Nikki Haley — and others — have already announced their candidacy for the 2024 Presidential election… just a few months after the 2022 election. Are we in a state of Perpetual Campaigning? And how to deal with Donald Trump, a non-incumbent incumbent?
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I disagree Scott, if Uncle Joe gets elected, there is 0 chance we prolong this Republic.
Ah Trump supporters vs the Republican Party. is it that simple or is it Trump supporters vs the Rhino’s and the Swamp? I started like many as a Kennedy Democrat that one day woke up and found the party had labeled me as a Republican. then i became disallusioned by the continued shenangins of both parties. the Tea Party was a refreshing bit of air but once incorporated into the Party it well, evaporated. Then Trump showed up and things got ballistic – good for country -yet bad that the Republican Party hard core could not support their President- remember having both the House and the Senate and not passing legislation?
if Trump is not elected in the Primaries do i want Nikki a WEF graduate? don’t think so. more swamp in the end. guess I’ll hunker down and wait for the fall and practice my Mandarin
It was “Lyin’ Ted” …. and I thought that was a terrible thing for him to do. And then … yeah, I still voted for Trump once he was the nominee. I was a Cruz man.
I can’t wait to hear Trump’s nicknames for these idiots as we get into the debates. Low energy Job! was the best. Please applaud hung him on his own self-applied noose. And by the way, he called Ted Cruz Lyin’ Ted. Not a good one and not appreciated in Texas. Probably lost him a few votes. But you will note that Ted has already announced his only interest this time around is staying in the senate and helping Texas this time.
The very best ticket would be Trump/Desantis. Some say that cannot happen because they cannot be from the same state. Not sure of the rules on that. But imagine 4 years of Trump helping Desantis learn the rules of DC and Desantis helping him pick better people for his cabinet. That sets up an 8-year follow on of Desantis that is unbeatable in my opinion.
And as for the left “liking” McCain and Romney- they “liked” them right up to the point they got the nomination, and then they found all kinds of stuff to hit them with. Driving with your dog on top of your car?? Who cares? But prior to that they were saying “Oh please don’t make us run against Romney or McCain- they reach across the aisle, and are true statesmen and we fear them”.
Steve is spot on about his “outside the tent” republican voters. The only way another person would win the nomination and actually get elected would be if Trump then threw his support behind them and actually campaigned with them.
The fact that Trump is spending any time talking about DeSantis and giving him nicknames prior to his announcing is wasting energy.
Trump has a real opportunity to use his existing pulpit to point out everything that Biden and his admin are doing wrong and pointing out how badly the economy is damaged. Then let people know what he would do about it. He could demonstrate his communication ability and some statesmanship.
His staff could put together a list of the crimes committed by people crossing our southern border illegally and even get in an I told you so about the wall.
Same thing for fentanyl deaths.
Putin into Ukraine – would not have happened under Trump. What’s he going to do differently.
Energy policy – easy win for him. We went from net exported to shortages.
Ignoring any possible Rep challenger until he actually has one is a better strategy.
At this point, there is no real Challenger other than possibly DeSantis. If Trump would use his time to attack Biden and say what he would do differently, and communicate it well – no one else would run against him.
By giving petty, school yard nicknames, he looks puerile and small.
Trump calling DeSantis childish nicknames isn’t only wasted energy. As you said, it makes him look really bad. To anyone who’s not a rabid “Trump or nothing” type that is.
Ron DeSantis isn’t even running, yet. I presume this juvenile school yard behavior is to dissuade DeSantis from throwing his hat into the ring. That means that Trump knows DeSantis is a real, viable political rival.
If Trump cared about America he wouldn’t be undermining the Republican Governor of one the newest of Red States just to try to keep him out of the race. Trump has also viciously attacked Brian Kemp, the Governor of Georgia and other officials from that state. Ostensibly because they didn’t support his plea to “find them 11,000 votes” which is now a legal issue.
Georgia just recently tightened up its voting laws by quite a lot … Isn’t that what we want the Governor of Georgia and every other state to do?
Besides Florida and Georgia, Trump has just as viscously attacked our own Glen Youngkin here in VA.
Who’s side is Trump on? The answer — Trump’s side and only that.
