After Bill talked about the likely prevalence of brown dwarfs and the implication for them as stepping stones between stars in interstellar exploration and colonization, I got curious and looked around for information on the subject. I came across some very interesting Youtube videos by Isaac Author on similar (but not exactly the same) topics that made me think the brown dwarfs are a lot more promising destinations than I originally suspected. I don’t know enough about the specific details to know how accurate everything is, but nothing jumped out at me as obviously incorrect and it inspired a lot of ideas.
(Spoiler: Planets in orbit of the brown dwarf may have under-ice oceans kept warm by tidal forces, radioactive decay in the core, and/or proximity to the brown dwarf that are suitable for seeding with Earth aquatic life* or may even harbor their own life. Think Europa.)
Here are the videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOu3zGfP-TQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNRQFKVV68I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQnvjGN91Mg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VBCxWcAPXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkeLIAd2Nd0&t=1321s
Also, other near interstellar destinations would be the Oort Cloud and the Solar Focii. The estimates I found for size of the Oort cloud suggest it may extend as far as 1.6 to 3 light years away from the Sun. For comparison, Alpha Centauri is just over 4 light years away. I don’t know enough about astronomy and trinary star systems to know if the Alpha Centauri system would also have a similar cloud of comets around it… but if so then those clouds look like they might blend into each other, perhaps even with a few outer comets migrating from one system to the other. Even without deliberately constructing interstellar spaceships, humans might establish a presence in the Alpha Centauri system just from gradual expansion of Oort cloud object mining and exploitation in a sort of Polynesian island hopping model. But I’d expect that to take longer than 200 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Bx7y0syxc
OTOH, sending telescope optics to various points on the solar foci might be easily accomplished within the next century.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek-RGylFNR4&list=PLaEYPgNFlkha3N4T_Uy0YMyXiHcGwn3Bx&index=29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuYkzlixHg&list=PLaEYPgNFlkha3N4T_Uy0YMyXiHcGwn3Bx&index=28
* Is it terraforming if we are making a world more like our oceans, or is that aquaforming?
4 replies on “Brown Dwarf Colonization Inspiration”
Interesting videos. I’m not optimistic about life having evolved on TNOs in the Oort Cloud, but I’m somewhat more optimistic about technically being able to build survivable colonies on them.
There is the problem of the economies of such places. Where does the material to build habitation a few light weeks from earth come from? Mining the asteroid belt, or even Jovian or Saturnian moons helps only slightly as those locations are negligibly closer to the middle of the Oort Cloud than Earth itself. Even an Epstein drive vehicle would take months or even years to get there. Then, who would pay for it and why? What would such distant ice balls be able to trade to make it worth shipping the supplies they couldn’t make themselves? We’re talking transit times equivalent to 15th century overland trading routes to even get back to Saturn’s orbit.
Its just possible that there may be resource rocks out there that could make the trip worthwhile, but finding such and getting to them for exploration would take Expanse level technology (sans proto-molecule) in both propulsion and AI in automated probes to find.
I think the material would be in-situ. Bill was talking about utilizing brown dwarfs, which would probably have planets and comets and other such things a solar system ought to have. The videos talked about rogue planets and asteroids, both of which obviously have plenty of material to make habitats from.
Who would do it and why? One reason for a small colony might be specifically because it is so isolated and hard to find. Think of Skelling Michael or Shangri-la or Jonestown or Plymouth Rock. A religious order, particularly one that has been made illegal or is being persecuted, might want to set up a self-sufficient new world away from everyone else populated only by their own. Or rebels who want a hidden base for their gov’t in exile to lick their wounds. It might also be a safety-valve for people who have had enough of society, like running off to join the Cossacks or be a Mountain Man (particularly if technology allowed one person with a cargo-hold of self-replicating robots to have his own private self-sufficient habitat to be constructed as long as he could find the deuterium to power everything, which should be common on icy worlds). That might appeal to a lot of introverts (and if that introvert was a scientist then you have a space-borne Island of Dr. Moreau.) The Space Force may want a space DEW line. Astronomers might want to be away from the radio-chatter of the solar system. If they have enough raw materials and self-replicating tech, why would they need to trade? Although if necessary, it would be easy enough to trade information (like Mr. Stone in The Rolling Stones). They might also trade whatever was so illegal that the criminal cartels had to move production out of the solar system into someplace impossible to find. If there is interstellar trade, a habitat near a trade route might trade energy with passing ships (providing solar power or propulsion via. laser or maser) or even possibly some material (perhaps by particle beam or electromagnetic accelerator).
Thanks for sharing the links, Chris! I hadn’t run across that channel before and will make some time to give those a watch!
Isaac Arthur is awesome! He’s a physicist and probably has the most interesting show on YouTube (or anywhere) about our potential future in space and here on Earth. On a slightly unrelated note, I think he may secretly lean Right (probably from a Centrist position) based on some of his Twitter follows and other minor hints. He carefully avoids politics in favor of his subject matter, which is probably very smart, which he is.