pretty sure that you can’t benefit (be paid) for admitting to a crime. It violates some type of law if I recall correctly. You can’t report yourself and collect a reward for a crime you committed.

I heard your call to action, Bill, and here I am; I just joined the basic monthly plan. I’m an ugly old white man, the most hated and feared creature stalking the planet earth; everything is my fault, I don’t give a flying crap, and at my age, I’ve lost all of my filters. I’m not suitable for public viewing, but like David Feiker, who just commented before me, I can be useful at most anything else. I started in engineering and moved to oilfield mechanic, where I traveled the world, made more money, and had more fun. I also had a computer business, code websites, am a self-taught database manager, an aspiring writer (with a long way to go), and “I also walk dogs.” LoL, if you’re a Robert A.Heinlein fan, you get that last one.
I think I know how to fight this battle too, and tell me if I’m wrong or right. First, we have to organize, plan, train, and deploy a citizen’s army. Then, starting at the very bottom, get involved in every elected public office from Judges to district attorneys, from the sheriff to fire marshall, and from city council to the mayor in every city and every state. You’re going to need more paying members. Anyhow, if the person holding an office is a shithead, get them out and put our people in, and up the ladder, we go. There’s an old saying that you have two choices once you hit bottom, give up and die or start that long climb back up the ladder. Elon Musk, my hero, said, and I’m paraphrasing, I’m sure, that “only 1% keep trying.” It boggles my mind how few people gork that, but duh, the statement answers my question. It’s almost a “Catch 22,” now that is a great movie.

Discipline really is the hardest part.
I’m of two minds on this. One is directly in line with Bill, though I admit I have the aforementioned discipline issues to work on in my dealings with the Democrats in my life.
The other is the belief that this vehicle I am in called the Republican party is broken and my opponent, the Democrat, is far superior opponent than those I have allied myself with. Democrats are really good at playing the long game and accepting incremental victories over decades. It is that strategy that has us where we are today.
Republicans are still forming up in regiments, forming up their skirmish lines, and fighting with honor against an opponent that has none, and we have just had our asses handed to us again. If this party I am with is broken or the wrong vehicle for the conflict we are engaged with, then what?
I see two possibilities. Form a 3rd party, which will likely take decades and thus is not a viable alternative. The other is to join the Democrat party and change them from within. Democrats lust for power is their Achilles heel and I believe it is something we can manipulate to bring back that blue dog Democrat I once upon a time had a great deal in common with.
I worry about the viability of this latter plan because deception is not something that comes naturally to me, nor I suspect other Conservatives.

From the Democrat perspective, the long game is a whole lot easier when you don’t have to trifle over the legitimacy or the severity of the means employed to reach the desired end. We cannot simply reverse engineer Sal Alinsky’s tome. We must write an entirely new game that will appeal to the American soul in a way that the Left never could.

PLEASE watch these videos. If these are authentic, they clearly show certain goons breaking windows, and other more disciplined soldiers attempting to stop them.
I can’t personally vouch for these, maybe someone w/ video editing experience can give us a feel for whether these are authentic or more disinfo. I believe (and honestly, hope) these are legit.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347248837375746049
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347046917512028162

Thank you, Bill, once again for such reasoned commentary. I’ve been away for a while – got wrapped up with WalkAway as a WalkWith – they’ve done some great things I believe, but I think you’re on the right path moving forward!

You asked (well demanded actually) and I have answered. I am now a member after watching for a few years. Let’s do this! I live in the Minneapolis, MN metro and am willing to be part of a hub here. Outstate is mostly red already, but the metro holds the power. If I had any kind of charisma, I would have already tried to run for office, but I am joe nobody. I have never been a popular person. I speak my mind and don’t sugarcoat things. However I am willing to help with speech writing, voice overs, policy creation, or whatever. I want to be part of the solution!