As you point out — There are huge targets on the other side that would be better attacked. Trump promotes Trump at the expense of Conservative America.
As Ken Miller said down the page, losing the way he did has changed Donald Trump and not in a good way. I’m more than a little worried what he might do if he does manage to get elected.
Because going around talking about nullifying the Constitution and peevishly attacking all his allies is not the mark of a man I want to see lead The Free World.
As Harry and others have pointed out, running Trump in the national election is guaranteed to galvanize the Democrats to get out and vote more than anything else that’s likely to do that. Running Trump will easily motivate more Democrats to get out and vote than simply running Joe against another candidate.
That might very well offset the Trump-or-nothing voters nominally-but-not-really on our side.
Too, Donald John Trump has a LOT of legal problems that have not yet all come home to roost. He’s being investigated by both the State of Georgia and the U.S. Dept. of Justice for attempting to overturn election results. Above and beyond any January 6th issues.
Those are not the only issues. Some absolutely are but not all those allegations are completely without legal merit. It doesn’t matter if Trumpies want to blow all that off as some sort of political persecution. All it takes is one solid conviction on one issue to put a halt to Trump and his hopes for another term.
Even if it doesn’t disqualify Trump. A solid hit plus voter turnout on the Democrat side means a lost election for us. I find the prospect horrifying.
Ron DeSantis may well be holding back on a run for the Presidency to see how those things play out in court. It would be foolish for DeSantis to go toe-to-toe with Donald Trump if a court somewhere takes Trump out for him.
Of all the legal challenges that Trump has on his plate; I believe the one he against which he is least likely to prevail are the tax ones in NYS. Not because those have more merit, just that the deck is fully stacked against him on that one in terms of who is in control of the legal system.
One of the things that has become clear over the past two years is that DeSantis has better advisers around him than Trump does; or at least he listens to them better.
Attacking Youngkin makes no sense to me. As a single term Gov new on the national scene who was a tamer version of Trump using some of his rhetoric to win and turn a fairly blue state back to purple with a hint of red, Youngkin would have made a very solid VP selection.
Just winning the nomination and selecting Youngkin would have been a sufficient poke at DeSantis.
This tearing down any R rival when he will need them is foolish, at best. It is as if he did not learn the lesson that to get anything done in Congress, one needs allies not rivals. Politicians are some of the most petty people on the planet. They WILL withhold support out of spite even if it is the right thing to do.
Yeah, Trump should have learned his lesson about the pettiness of politicians when he lost the bid to overturn Obamacare by a single vote. Which was John McCain. Whom he pissed off greatly.
I’m just using that as a single, glaring example. There are others. McCain is absolutely at fault for putting his petty peevishness over the good of the nation but … Trump bears some blame too.
That kind of thing is, among many others, what worries me about Donald Trump. He doesn’t seem to learn from his mistakes. Not only that but the rock ribbed immovable Trumpies don’t seem to care as long as they can in any way blame someone else and ignore Trump’s culpability.
Overturning Obamacare would have been a really big deal. It would have been part of Trump’s legacy that he could point to with pride. Instead the pride Trump cherishes most is his own vanity. Trump cares about what stokes his ego even if that means perpetual Democrat predominance.
I don’t give a fig about Trump’s “mean tweets”. “Mean tweets” is an accusation against him by the Left. I never hear that inane, puerile objection from Conservatives. Trumpies immediately pull out of their hats whenever someone shows the slightest disapproval of Trump on our side. As if ‘mean tweets’ really mattered.
One numbnutz on here told me that “He’s sorry if Trump offended me but that’s too bad”.
What offends me is when something we need done doesn’t get done because Trump in his unaccountable vanity one way or another screws the pooch for our side.
He’s done that regularly and if anything is increasing not decreasing it’s that aspect of his personality.
You of course go ahead and think what you will but for my part when someone will not openly and honestly discuss both Trump’s good and bad points then that makes them not an honest broker. In my view. YMMV
Excuses are like assholes, everybody’s got one. Trump has a lot. His Trumpie supporters have even more. Which makes him and them significantly more asshole than is good for America.
Believe it or not, I’m holding back here. What I really think of Trump and Trumpies is unprintable.
