This is in response to a number of the past week or so’s MB2A videos:
While I think Bill is spot on that we need to have people running for local office to get the voting laws under control, there is another job that needs doing at the same time, that I believe he has missed in his focus on local elections, to get the voting laws changed at the local level. That job is the poll worker. Without the poll worker, those local offices may not get filled by the people who actually won the election.
We need honest, dedicated people in the polling locations on Election Day (season? how long does a poll worker have to work these days? I honestly don’t know)– not as observers, but as the people actually checking the signatures, IDs, and counting the votes. This is not to discount the roll of the observers, but if every precinct had honest poll workers doing the counting, the observers would not have been thrown out of the polling locations.
If we had honest poll workers, then magic votes appearing out of nowhere with no chain of custody would not have been counted, they would have been reported as a problem.
In some regards, I think this job is harder and more dangerous than that of an office-holder. If I, as a poll worker, see something untoward and report it, given the current political climate, I’m likely to be doxxed, threatened, and see my family threatened. Protesters may show up at my house and throw bricks through my windows. It requires a different type of bravery than that Bill spoke of recently about needing to start your campaign with the press conference where you come clean on all of your skeletons, because skeletons or not, you may be threatened with your life if you stand up against any irregularities in the vote count that you see.
Please, correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think you can hold political office and be a poll worker– I think that’s a conflict of interest. I looked up how to be a poll worker in my county and they currently aren’t accepting applications and don’t display any requirements, but I will keep checking.
I know Bill might well argue the point that I need to run anyway if I say that I don’t see myself in public office, but if I can’t be in office and be a poll worker anyway, I’m going to at the very least step up to be a poll worker in my county this next election. It will cost me vacation time at a minimum and may cost me much more (some of which I outline above), and it’s not something I really want to do. But I can sacrifice this much.
The unanswered question for me, and I hope Bill will address it at some point in his MB2A series, is how to get poll workers and local politicians in the problem areas. I’m in a pretty solidly red state (UT) although my county is bluer. But how do we get people to run in places like Philadelphia or Detroit where we know the problems are and we probably don’t have any members on this site? Getting elected or being a poll worker in a place like Kootenai County isn’t going to be as helpful as doing so in Philly.
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There’s a missing piece to the puzzle that needs to be added. We need lawyers on call and ready to move with judges on speed dial willing to put out emergency court orders. If you are poll watcher being forced to leave or if you observe something that clearly violates the law, you have to be able to take immediate action. That means getting a lawyer to put the case to a judge to get a court order halting the process. Those poll observers in Detroit that were infamously kicked out in the video we’ve all seen might have have reversed the situation if they could have produced a court order demanding it. They didn’t have lawyers and judges at the ready. They should have. At a minimum whatever was going on would have been in public view and maybe some fraud prevented.
Thank you for stepping up. We’ve got one such member here from, as you politely put it, a problem area – me. The problem of those problem areas is SO bad, I’m not sure it’s fixable, certainly not with a few poll watchers. Likely in the short term it would be more effective to study exactly how the pros execute their corruption in the rotten flesh to limit its impact the nation’s still-healthy tissue.
At the time of the 2009 inauguration, I was working on the road with people from all over the country. I told them, “Well, you’ve all just moved to Chicago.” When they asked what that meant, I replied, “You’ll see.”
It took awhile to become evident, but now, here we are. People who come from honest areas of the country don’t have reason to develop much of a nose for political corruption. I don’t believe that they comprehend that using the power and instrumentalities of government to punish your enemies and reward your friends isn’t a potential fringe benefit for the tempted, IT’S THE POINT OF THE EXERCISE FOR THE DETERMINED.
Every point of evidence that emerged revealed the rot gradually festering beneath: Fast and Furious, the IRS silencing tea party groups, the FBI political targeting, the special counsel, and impeachment, etc. at the federal level and the installation of fellow-traveler judges, Secs of State, Election Officials, and Prosecutors at the state and county levels.