Hi David, just wanted to say hi and let you know I’m from Minnesota as well. I joined this site about a month ago and this is my first comment on here! I think Bill is correct that we need to get educated and involved locally. I think Tim Walz is totally beatable in 22 and will be watching that race very closely. I saw a post on Parler, I think it was Michelle Bachman actually, about some of the potential candidates to run against Walz. I did not have time to look very closely at it but I think now is the time to start getting educated.
I would say lets see if we can get together for a beer sometime but I think socializing is still against the law in our state! Good to see another Minnesotan on here!

Pleased to find another from my home state! I plan on being active here, so when it is feasible I am open to maybe meeting with you and any others that are here but live locally.

I’ve been listening to Conservative voices all day, talking about what happened yesterday. But I knew your take would be the best — and it was.

Read the last few chapters of 2 Kings. Consider contemporary America as Israel. Consider the worldwide left as Babylon. Consider us as the remnant of the faithful the Lord rewarded with preservation. Might help focus your thinking about our situation, how we got here, and what we need to do to arrive at our restoration.

The woman who was shot was standing up on a window ledge, trying to break through. She was apparently told to stop and did not. That doesn’t sound like a disciplined military veteran. It doesn’t mean she should have lost her life but being told by a police officer to stop should have meant something to her.

There’s video of the moment she got shot. It was in a hallway, she was standing on the floor just in front of a double door, and a shot came through the window of one of the doors. If there was a warning, I couldn’t hear it. I suspect, though, that there wasn’t since the crowd in the hallway showed no reaction at all before the shot. If there had been a warning, at least some of them would have done something in response.

Did you view the video? Can you copy and post the URL or link so that all of Bill’s followers can view it?
JLYNAM earlier posted two videos in support the statements made. How refreshing to actually see those videos in support of a statement.
Your reply to Judie Adie was interesting. If it was supported by either a link to the video or a statement from you that you viewed the video it would have lent more credence to your response to Judie.
It’s apparent that you viewed and listened to the video based upon your comments about crowd reaction.
Finally, my point…. :
I appreciate your response to Judie.
It saved me from having to make one directly to her about anecdotal comments related to important events. Comments supported by referencing reliable news sources, such as Joshua Philipp or Roman Balmakov to name just a couple carry more weight. ( I like Epoch and a few others. Each of us have to pick our own choice since the demise of MSM’s integrity.)

Michael, I’ve appreciated other of your comments related to organizing, discipline, and security issues.

I just finished listening to Stratosphere Lounge 270. He is asking for suggestions from Members about where do we go from here.

How do I connect to a Stratosphere Lounge episode, live? I know it’s on Twitch but I could never successfully connect. I think I need step-by-step instructions for this one. (I’m embarrassed because I almost never need that, especially for tech.)

I have never watched a Stratosphere episode live. If you look at the shows by date, they are not only by date but time of posting as well. I am almost never awake at those times.
I live in Florida and Bill lives in California. It’s an East Coast West Coast thing.

They always start at 8:00 Eastern, though. Anyway, I’ll make a post to try to get the answer from the members at large. Thanks!

Bill Whittle. Com is good for viewing Bill, Steve, and Scott discussions. It’s also a good place to read about member observations and comments. It does not appear to be a great vehicle for the purpose of planning strategic approaches to resolving the issues on the table. What would you suggest?

I’ve set up a secure communications capability for us that rather lends itself to organizations. It might prove to be imperfect for all our needs eventually but for where we are now it’s quite good.

There’s an app called Keybase with both phone and computer versions. Get it here. Create an account, then search for a team (Keybase’s term for a group) called “mb2a” (Keybase forces all names of things into lowercase). Request membership (request required so not just anyone can join) and you’ll shortly be in with the small but growing number of us already there.

That’s a great place for discussions of all kinds about what we’re doing and coordination of actions we take.

P.S. This is the first public mention of this setup, since it’s now tested and ready to go. I’m also going to post about it on the blog today.

I have downloaded keybase. what type of things do you suggest for a username? It looks like once you establish the username you can’t change it.