As for Youngkin, he would have made a great, not very threatening choice for VP. Just being from Virginia would have brought a lot of votes for the ticket from Virginia. Which would have further solidified the Red or at least deepened the Purple in a contested State.
Glen Youngkin is doing a great job in VA. (And so is W.E. Sears btw) He could have been groomed and prepared to run in 2028. With more time in the national spotlight and even a marginally successful final term by Trump he would have made a fantastic candidate with a solid shot at winning the White House.
But we can kiss that good by now.
How is this a winning strategy?
Agree completely on Sears. She will make an excellent gov. With the AG next could get a nice 12 year run in VA. If not as VP, I hope Youngkin takes a shot at either Warner or Kaine
Yeah, I like Winsome Earl-Sears a lot. The more I learn about her the more I like her.
It doesn’t hurt my opinion of her at all that she’s a Woman Marine. I’ve known a few WMs in my day. They have a different role than male Marines but it takes a lot of guts for a girl to join and serve a tour in the Marine Corps.
I know it’s probably too much to hope for but having Youngkin serve a term as governor then go on to VP or Congress, with Sears in the VA governor’s mansion, would be ideal for us.
She’s also no fan of Donald Trump and appears to view Trump and Trumpies in the same light I do.
Trumpies are messed* up. If the qualification for moving this nation into the future is unwavering support for Donald Trump no matter what. Then anyone who doesn’t drink that particular Kool-Ade is anathema, like Youngkin and Sears for instance, then really good, solid conservatives are not welcome. And that’s completely messed up.
The criteria is not what’s good for Trump and it’s not to give bragging rights to Trumpies.
*(I said “messed” up but I meant another word, starts with F and is two letters shorter.)
FUBAR still works!
Yep, he is making a mistake going after Desantis. Sometimes his ego overwhelms his sense of purpose. But you gotta admit some of those nicknames were priceless. AND some were just stupid. I’m sure calling Ted Cruz lyin’ Ted cost him some votes here in Texas where Ted is a hero.
BTW he is busy pointing at all the things you are emphasizing,k he just takes it a step further. Sometimes it seems he is arguing on too many fronts, and he has to simplify to a couple of core messages.
simplify to a couple of core messages
This ^10th power. I get that he has accumulated knowledge on many fronts. And if asked a specific question, he absolutely should respond. But I wish he would get back to what got him there.
Build the wall – now so many examples of why this was right for Americans.
Energy Independence – now so many examples of why this was right for Americans.
Economic Independence and Reliance at home- now so many examples of why this was right for Americans.
Reduction in the Federal Bureaucracy
Individualism vs Clanism – Stop pitting citizens against each other
Feel free to add your own.
It still comes to putting the lives and prosperity of American citizens first, and now he can show he was right to do so.
Keep it to 5 items and drive it home while showing why Biden and D’s in general are wrong. If he did this for the next 2 months, and did it effectively, DeSantis would likely not put his hat in the race.
Poke DeSantis in the eye enough times, and he probably will. Possibly to the detriment of both of them as only the stingers will get reported in the MSM.
This analysis Scott offers regarding the overlap between Conservative voters and Trump voters is very apt and accurate.
The thing about that is, I’m going to vote for whoever is best for America and that means voting Republican even though I do not call myself one. Voting for a Democrat candidate will be the greater of two evils for the foreseeable future.
I don’t see that changing in my lifetime though it would pleasantly surprise me if it did. Because if the Democrats are forced to give up their evil perfidy by losing votes that would mean our side is winning. No matter who gets elected. Like I said, I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
Whereas those who will only vote for Trump and will stay home if they don’t get their way do not truly have the best thing available for America in mind.
Those people are not patriots, they’re bewitched by glamour and charisma.
Glamour and charisma are political tools too. They’re shallow and vapid but they are also effective and useful.
I don’t mind the political combat of the primary process unless it gets petty and vile. We need to trot all those vulnerabilities out to sift through and find a viable candidate. We don’t want to find out in the last two weeks of October that OUR national candidate has some fatal flaw that makes him or her unelectable. The primary process brings all of those sorts of things to the forefront.
