What if I told you that there was a pilot program that reduced inmate violence, increased cooperation and good behavior, and seemed to genuinely transform prisoners into more caring and responsible individuals — and not in ten or twenty percent of the test subjects, but rather in the low to mid NINETY percent range? What if I told you it cost taxpayers nothing and incentivized the incarcerated to work harder to pay the minimal costs? And what if all that was true, and it was working right now? Scott has the seriously amazing details.Â
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Excellent! (Although dogs have owners. Cats have “staff.” LOL)
Another thing we should look into is … why … has there been an explosion of food allergies?
Personally, I think it’s the development of the Super Mom, the Helicopter Mom. I’ve watched it happen.
A mom, wanting to be the BEST mom, afraid her kid had food allergies. No evidence the kid had food allergies at that point. So she did not feed him the more common foods for which it is known that some people are allergic.
Well guess what? Later, when he accidentally ate some of these foods …. he’s allergic to most of these foods. What are the chances of that?
I think it turns out, “pretty high” — if you don’t expose your child to these things when they’re young. So it becomes a self-fulfilling thing – the mom is justified in protecting the kid from allergies during his first few years of life, and, will you look at that, a few years later it turns out they were “right”, so see what a good Mom I am? Never occurs to them — THEY likely caused it! And if it did, they’d bury that thought, because their identity is wrapped up in how awesome a mom they are.
So … households with pets tend to produce fewer children (and later, adults) with respiratory issues? Gee… I wonder why THAT might be?
Bravo! I grew up with a dog we got as a puppy, and she was my loyal companion and best buddy. She died when I was away at college and I mourned her for years. But as an adult, I’ve had cats, lots of them and loved all but one – a nasty Siamese. She went to an adoption agency, about which I had/have no regrets.
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“I thought I was teaching him how to shit in a box, but really he was teaching me not to shit where I eat” – James Madison
That’s my take on the “… but really he was teaching us how to love.” Hollywood trope.
Owner of the cat 🤣🤣🤣
Anyone who’s lived with (and loved) a cat knows very well he’s the one that’s owned!
Never heard of the Bird Man of Alcatraz, Scott?
That was my 1st thought!
I’m with Bob Nelson on this one. I’m 64 and I’ve had cats all my life, with the exception of moving out of the house for the first time as a kid, and those 3 years I had no pets and it was lonely and kind of miserable. At 25, I found my bride and then kids and then cats back into our lives. Been that way ever since and my wife is smart enough to gauge when the oldest is on last legs, she has to get a kitten to be a companion to the other middle aged cat in the house. We have 2 now. Both rescues, but the dark seal point Siamese is one who as a kitten was feral in the gold rush foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains. An amazing org of volunteers catches these cats, takes care of the plumbing, and of those who might be able to be socialized with humans, they advertise and find homes. Those who are just a little too feral, this org has 10 fenced off acres in the foothills and dozens of cats live out their lives there. Cat Condos, food, vet service, warmth and even some AC in the “great condo” during the extremely hot July/August periods. All volunteer workers do this. Like a service club for cats. Before we knew this cat was available, the organization called 10 Lives Sanctuary brought her to the hospital for treatment of a near deadly case of a respiratory infection…twice. At their expense. There are very good people out in this world
I can see that you’d have to have the right cat for the right inmate and the right conditions, but everything you three said about “statistics and feelz” makes sense. It also makes total sense that some who have not had cats, or dogs for that matter, may not ‘get it’ and scoff at the stupidity of these programs. To that I’d say, check the results, if those who took part in the program were back in jail the next week after release, then the program didn’t work. But it the stats show a drop in return to the hole for those who had the cats versus those who didn’t, maybe just maybe the program’s worth it.
And oh yeah, I’ll be the first knucklehead to post the cat photo.
Don’t let Lennie have one! Worked in a county jail for two years and wouldn’t work there. But I think it is great for a long term facility.
Bill mentioned the stereotype of “he became a murderer ‘cuz he never had a puppy”. There’s a dark corollary to that. A reliable way to root out sociopaths is if they are given a pet that “mysteriously disappears”. Along with other neighborhood animals. Killing small animals is a proven indicator of future murderous behavior.