We’re gonna hold up on that. I just found out that Keybase was acquired by Zoom, which is known to send user data to the Chinese. I’m looking for a replacement.

Like I said, Zoom is known to send data to the Chinese, so definitely not secure. I’ve settled on Signal. It doesn’t have the one feature I really liked about Keybase (groups and subgroups) but we’ll manage.

This is for our own internal MB2A communication. Wouldn’t want to do that in public. See my latest post.

Aphilosophae on twitter has recommended Signal (signal.org).
MeWe allows for private groups.

Yes, I decided on Signal. It has end-to-end encryption and can be made to be totally anonymous. MeWe’s not encrypted. More info will be out shortly.

I went looking for the video I saw but found a better one first. You’re right and I’m wrong. The only thing is I didn’t hear a warning. The shooter’s mouth either doesn’t move or I didn’t see it.

Apologies.

But where are our generals? Where is the command authority for the forces of freedom? You say we cannot just be a mob, but must be an army. Armies without leadership ARE just mobs! We have NOTHING. No leadership, no communications, no logistics, no planning, NOTHING!

We are a mob because we are desperate. We are desperate because there’s nothing that gives us hope. Where is our Washington? Our Patton for this new war?

Some of us have begun that work. It’s not much yet since there are few of us who are actively engaged (that I know of – I keep asking for people to get more involved) but I have a group Skype call set up for next Wednesday at 8:00 PM EST and I set up secure communications for us. I’m also going to create a web site and, of course, I’m still refining the DoS. (It’s close to being finished).

So the army has begun forming.

I would like to think that those leaders exist among us. I think many of us (including myself) are just waking up to this situation. Leaders will emerge.

This is the exact problem that Bill pointed out in the video. You’re looking for someone to come and save you from on high. We’ve been blind-sided, and now are in retreat, but if you think you’ve got it bad, you don’t know history.
Who will step up? People like Bill Whittle and Robert Barnes are already doing that, but until the troops are rallied, battle lines are redrawn, and a plan can be formed there will be casualties. Need motivation and discipline? Watch Jocko Willink. We’ve got communication lines: BillWhittle.com, Minds, Parler, Rumble, BitChute, Locals. They may not be here forever, but they are here now. Leaders will start to show up, but until then, you should be focusing on solutions to prepare for your own defense rather than waiting for someone else to come to your rescue. Who knows, maybe you’ll end up being one of those leaders.

Good answer. You are coming across as a dick much of the time, though. If that’s your style, OK then.

From time to time my instinct is to, if I cannot get into your mind through your eyes or ears, to contemplate using an ice pick.

I have to remind myself that if people do not have the eyes to see with and the ears to hear with I should pass them along to a Higher Authority.

Funny thing is, I do not like most hot dogs.

I’m hardly waiting for somebody, I’m merely pointing out that to convert the “mob” into an “army” takes a lot more than wishful thinking. And we have none of that. And if you think that watching YouTube videos with former frogmen passes for training and various online platforms as communications, then we’ve got a huge problem.

I think that’s why Bill needs the rise in membership so he can turn some money into a lot of money and then use that to do the training.

You’re right, it does take more than wishful thinking, but so far that’s all I’ve seen in your responses. It seems like you’re looking for someone else to appear out of thin air to save you. It takes time for people to get organized, and even more time for leaders to rise from those groups. It took months, in some cases years, of getting their asses kicked before the right leader came about and the right plan could be formed.
As for “watching YouTube videos with former frogmen,” it wasn’t about training. It was about learning some history, and realizing that if you think you’ve got it bad, there are people out there who have had if far worse; and despite that, they sucked it up and carried on.

Bill,
Your commentary on the recent events in D.C. was spot on. Too many Trump supporters are undisciplined (like Trump himself) and walked right into a political ambush. While I admire their passion, we don’t need people on our team who walk into ambushes. This may be an opportunity clean up the roles and assemble a thoughtful, articulable, and sustainable, constitutional approach to responsible government.
I only hope a reasonable defense can be mustered to temper the incoming administration until a constitutionalist movement can achieve electoral relevancy.