The story of Cook County, IL’s (in which Chicago is located) pioneering approval of Dominion Voting Systems’ Democracy 5.5 system is a case in point: “On Tuesday, Election Systems & Software filed a lawsuit against the county and the office of its chief procurement officer, claiming that Dominion’s “proposed voting system was not compliant with Illinois law, and likewise could not meet the requirements of the [request for proposals], because it had not been certified by the Illinois State Board of Elections.” https://chicago.suntimes.com/2018/9/26/18427977/county-approves-new-election-equipment-contract-despite-rival-firm-s-lawsuit
Pamela Geller dug though ES&S’ court complaints and provides further details: “While ES&S was properly protesting (three times) the validity and process, Cook County/David Orr was still proceeding…
“there was no comparative expert RFP bidders’ evaluation of the multiple prominent bidders ES&S, Hart etc…
“Dominion was chosen July 7, 2017, which was the ‘deadline’ for all to submit RFPs, and it appears that DVS already progressing prior to deadline…
“Cook County chose DVS, an uncertified vendor, as ES&S alleges in their Complaint. The timeline that appears on EAC’s data site shows that Dominion had a very difficult time with their new Democracy 5.5 system, finally getting EAC conformance (contingent) 10/2018…
“Dominion, with their “We got Chicago!” bragging rights, went to Georgia, Maricopa, Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Michigan – who now have the Dominion 5.5 program. This is not coincidence.” [Emphasis mine.] https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/corrupt-chicago-dominion-dem-socialist-david-orr-illegally-gave-dominion-32-million-contract-breaking-state-rules.html/
This is a very astute point. Much of the fraud was, in my opinion, actually performed by or at least supported by the poll workers and supervisory personnel. My goodness, we lock up and track everything but our votes? I am interested in looking into my districts poll workers selection, might be a good place to get my feet wet in political arena.
Also, your question about how to address blue strongholds, think of Rep Omar’s district of refugees and how its a ballot harvesting hub. Honestly, that is probably going to be a much larger issue moving forward, now that all elections will be subject to open fraud with no recourse for redress. The last line of redress, the legal system, has been completely infected and complicit.
Tell me how the Supreme Court ruled against the State of Texas based upon the idea that they have no “Standing”. Standing refers to no actual legal issue/concerns in the case, such as a bystander watching a car accident, suing an insurance company, when they weren’t even in the accident. They, the bystander, has no “Standing” in that case. The election of the President of the US is and will legally effecting Texas, so how can this not be of “Standing”.
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Just a follow up, I researched my states Board of Electors. The issue became very evident, that this information is some kind of state secret.
Here is what I found directly linking to this my actual request.
“About The State Election Board
Established under the Constitution of the State of Oklahoma in 1907, the Oklahoma State Election Board is the administrative agency for the conduct of state elections and the oversight of the state’s 77 county election boards.
Contact The State Election BoardOKLAHOMA STATE ELECTION BOARD
Physical Address:
2300 N Lincoln Blvd, Room G28
State Capitol Building
Oklahoma City, OK 73105
Mailing Address:
PO Box 53156
Oklahoma City, OK 73152-3156
Telephone: 405-521-2391
Fax: 405-521-6457
Last Modified on Jan 13, 2021″ https://oklahoma.gov/elections.html
No actual names or whom appoints them or their job requirements, nor names. If you are not openly sharing the names and rules for this, what or whom are you covering up. Transparency in civil servants is expected.
Yes, I understand that with enough research, I can and will locate the information.
I am just wondering why it is so lacking in user(voter) friendliness. It has been amazing looking into this subject and realize the actual vote is almost unimportant if you control the system.
Once again great topic, I mean rabbit hole….
I think Bill’s focus is on fixing the structural issues with the voting process, cleaning out the poll worker rolls of activists will be part of any plan, but most are already temp workers and only have the jobs for a limited time. The career election officials are where the corruption is mostly not necessarily the temp workers. Bill is ensuring that the ones hiring these poll workers are not also activists and that the rules for fair and honest election are enforced.
A perhaps semantic point, but I do not want an electoral process that relies on ‘honest poll workers’. I want the process to be such that the most corrupt, partisan, criminal SoB election official gives the correct election result because there is no room in the process to get away with election fraud.
A good end-goal, but that isn’t going to happen this year, and stepping up to be a poll worker myself is a good first step, I think.
absolutely, good for you.
The system counts on “honest” poll workers as in looking for their candidate’s interest. They don’t need to be angelic and look for the other candidates too or not try to shift for their side if the others allow it.
Yeah, the system does not work if the workers work for the other side, or in general when a party works against its own candidate. I don’t think you can create a reasonable system that would work having that.