If things get petty and vile that’s another matter altogether as it applies to our side. I neither like nor respect that. If you think being a smartass and calling empty names makes someone a better choice for Leader of the Free World then I don’t like or respect you either.
Not because that person might or might not make a good President, in hindsight Donald Trump was a mostly good President and far better than the crop of RINO Presidents that preceded him. Though he could have done much better because he had the chance to and was not actually a real conservative in many ways.
I don’t like you because you’re basing your opinion and your vote on something as petty and shallow as smartassery and snarky ad hominem attacks. You might like that kind of thing and that tells us much about you, too.
Here again I’ll point to Ronald Reagan who served the maximum two terms consecutively, was extremely popular with patriotic Americans and did a lot of solid good for America. Ronald Reagan wasn’t a smartass or a snarky name caller. He didn’t need to be and wouldn’t have been even if he thought it would improve is political prospects. Reagan won on being Ronald Reagan and that was more than enough to get him two terms in office.
There are a lot of ‘tells’ that indicate truths about a person. I always said that, hideous harpy though she may be, if Bill Clinton’s wife couldn’t trust him then neither can the nation. I believe that is a true and accurate nutshell assessment of Bill Clinton’s character. Clinton rode the prosperity wave created by Reagan and benefited greatly by getting credit for the commercial application of new technology. Neither thing originated with Bill. Looking back I cannot recall one single thing Bill Clinton himself did that improved the conditions of average Americans or strengthened our position abroad with our allies and drove our enemies to greater caution.
Most of what I can recall about Bill Clinton’s tenure in office had the opposite to positive effects.
I don’t really care if there’s a little bloodletting during the primary elections. Honest debate and confrontation is a good thing and may the best person win.
I do care if that is the result of real things or someone being a smartass and a snark to appeal to low snarky people whom I don’t respect or like anyway. I have never liked people who think that bringing other people down somehow raises them up. I do not consider someone who stands on the bodies of good people to be admirable for doing that.
I don’t like people that think that’s an admirable trait in leadership either. In the national elections I’m willing to overlook that because the other side will certainly do it as much as they can. In the primaries that kind of thing has no place.
If you really want the American People to admire and desire the ideology our conservative side represents, that sort of thing is counter productive even if it results in a win. It just allows the Democrats to come back harder next time as we who have been looking have all seen.
Becoming Democrats in all but label is not going to win this nation back. It is surrendering to the enemy for a temporary win. The other side plays the long con, they love it when we do that and then they can focus all their fire on our own leadership and use the same deception, smartassed ‘zingers’ and snark they’re so good at.
Doing the same thing on our side makes for the same sort of people with the same mentality.
It’s all the same ol’ crap, different piles that came from the same horse.
I don’t know who I’m going to vote for in the primaries, yet. I do know who I’m not going to vote for and that’s Donald Trump.
If Donald Trump gets the nomination I’ll hold my nose and vote for him a third time. I’ll be ashamed that I had no option but to vote for that asshole. But I’ll still vote for him.
Some will say, and have said even here on this site, that all this makes me a “Never Trumper”. Which is absurd, I voted for the man twice and if I get no choice I’ll vote for him again. That’s what makes me different than those people who won’t vote for a conservative ticket unless Trump’s on it.
“Never Trumper’s” don’t do that. “Never Trumper’s” won’t vote for Donald Trump if that means burning the nation to the ground. Which makes them alarmingly indiscernible from Democrats. The very same principle applies to people who won’t vote for a Republican ticket unless Donald Trump is the head of it. They are the “Only Trumper” flip side of the same coin.
I’ve heard it, or rather read it, said that winning will somehow magically “vindicate Donald Trump”. The very idea is absurd. If winning the Presidency “vindicated” anyone then Joe Biden is equally vindicated and right in his abysmal occupation of that office.
I don’t care even a tiny bit if Donald Trump is ‘vindicated’. That’s a matter for Trump’s ego. His ego is as often as not contrary to what’s good for the United States of America.
I don’t care about Trump, I don’t like him personally even though I will certainly vote for him if he gets the nomination. I care about the good ol’ U.S. of A and what is best for my nation.