Your ability to understand what ordinary human beings do when their intelligence and dignity are insulted and walked all over and pissed on and shat on everyday for going on 4 months rivals that shown by Saint Francis of Assisi.

I am glad you are not in my family.

Don’t feed them. Maybe, if the troll can read better than he can write he’ll learn something.

I read and write well enough, thank you very much.

You need to learn to read the intent in the content.

I describe the Reptile who thinks he has more Self-Restraint than “Ordinary” human beings, and you call that Trolling.

You imagine yourself to be an Elite? Or one of those Angels John Adams described?

Thank you.

Tact does not work on some people though.

I forget to pause and leave them in God’s hands.

I put up a post about an Nigerian Methodist minister correcting people about how brave he was in prison.

It is both a Blessing and a Curse to not have to go through the trials people used.

I like that exchange in Lonesome Dove when Angelica Huston’s character meets the woman who only a few months before worked in a brothel and smiles:

“You did what you had to do.”

I’m not a big fan of filters. True he does come across as an angry jerk with a lack of tact. But he does seem to be nominally on board. I recommend weighing and testing his ideas with reason fixed firmly in her seat. If he is really with us he’ll take a more respectful tone on his own. On the other hand filters have a tendency to get more restrictive as the administrators keep finding new “bad” words to add. See also the new comments system at the Daily Wire.

If I cannot see a good reason to pay attention to the man I don’t.

I will never have the full measure of him, because people can change, and so can I.

But my sense is to read, and decide whether or not to move on.

I had a Sore Head today.about people wanting to rush to judgement about people taking advantage of an opportunity to give people who have treated them like garbage for going on 4 months a piece of their mind.

Civilization is the Management of Conflict, not the Absence of it. And to mange conflict, watch where you spit, fart and litter.

That’s not what I meant by filters. Did you see, i.e how Discord works? You put people on block, their messages still appear in the flow but as ‘blocked message, click to expand’. So if you are interested, it’s still a click away. If you have the extra time to bother, you are welcome to take more samples. But as a baseline you can concentrate your reading and writing to where it is fruitful. It also makes easy to see full threads f nothing but troll pingpong and avoid in bulk. Time is precious. And a nice side effect is that the attention seekers are starved of attention very soon and just move to other pastures.

Sometimes I think that perhaps Ed has just spent so much time railing against lefties that he has forgotten we’re a conservative forum here and it’s not only not needed, but is turning people away from contributing to Bill’s cause. Liberty and libertine are not the same thing.

It’s a private members club for a private company; and at some point if he’s causing Bill to lose money, the company is going to start taking an issue with that.

Sure, absolutely may be the case. Or maybe he’s just used to be write-only. Or loves the argument just for the sake of the argument instead of for reaching a goal.

When making a filter decision it’s impractical to judge or try to mindread. The effect is all the same in the end. I mean if you’re not so interested in the fencing or “I won” declaring stuff. On this forum we have plenty of good comments, and probably not enough time to read all of those, so why bother with those with initial suspect to be trash?

I sure hope we can find a candidate of high moral and ethical character who is willing to run the brutal, filthy gauntlet of a modern presidential election. You can only hide in your basement and win if you cheat and cheating cannot be our strategy.
I feel I’m as passionate about this as Bill, but four years may be much to short a time to upset the establishment GOP apple cart. I hope I’m wrong.

I sure hope we can find a candidate of high moral and ethical character who is willing to run the brutal, filthy gauntlet of a modern presidential election. 

That candidates name needs to be Bill Whittle. He’s the only person I know of who has that rare combination of being highly articulate, highly incorruptible and readily understanding of what makes this country great.

It’s a valid point. Perhaps he just doesn’t know he’s going to be President yet.

He made it very clear in ep.0 he can’t run himself. Because then he would be out of the game. The coach is not supposed to jump in and play the quarterback.