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As for talking to the cats, it’s easy to know what they’re thinking. Generally, it’s “Quiet Hooman! Unless you have food or tummy rubs! In which case, provide them promptly and be gone!”
Having been the house servant to three feline masters in my life, I am well aware of my place in their universe!
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I’ve had cats as pets for most of my life, and I can understand why this would/could work. Cats are great companions and can have a calming affect on you, or if it’s a kitten, they take up all of your attention caring for this tiny little life.
You forget about everything else and are focused on their care.
Don’t worry, something that works with 90%+ positive results is just a new challenge for the government. To find a way to screw it up.
If this becomes a thing that the government decides to promote they’ll get it down to -10% effective in no time. It’s how government magic works.
Ways to screw it up.:
1) Make cats for inmates mandatory.
2) Penalize inmates for giving the cats “too much time/toys”
3)Wait until the positive results begin then take the cats away, just because.
I’m sure there are more I haven’t thought of.
We got the exact thumbnail that Bill promised, except for the prison bars in front of the cat. Which, come to think about it, aren’t really necessary.
So I don’t know the trajectory of view at YT, I try to “rewatch” each video over there just to drive volume and push the content higher.
But 2 hours after this has posted it past 1300 views.
Cowards -released 4 days ago is at 10k while the Hunter one (Man of Integrity) is at 5700 after two days.
In looking through recent vs old, it is almost like there is a hard cap on views of 10k. Even though his channel has 187k subscribers. GUess this is what they mean by shadow banning.
Eat the Rich is over 1M and some of the Virtual President are over 2M.
We’ll see where this is on Friday.
“Ron”, take a gander at this: Give the old man some juice with a clickbait headline, remove any possibility of shadow-banning, and look at what he gets….on YT no less.
Would love to see the stats to learn how many stuck around after the first few minutes and total minutes watched. DW has those stats.
Absolutely loved that series. Nice to see DW put it out for the unwashed. I have a friend who teaches history at the HS and will send him the links to all the parts so his class can watch them.
Thanks for sharing.
IDK what the deal is with this “Subscribe” button above these comment threads, but it doesn’t work right. I set it to “new replies to my comments”, and now I get notifications for every comment.
My only question would be … do the cats get paroled with their cell mates?
IF YOU DO THE CRIME YOU DO THE TIME. THIS IS FOOL HARDY
How so??? Perhaps I’m not understanding your meaning!?!? Are you suggesting no penalties for any crimes, as though you were a Soro’s funded DA/AG?
I am saying if you commit a crime you go to Prision I am tired of so many problems being used to help the person who never had a puppy.
I think I know what state you’re talking about Scott. My old neighbor was a Pa state police captain, and he said the exact same thing to me.
I haven’t been around cats since I was a kid (long time ago), but we’ve had as many as 5 dogs at a time. But dogs wouldn’t work well in a prison setting necessarily (I seem to remember a reality TV show called “Pitbulls and Parolees” or something like that) – most dogs require a measure of exercise that a prison cell doesn’t provide very well. But cats? Feral cats? Hey, it may seem weird, but if it works and if the prisoners do what’s required, it seems like a good investment — even bringing in a part-time vet to treat, spay/neuter, and immunize.
Have you heard. about my favorite cause:
PUPPIES BEHIND BARS? They. work wonders in. prisons!
Jane Vander Poel
The best part of this “program” is that it is not a program. It is many programs across the several states.
the worst thing that could happen would be for this to become a federal program.
We would end up breeding cats so that every inmate would have one, whether they wanted one or not.
This is a wonderful idea. I’ve heard of programs where prisoners earn the right to work with dogs and horses, too, to great effect.
I think it was U.S. Grant who said, “There is something about the outside of a horse that’s good for the inside of a man.”
And Bill, I can’t tell you how many times I heard someone say, “I don’t like cats, but this one is different.”