If what’s best means voting for Donald Trump with all his baggage and history then so be it. I’m not a Trump cultist, I’m an American. I’m going to do what I see to be the best for, or at least most limiting of damage to, my country.
If that isn’t your purpose too, pound sand. If you can’t put America ahead of any other factor in politics then win or lose you’re part of the problem not part of the solution.
Donald Trump won’t be around forever. He’s going to go to his reward, whatever that is, someday. The upcoming election will likely be his last campaign, if he runs and isn’t nominated, or runs and doesn’t win he’s a dead horse as far as getting elected goes. If he does win then this would be his second term and he’s limited by law from another term.
Either way, this is Donald Trump’s last hurrah.
So ask yourself, when Trump is gone are you still going to vote and vote conservative? If the answer is ‘yes’ then do that whether Trump is nominated or not. Put America ahead of petty personalities, this nation is a lot bigger and better than that. Unless you help it become smaller and worse.
Did you ever consider changing your nickname from “ACTS” to “TALKS”? … Much thrown out and very little said. Yes, before you get all offended and such- I’m often guilty of that myself – taking a lot of time to say very little- always easier to recognize my own faults in others. I consider myself a work in progress.
Well played sir 😀
I notice you didn’t object to any particular point I made, your objection is that I post more words than you think I ought to. I’m sorry, I must have missed the notice that put you in charge of other people’s freedom of speech.
If you have a problem with how many words I use to “say so little”, well …
No one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to read anything I have to say. No magical hand reaches out of your screen to click “read more”.
In fact, if you think I “use a lot of words to say very little” then you wouldn’t even know that had you not clicked “read more”.
So don’t.
If you don’t like what and how I say things then you have a clear option open to you that doesn’t involve telling anyone else what to do.
Don’t read my posts and if somehow the length of some of them causes you some sort of weird distress then by all means never click “read more”. Yours is a self inflicted wound.
Don’t insult my intelligence with this passive-aggressive pseudo “kind and constructive, I’m guilty of that too” bullshit. Just because you phrase your condescending smarmy “advice” in a passive-aggressive manner doesn’t mean I can’t see the insult.
Just don’t read what I post.
There, I solved your problem for you. You’re welcome.
That’s because arguing with you has proven to be pointless in the past, and you apparently don’t understand when people are poking fun at how seriously you take yourself. 😉
No one is making you read anything I say either.
I do understand when people are poking fun at me and my lengthy posts. Ron, Harry and many others have done so in the past and we’ve all had a laugh at it. That’s not the same thing as being intentionally insulting. You apparently don’t understand that you get as good as you give.
As for taking myself too seriously, antonyms of “serious” are:
Deceptive, insincere, flippant, unimportant, dishonest, misleading, false, untrustworthy, unserious, trivial and etc.
Since you describe me as taking myself too seriously then those words must describe you.
I can be argued with though I’ll grant it’s not an easy task. If it was easy then it’s also unserious. I can’t be argued with by deceptive, insincere, flippant, unimportant, dishonest, misleading, false, untrustworthy, unserious, trivial people.
Argue with that all you like. Or not. Your call.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……… Sorry, I must have dozed off. What were you saying? Oh right. Something about how smart you are and how hard it is to argue with you. Ok then, case in point. Sounds about like the last time we talked when you tried to pull the “I’m smarter than you because I work in IT” card. *yawn*
YYSSW, I don’t recall saying that to you, go ahead and tell me what and where so I can find that. If that’s what I said. Which I doubt because I don’t think working in a field makes anyone “smarter than other people” any more than I think owning a Harley Davidson makes a person tough or buying a grand piano makes them a concert pianist. Though it’s likely how you took it. You tend to doze off a lot and being unserious miss things often.
That short enough for you?
Much better, thank you!
Since you asked:
https://billwhittlecom.wpenginepowered.com/d-is-for-dungeon-final-cut/#comment-59033
By the way, you know that this website has a blog section that you can post to right? You could be posting your 3000 word essays there instead of the comments section.
(I don’t care if you don’t like the length of this post, I’m happy to let anyone who is interested click on the link you supplied are read the whole conversation. I’m including context which you did not …)
LOL!!! That wasn’t me telling you I’m “smarter than you because I work in IT”, that was me telling you that if you want the full benefit of my skills and experience then you have to pay for it. Which I KNEW you would not do.