Yes, I remember. It’s a pity though. My above comment is actually tongue-in-cheek.

If Bill follows his own reasoning, however, sooner or later, he’ll realize that the gentleman with strong moral character, articulation and understanding of what makes this country great is not going to appear out of the sky no matter how long he waits for it to happen. The Kraken is never gonna descend from the clouds ready to render judgment no matter how long we keep looking. That gentleman is going to have be one of us . . . preferably Bill Whittle himself.

Bill should not be President. Bill should be the guy who runs the media effort for the guy who does become President. Think of how much better the messaging would have gone this entire election if Bill had been in charge.

Bill, the army has already begun to form. There are members here who have begun not only the steps you have laid out but also the organization we will need. It’s early days but it’s here.

Let us know we’re not working in vain. If you have other plans that require things other than what we’ve done so far, tell us now so we stop wasting our efforts and start on what you need.

We’re here and we’re ready to go.

Sadly, that army will have to be composed of Human Beings.

Had the rally earlier been at, say Mount Rushmore, the people there would still have been a Fighting Mad, only they would have had to jump into their cars and drive across some multiple of state lines to get to the Capitol Building.

And Mount Rushmore as a setting would have made sense. Especially considering the speech Trump delivered.

It would also have been taken as seriously by Mike Pence. But that’s on that particular Feckless Coward.

Antifa would have had to work very hard to keep the participants from stopping off aT one state or the other’s equivalent of Cheesequake Rest Stop, and over a serving of french fries and a large Shasta, deciding to turn around and head home before they did something foolish.

But that’s not what happened.

I understand something people whose opinions of their own Self-Restraint is greater than mine for reasons that I want to say are beyond my ability to understand:

Hot Heads and Opportunity often leads to foolish choices, and tragedy.

So I agree with Bill here, but far from completely.

Oh yes, if anyone here thinks they would be stronger-willed than the people who participated in that event (I am still not certain EXACTLY what happened) under the same circumstances, I want to say to them:

PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

Bill, I agree with just about everything you said in the video, but I have to stop you at 15:17: As you say, the enemy controls every mechanism of relief we have to fight this. And that INCLUDES the mechanism of making a case to the American people. They unilaterally control the entire media. The news (even Fox News), social media (wikipedia, twitter, facebook, youtube and various sources OUTRIGHT censor/punish people who speak up about this stuff and you’ve got legions of blatant soros trolls in right-wing blogs to the point that they are effectively working as a unit). Every effort to make this case to the American people was utterly SABOTAGED on every level. The only people who heard the case being made were people like us who already believed the case in the first place.

I do believe that this may very end up being a battle fought with bullets at some stage, but definitely not like what we saw yesterday. If the states declare their independence and rebel against our tyrannical federal government, that’ll be a different story entirely.

lol, that reminds me the old south park episode when the internet went down and everyone tried to remember how they lived before it took over. Some traces of the old style activity still exist, people TALK to each other time to time, maybe even meet in person, etc. Not just clinging to twitter for the next shot.
If not, then you;re right, it’s already the matrix and you have to wait till it falls apart by itself. With the socialist takeover on the horizon that might happen sooner than the usual.
As the old saying goes, you can’t free a slave, he can only do it himself. The fight is not for those who want to roll with the BS but who want america as it was created.

Exactly, Fan89. Prompts me to ask why Trump TO THIS DAY continues to use Twitter, when there are at least two uncensored, conservative alternatives. Trump and his advisors suffer from a lack of discipline. Go back and watch the debate with Biden, and note how Trump fails repeatedly to shut up and let Joe dig his own hole, then fall in it. Tell me why Trump and the GOP did not insist that poll watchers be installed in major swing state precincts – WEEKS before the elections. This one I probably already know the answer to, but why didn’t Trump’s DOJ demand the removal of Dominion equipment from every state in the Union – MONTHS before the elections. Not trying to pin this mess entirely on Trump, but the personality that got him into the Oval Office is to an extent a reason why he is now leaving. In entrepreneurship, we learn early on that the skill set needed to build a company, is quite different from the skill set needed to operate it day by day.

