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Yeah, except that you don’t see a lot vigilante vengeance squads tracking down criminals etc. in a police state. It’s a very hard thing to organize and carry out in a modern police state with modern technology at its disposal.

There are such groups but they’re not those who are opposed to the goals and narratives of that police state anyway. In a police state what you’re far more likely to see is “irregulars” who carry out the will of the State in an extralegal (outside of official law) parameter.

They do what the state does not want to dirty its hands over. The state may not want to do certain things for fear of economic and political sanctions by other countries or other handicaps — So it turns a blind eye to the activities of these “irregulars”. When those irregulars drag someone out of bed at 3AM and shoot him in the back of the head in front of family and neighbors as an object lesson, the State is what made that happen, but not “officially”. Because it does not “officially” control the irregulars like it does its military and police.

Then the State can wring its hands and say “That’s not us, that’s vigilante vengeance squads and we have no control over them. We’re trying to stop them but are having no success so far. We are deploying measures to counteract that sort of thing but it takes time for those to be successful.” This is called “plausible deniability”.

I don’t know you and I’m not trying to criticize you but think about the bigger picture and look at what has happened elsewhere and before. (I.E. Hitler’s Brown Shirts and tons of central and South American “death squads”.) The people who we’re opposed to are not stupid, not the spiders at the middle of the web anyway, though there are certainly plenty of stupid, useful idiots to use as marionettes. That’s nothing new, there are always plenty of those around.

It’s not easy to overcome a self-ruled system and doing so means there are people who already know, expect, and have remedial countermeasures in mind for things like your vigilante squads.

There are already tried-and-true historical examples to learn lessons from. On both sides. There’s a lot of information for the bad guys to draw on concerning how to make their plans work.

Those spiders will follow that path; improving, improvising and adapting as needed. They’ll do that knowing that others have had success in seizing power with those same basic mechanisms.

Death squads are one of those useful mechanisms. You might think you’re well armed and prepared to deal with something like that. I’ve been all over the world and I’m pretty sure you’re not. It’s nothing personal, no citizen is. The full weight and resources of a government are an order or two of magnitude above that level.

It is nearly impossible to successfully organize a “vigilante squad” when a police state is opposed to such things. That’s why it’s called a police state.

It’s hard enough (but not impossible and you’d better damn well know what you’re doing ’cause the learning curve is a killer, literally) for any resistance to operate in secret, with need-to-know cellular organization and partisans who blend in with the population. Police States are expert in rooting that kind of thing out. Vigilante squads are child’s play in comparison.

Vigilante squads can and will be decimated in very short order at the tipping point towards a police state. The very nature of them begs for the infiltration of informants and how many average, righteously angered Joe Citizen types in your hypothetical squad are going to successfully resist torture?

I’ll tell you how many. None. It doesn’t matter what you tell yourself now, this isn’t a movie and when they start grinding your teeth down past the gums with a wood rasp, or putting electric needles in your optic nerve, you’re going to give them everything they want. You’re going to make up things you think they want so they’ll stop. That doesn’t make you a coward or a sell-out. I makes you a normal human being.

Vigilante squads who oppose the will of the police state actually help the police state establish and maintain power. They give the State an excuse to crack down, seize private arms and deploy ever more draconian measures to counter “vigilantism”. Such things as vigilantism bring on the very thing they claim to oppose. In fact, the State will even subtly encourage things like that to have those excuses and to draw out enemies where they can be smashed.

Make no mistake, we are not blundering into a Leftist system through sheer stupidity. Stupidity is a tool, not causation.

Antifa, if present conditions are brought to full fruition by the Left, will be one of those “irregular” organizations. They’ll be hunting your hypothetical vigilantes, not the other way around. Antifa wants that very badly and is working with spiders and stupids to make it happen.

Like I said, I don’t know you and this isn’t meant as a criticism of your ideas. What I’m trying to do here is to get people to be realistic about the force and depth of the very, very grave threat we are facing to our liberty. There’s hope in our direction too but if we get to the point of vigilante squads hunting Antifa down we’ve lost our Republic and it’s time to go to Plan B.

You’re not going to like Plan B, it’s amazingly uncomfortable and dangerous. That’s not a reflection on you either, I hate that idea enough that I’m doing everything I can to avoid Plan B. Including pleading with people to understand and be realistic.

I’ve been there and done that and there’s nothing but misery down that road for a long, long time. Worse yet, in my experience I knew that if I survived some day I’d be going home to the U.S.

If that kind of thing is happening in the U.S., there’s no place else to run to. America is the most powerful and richest apple on the tree. If it falls, all others will fall with it in short order. If the might and wealth of America is brought to bear with unscrupulous Leftist malice on the globe, the globe is up a creek with no paddle.

Plan B also contains no guarantee of victory, or that it won’t just make things worse. It’s a lot easier never to let the boulder get rolling down the mountain than it is to stop it half way to the bottom.

I agree with you and share the same hope. My point was to illustrate the natural progression of a successful attack on law enforcement. I’m not saying it will be successful, I’m simply explaining the logic of the attack.

There are two dangers that apply here.

1.A media that doesn’t actually tell people what’s going on.

I lived in Australia where they have some really tough gun laws Generally, you can own a gun but you have to leave it “checked in” at a police armory. When you want to get your gun you have to go there and “check it out” of the armory. To check it out, you have to have a reason that the police will accept. I.E. if you say you want to take your gun on a hunting trip, you have to show your hunting license, the gun has to be suitable for the kind of license (you can’t check out your .22 to go deer hunting and you can’t check out your deer rifle to go rabbit hunting) and the gun has to be returned at the end of the hunting trip. There are exceptions like “stations” (what we would call ranches) in the Outback that have a rabbit problem, etc. That kind of thing, Canada is heading there too.

So the mantra in Australia is “We allow our citizens to own guns. We just have reasonable gun laws to prevent crime.” You don’t really own your gun if you have to ask permission to hold it in your hand or take it out of a police station but this is a prime example of political doublespeak. Aussie’s guns were effectively taken away from them and can only be used under the most stringent of government control.

There was a home invasion type robbery a couple blocks over from where I lived. A handgun was involved but no one was shot. This event never appeared in any media at all. It wasn’t on the local news, it wasn’t in the paper, it just simply was not covered at all. So I asked my Aussie wife (now ex-wife) “If it’s not covered in the media at all, other than events local to us how do we know this isn’t happening on a regular basis all over Australia?” She said “Don’t be such a dag*, of course it isn’t.”

To my thinking, the gun laws the Aussies are so proud of are propped up by a complicit media that doesn’t report crimes where a gun is used. This gives everyone a false sense of security that there are few or no gun crimes due to their “excellent gun laws” when in reality that is not so.

2.Compromise of the election process.

All bets are off if elections are rigged and the true will of the people is not represented by the election process. This is something I feel we need to place in top priority before it’s too late and #1 above tells us all everything is just fine.

(*Dag — A dangling wad of feces caught in the wool around a sheep’s rectum.)