I wasn’t bragging, I was blowing you off. Which apparently you’re not smart enough to realize and got all butthurt about.
Not only that, I TOLD YOU I WAS DOING THAT IN MY VERY NEXT REPLY TO YOU.
ME:
To which YOU replied …
I thought we were having a friendly jibe with each other. Apparently not because here you are all butthurt and whining.
What do you care where I post anything? How is that any of YOUR business? My comments are no longer than anyone else’s until you click “read more”.
So don’t.
Any reasonable person would just ignore me if they don’t like what I say and/or how I say it. The fact that this conversation has even gone on this long and that you had to pull things out of context to make a point that wasn’t valid leaves much doubt about your reasonableness.
You have no complaint and I’m not going to change anything I do because you want me to. So sue me.
Go ahead and “zzzzzzzzzzzzzz” my reply so we can all see more examples of how petty you can be. This is just getting silly now so have your say if you like. If it continues to be silly I’ll probably follow my own advice and just start to ignore you.
*(I’ll be happy to explain how “son” vs. “sen” behind a sire name like “Lars”, “Jens” or “Olaf” etc. denotes the difference between a Lesser and a Greater Scandinavian.)
Aw darn, your response was cut off right at “you’re not smart enough to…”. by the “read more” button. I guess I’ll have to stop reading your toxicity there.
If anyone else is really interested enough to read the entire thread (doubtful), they’ll notice the part where a quick internet search completely debunked the IT point that you were so sure of originally. Kinda seems like paying for the full benefit of your skills and experience would be a poor financial decision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Yeah, like I said, more silliness. Oh, that’s right, you didn’t read that part. My bad. Here’s a clue for you Sherlock …
If you say something to someone and don’t bother to read their reply, that you asked for by addressing them, and then reply to them without attention to what they said … Then that’s silly. Too.
As is puerile insults.
But Watson, I thought I wasn’t required to read past the “read more” button!
Whatever you say, Sparky.
lol
Do you ever really say anything, or do you just tread words? Typically, I see a single point from you that could have been said in a single sentence surrounded by several paragraphs of filler material. And, yes, I have often made the mistake of clicking the “read more” button. My fault, and time I will never regain for more productive endeavors.
Guilty as charged your honor.
Good for you, Sport. That’s the reasonable thing to do. Telling other people what or how they can say something is unreasonable so we’re getting somewhere.
Hurray for you. (Waving tiny little cocktail flag.)
And for the record- you only made ONE point. And then you carried on about how many ways your one point was correct.
It’s like saying “I’m not being condescending here. Condescending means having to explain things to you because you just don’t understand things as well as I do.”
I like irony.
Hehe, I’m going to have to remember that one. That’s funny
I now (too late) recall the words of Mark Twain. Never argue with stupid people, for they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
(Just to help you out, I’ll make a point of pointing to my individual points in this reply.)
POINT -> Yeah, that’s called “amplification”. Making a point then amplifying on why that point is valid.
POINT-> The alternative is to make a naked declaration. To aver as fact without support means nothing. AMPLIFICATION-> It’s just a statement. Like saying “Water isn’t wet”. If that’s what you think then you have to support your reasons for thinking that.
RELATED POINT AMPLIFIED-> If you make a statement without supporting it then it doesn’t really mean anything. CONCLUSION-> It’s just an unsupported opinion.
RESPONSE TO YOU-> I actually thought YOU might have a point so I went back and read what I posted to see if that might be the case.
POINT-> That’s me being reasonable.
POINT-> I quit counting at 5 separate points which was less than halfway through my post. AMPLIFICATION-> If you can’t see them, say so and I’ll post a copy and paste of each of them. In the same format I’m using in this post so you can understand because now I’m just holding your hand. CONCLUSION-> That you didn’t see those points, or refuse to acknowledge that they were made is a personal problem of your own I can’t help you with.
POINT-> Other people DO seem to ‘get it’ so I’m not going to cater to your individual whims.
POINT-> If you take what I say as condescension then that it your personal problem not mine. AMPLIFICATION-> This is true because condescension is not my goal and — There are other people here who want to understand my arguments and have thanked me for making them in detail.