Have 4 rescue dogs now, all 40 lbs plus (all under 60). Grew up with both dogs and cats. Cannot have indoor cat. I am way too allergic. Does not matter what meds I take. Tried it. Can’t tolerate more than about 4 hours. And that is if I bath them and vacuum daily. Diet doesn’t help. So, I cuddle with my dogs.
And yes, me and my wife talk to them. And put words in their mouth. And trust me, we know what they want.
And sometimes that’s affection. Which they give back in abundance.
More than once we get looks that say, in effect, “Its ok. I love you.”
You don’t own cats. They own you. Cats don’t love unconditionally. That’s a dog. We have both. Different cat breeds are more tolerant of our attempts at affection and they are the ones that deem whether you are worthy to pet and hold them. They are the ones that train you.
Our Bengal is a one-master animal, and that’s Mrs. jaknoz. I am merely there to wake up and feed it at 6:45 and handle the catbox. I’ve been trained by the creature, who is a force for entropy. If he’s not fed, something expensive will be sent off the ledge of the dresser to crash on the floor. (I now have throw pillows stacked to avoid this causing breakage.). If the box is too full, the gorgeous lake home I live in is marked to the point of intoleration to the human nose.
It would make too much sense to give inmates a free cat and have everything about their personalities improve. Our government isn’t about sense. Our government just wants to be fed, giving less than a hairball about our welfare.
You’re right about that. Dogs have owners, cats have staff. However, my cat does show affection in her own feline sort of way.
“Our government isn’t about sense. Our government just wants to be fed, giving less than a hairball about our welfare.”
Morris the cat for president!
Darn it! You beat me to the owner and staff joke.
But here’s another.
Cats were worshipped as gods in ancient Egypt.
And they have never forgotten it.
And another one I’ve heard recently.
If the world was flat, cats would have pushed everything off the edge by now.
I’ve heard the one about about gods in Egypt. The flat earth one is new to me – so funny, so true!
Cosby used to have a line about parents and kids. Works with cats in this context too. “You’re not really a parent if you only have 1 kid (or cat), because whenever something breaks, you always know who did it”.
With my dogs, the odds are about 90% that one dog in particular did whatever bad thing that happened.
Willful. Breed trait.
If our only male did it, we would know that. He would come to us with a demeanor that says “I’m so sorry. Please don’t take me away.”
He was a puppy on the street for weeks in February. Animal control had him for a week when we got him. He looked like a concentration camp survivor. You could see every bone in his body. Our opinion is that he was dumped.
Horrible idiots. Sweetest, friendliest, most protective dog I’ve ever had.
And I say you are not a real dog owner if you only have one. Just an amateur. No sibling rivalry for one. You are real pro if you have at least three.
We have four. That’s about our limit. And if we had more than five adults where we live, we would need a kennel license.
You’re a sleuth then…2 dogs and 1 does it 90% of the time, easy. 4 dogs??? I guess breeding and how you selected the dogs really plays a role in “who’s the stinker”! My daughter has a male dog that nearly made it through service school, but flunked for some reason. That’s when she got the dog. Near perfect, but really shines when it’s done the rare bad-dog thing, for it’s got the best “shamed dog” act I’ve ever seen. Harry….4 dogs??? You’ve got some time on your hands, and I hope that’s all you have on your hands!
kidding.
4 dogs and a somewhat handicapped wife. Just got left knee replacement. I’m next for same knee. Wife needs a herniated disk in her back fixed.
As to knowing who does what….
Paper pulled out of trash can? Lily. At least part Catahoula Leopard dog. Almost anything pulled out of garbage? Lily. Tearing up plastic on floor? Lily. Tearing sheet covering couch? Lily. Taking other dogs treats if not fast enough? Lily. Pulling things off of table? Lily. Paper on floor chewed up? 70% chance Lily. Rest is Maggie. Pen on floor chewed up? 70% Maggie (I know; shocker) rest Lily.
Lily does these when we are watching and she knows it. She MAY stop if yelled at.
Jack misbehaving? Not if he can help it.
Bella? Princess. Her main problem is being underfoot.