Twitter had bettter reach for much of the last few years, and Trump has enough followers that they had to dance a delicate dance around him.

Even now, if Trump publicly drops Twitter it would hit them hard.

As to the rest of your questions, they are almost Academic now.

You might as well question the coaches’ calls from a a 10 year old football game recorded on a VCR.

Either way, someone else besides me will be happy to spend an afternoon discussing them with you.

Trump has no authority in how elections are executed. That is up to the states. Also in plenty of other things people blame him for in utter ignorance on how the republic, the law, etc works.
OTOH indeed he did lot of things vert poorly that is his task and responsibility. Especially in the realm of draining the swamp. He kept appointing idiots and backstabbers. Also yeah, he should have migrated to a twitter alternative long ago.

Thanks Andrew, I did the same thing after the election. Bill is one of a few voices out there with the intellectual / political literacy to make objective assessments.

“This is not about storming barricades and smashing windows. It is about storming ideologies and smashing ideas – it is a war against evil philosophy.” BW.
Proud to be a supporter.

Thank you, Bill. I’ve been trying to make this point over and over again. We must not fight like the left. We have to be better people and that is what will save this country.

You have to be the people that John Adams and Benjamin Franklin said you needed to be to keep the republic.

I don’t know about anyone else but personally I downvote posts if they are baseless ad hominem attacks on people (we have enough of that from the left). I also downvote posts that contain childish petulence and needless profanity. I very rarely downvote a post because I disagree with it: I usually respond instead.
I will rate a blogpost lower if it contains broken links; is just a video with no explanation (since I am often unable to view media when online); or if I feel that it’s overrated currently for the content it provides. My 5 star ratings generally go to those posts which are either really interesting, or have a lot of effort put into the writing, even if I don’t agree with the matter at hand.

I understand your ratings argument. I just happened to notice a -1 beside your post and wondered what was objectionable about it. It seems to be gone now.

A certain small number of people on here don’t like me much. Perhaps I say uncomfortable truths. Perhaps they don’t live up to their conservatism as much as they profess. Who knows. But it seems to garner me some negative votes.

You can even out the votes on this platform back to 0 since it treats 0 as a number state between -1 and 1.. so if Bob votes me down and John votes me up, I end up back at zero. You could have hundreds of negative votes, but if the positive ones cancel them, you’d never see the affects.

Jack, it seems that I now rate at least a single downvote from someone as well, and I’m flattered. Seriously, whoever you are, keep it coming.

Like little badges of honour aren’t they. The last time someone tried cancelling people they were a democrat. Makes me wonder how conservative some people really are.

The infrastructure here is lacking the very basics. For one, displaying the names who made the up and downvotes. Just having that would result in more polite behavior. And for the poster easier to see if it’s just the same group of opposite opinions so the down can be counted as up.
The other obvious miss is the filters. Twitlists save so many flamewars and nerves. I hope eventually migration to a better framework happens. Till then just ignore the numbers.

Cancellation, baseless ad hominem attacks, propensity for violent protest, trying to silence those who disagree with your personal opinion? Are you *sure* you are a conservative?

Hmm. Look at your independence. Certainly my army was the better trained, better equipped etc. But I think, in that case, yours had the better cause of freedom: which makes them the better people. They also won.
Oh and the civil war. Weren’t the north being ‘better people’ by trying to free the slaves? They won.
And perhaps I’m going out on a limb here, but I’m pretty sure we’d class the Allies as ‘better people’ than the Nazis. Thank goodness they won, eh?

I think the vast majority of southern military guys, very few of whom owned slaves, were fighting because northerners were threatening to take their land, their wives, and their stuff. The hostilities over slavery were between freedom loving Republicans and slavery loving Democrats (both north and south). The regular southern army guy (and the northern guy) really had no choice but to get caught up in that.

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