POINT-> Your opinion then is clearly not universal. It’s simply your opinion.
POINT-> You want me to make shorter posts with less supporting arguments because … CONCLUSION-> I have no idea being as you don’t have to read anything I have to say.
POINT-> Somehow that offends you for some reason I can’t imagine.
POINT AND CONCLUSION-> If I won’t do what you want you’ll try to belittle me for it.
POINT-> This is your own personal form of cancel culture. I won’t do what you want so you think that gives you some justification for trying to belittle me. CONCLUSION-> It does not.
I get it.
POINT-> I don’t care what you want. CONCLUSION-> What you want is irrelevant.
FINAL POINT-> I pay my membership dues here same as you. I don’t tell you what or how to say anything at all and never have. There have been no complaints so far from the site operators to me about what I say and how I choose to say it. Being as you have the simple option of passing by what I say that seems to irritate you, I’m not the one being unreasonable or overstepping his authority.
I did not read any of what you wrote. I have only one simple response- the same used with schoolyard bullies across the nation.
UNCLE!
(Shrug) You picked this fight so that makes you the ‘schoolyard bully’, I wasn’t doing a damn thing to you. Your little pal Nathan Larson fits the roll of your unctuous toady pretty well too. Hey, I have an idea …
How about you mind your own business and I’ll mind my own business and we don’t have to have this kind of drek in a public forum?
OK, that Abraham Lincoln inauguration comment made me laugh out loud, which caused people to check on me.
Sorry, but I was stationed in South Carolina during much of her time in office. Not impressed. “Benign neglect” would be the kindest way to put it.
I liked her as ambassador, but she’s proven that she’s not the right choice for Chief Executive.
Good to know… Although I think I’d take benign neglect over whatever it is we have now if forced to chose
Absolutely. I won’t back her in the primary, but if she’s our standard bearer, then I’ll vote for her.
I’m still in shock that we people of the United States elected an addled, obviously impaired Biden over a President in Trump that accomplished so much in only one term. ?Just because of dislike of his tweets? ?His threat to the “Deep State”?? His pugnaciousness?
I’m still not sure we elected him, but that aside, you are right. However, I stll have a standing challenge for ANYBODY to show me ONE mean tweet. He stated a lot of truths, and if that truth hurt, so be it.
I also read something recently stating that Biden had accomplished very little. I disagree. He has accomplished a lot. All bad. A wrecking ball also does a lot very quickly.
Sorry to be the wet blanket here, but the Democrats have already won the 2024 election, regardless of who either party runs. We know what happened in 2020, and where are the massive efforts by Republicans to ensure it never happens again? Crickets. The Dems, on the other hand, have been “fortifying” their election strategies in several states. They have already “won” WI, PA, AZ, VA, and MI thanks to the efforts by Dem leaders in each state. They ran a dementia patient out of his basement, and he miraculously had the more votes counted for him than any candidate in history. Expect them to win 101% of the vote in some of the deep blue districts.
And no, I’m not giving up altogether. I have a lot more to say in a blog post I’m working on, but wanted to throw in my two cents on this thread
Crickets are what you get if you don’t get elected so that you can exercise power to correct voter fraud issues.
I understand your pessimism and I think you’re justified in that.
There have been efforts at the State level to deal with this sort of problem, you just don’t hear much about them because the media is collaborating with the other side.
The State level is where this sort of thing has to happen and news related to this in the various States rarely if ever makes national news. Unless the Democrats mount a campaign to slur and slander those efforts. Then you hear a lot about it briefly. All from the Democrat’s point of view. Then if the Democrats lose all that drops down a memory hole and you never hear the result when those efforts are successful.
It remains to be seen what effect anti-voter fraud measures will have. There is definitely cause for concern but I don’t think the fat lady has sung quite yet.
I hope Trump will not run. But will vote for him if he is the nominee. But I will not vote for him in the prumary.
Reasons: He will motivate Democratic turnout.
He is being attacked on several legal fronts. Thus he will not be able to give his all.
His comments about “suspending” the Constitution. Big one there. Either the Constitution has remedies about voting fraud and cheating or it does not. Tried to find if it does. Search failed, and I don’t have time to read the whole thing.
I think having the election stolen from him changed him, and not in a good way.
That said, he’s still my guy for 2024. Not because of anything he did or said, but because I think our Republic needs to have him specifically back in office as a resounding condemnation of Crossfire Hurricane, Impeachment I, Impeachment II, all of the corruption surrounding the 1/6 witch hunt, and FileGate.
I want to see him, in the inauguration speech, say “and I’d like to thank Nancy Pelosi, Jarred Nadler, Elaine Luria, Kamala Harris, and Joe Biden. I wouldn’t be here without all of your hard work.”
Then I’d like to see him resign and hand it over to Tim Scott.
I’d go for that.
But don’t see him as the type to resign.
I think that Cheney will run and Trump is getting others with foreign policy credentials to run so its 4 on one and Trump can leave the take down of the Cheney war lobby to others. Pompeo, Haley have those credentials. With Trump the big front runner then the primary has to be about the remaining policy disagreements in the party. Most of that is electoral law, but the battle lines are already set and that’s a state by state battle. So the real battle line will be foreign policy and there is little difference between Trump, Pompeo, Haley and a lot of difference between those three and Cheney. Tim Scott is genuinely running but is, I suspect, looking to counter balance Kamala Harris. Only he can do that. He needs to run as a candidate to set that up but he does not need to win.
It’s simple. State your beliefs, suggest what you’d like to accomplish. No need to say anything negative about your Republican opponents. Save your negative stuff for the ones who deserve it – the current administration..
Yep. Unfortunately, DJT, while somewhat round <wink/>, does not roll that way. If he did, he’d be less divisive within the GOP.
Candidates like Donald Trump are primarily a cult of personality revolving around an enormous ego. Our country is worse for the plethora of such people both in and running for high office. This is why DJT is such a divisive candidate. The rabid Trump supporter reminds me of the child declaring he’s taking his toys (i.e., ballot and pen) home if he doesn’t get his way. This is a sad state of affairs for American politics, because it will once again allow the election of a Dem to POTUS if DJT does not receive the nomination for the GOP.
Don’t mistake my dislike for DJT the Candidate as an indication I will not vote for him. I will once again do so if he gets the nomination; however, I will likely not vote for him in any primary unless he’s the only raasonable option.
Well, here’s one Republican who does not regard DJT as a reasonable option under any circumstances. He will vigorously motivate Democrat turnout, and he only has four more potential years in the White House. Thank God for the conservative Supreme Court, but enough of DJT is enough.
Well, when I wrote “raasonable option” [sic], I was comparing to possibilities like Romney, who (IMO) has always been a mealy-mouthed RINO. At least DJT’s foreign and federal regulation-reduction policies were more to my liking.
So I must ask … does your aversion to DJT cause you to not vote for a POTUS if DJT is the nominee, and essentially increase the vote count ratio in favor of the Dem? That is one circumstance we may once again face as GOP voters, and I would consider it to be worse than any negative of DJT.
I dread the likelihood that without ranked choice voting DJT is likely to win pluralities and be nominated again. I live in a county that was moderate Republican not long ago. The most politically involved voters here feel a visceral revulsion for DJT. I am not in that camp, but I cannot vote for him despite the negative consequences.
Have you considered the fact that not voting for any Republican candidate in the national elections is a vote for the opposition?
I don’t like Trump as a person at all but I don’t think the case can be made that his administration was less preferable to what we have now.
If Trump gets the nomination and you don’t vote for him not only does he not receive a ‘plus’ from your vote, your not voting then becomes the equivalent of a double vote for the Democrat opposing him.
Because he doesn’t get your vote and your vote does not then cancel out a Democrat vote to create a neutral, a ‘wash’ of net zero. That makes that Democrat vote twice as potent as it would have been had you voted.
Mostly the choice when voting is a matter of the lesser of two evils. If you’d rather have the greater evil then don’t vote. But don’t complain about it if we get that greater evil either. You, by not voting, did not do everything in your power to thwart that greater evil.
I know that stinks but it’s reality.
I don’t like Trump myself, as I have made very clear. I like Joe Biden far, far less.