Viv·i·sec·tion: the practice of performing operations on live animals for the purpose of experimentation. Since the late 1800’s there has been a strong moral protest against surgeries targeting healthy tissue of living animals. It was known as the anti-vivisectionist movement, and was in large part responsible for organizations like the SPCA and laws against animal cruelty. Ask a progressive if they are opposed to surgically dissecting living animals and they will be appalled. Apparently, however, when the test subjects are teenage girls then that is to be CELEBRATED.
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First step is the lawsuit, then go after their licenses. Liability insurance will be paying BIG TIME if lawsuit is successful.
It is ABOUT TIME the lawsuits are unfolding.
I read that the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics both support “gender-affirming care”. How gender dysphoria is not immediately recognized as mental illness is beyond me. A person can no more change sexes than they can change species. And anyone allowing a child to enter into this nightmare should be arrested for child abuse.
It all seems to come down to money — children who transition are permanent cash cows for the medical providers. I look forward to the day this nonsense ends.
I’m with you on not being able to understand how a mental condition; where you feel (or have been groomed to feel) so out-of-touch with yourself/your body that you “choose” to be irreversibly sterilized as a SCHOOLKID; isn’t actually a mental condition but a cause for celebration so obvious that the state offers to take your kids away from you if you don’t “celebrate’ properly. That “health care professionals” (first, DO NO HARM) can push this directly onto very young children…
is entirely beyond me.
Until I remembered how much money the “health care community” gets out of it. It was NEVER about the children, but the bottom line.
Dr. Mengal and Dr. Fauci marching in lockstep to the narrative of the radical left, anti-American, demonic perversion of sanity corps!
Has the term “Medical Ethics” joined the pantheon of famous oxymorons like “Jumbo Shrimp” and “Military Intelligence”?
Of course the term “Medical Ethics” is an oxymoron anymore. This was made apparent when variations of the following statement were heard by employees nationwide:
“Take the COVID jab or lose your job.”
That sort of government and corporate extortion in collusion with medical providers and physicians is tantamount to rape. The millions of us who complied to stay employed were, in fact, victims of rape, which was a forced penetration against our individual wills.
If that scenario does not smack of all that is unethical and immoral, I don’t know what does.
Gender is a grammatical thing. Sex is a biological thing. In high school biology they taught there were two sexes. In high school Latin I learned the genders are masculine, feminine, and neuter.
A good start would be to stop referring to the sexes as genders. We shouldn’t play the other side’s word games.
This whole gender identity thing is very disturbing to a normal mind.
Bill made a great point about the accepted age of consent. Think about it. In most states we can’t legally drink alcohol until we’re 18, can’t legally get married until we’re 18, can’t legally be a soldier until we’re 18, can’t legally sign a legal contract until we’re 18…But we can consent to be mutilated before we’re 18…? As Bill alluded to, may the perpetrators burn in hell.
Remember back when Hideous HIllary was flapping her saggy hog jowls about —
“It takes a community to raise a child.”
?
Well it doesn’t take a community, it takes parents. The better those parents are at parenting, the better the child will turn out as an adult. There are recalcitrant children that this doesn’t apply to but that’s an exception that proves the rule.
Parents make all the primary decisions, parents set examples (hopefully positive) for their children, parents are the prime influence in child rearing.
Parents may avail themselves of resources available because of the community but it is not the actual community that is raising any given child. Such nonsense only occurs in fiction like Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World”.
This abominable vivisection issue is because some manure pile of nematodes-for-brains thought “community” would be better at raising children than parents. Some poor excuses for parents were all to willing to abdicate responsibility to the “community”. Thus relieving themselves of the strain and stress of raising of their own offspring. Most of us didn’t fall for this hogspit but those that did are every bit as at fault as the “community” that they put into power by listening to Hillary Goebbels Von Kankles and her Merry Band of Wannabe Tyrants.
Like so many things, this boils down to terrible parenting. I agree with The Guys that the surgeon who did the actual cutting should go to jail but … So should the parents who signed on the dotted line of a consent form. It’s up to you to make the final, best decision when it comes to your own kids. I’m fairly certain that no one reading my words on this page would have signed such a document.
OF COURSE a community is not going to make the right decisions for your child. The community has other motivations than you do for the decisions being made. If your own motivations are the correct ones you put your child ahead of fads, social pressure, delusions about reality and the greed of others who have more power than you do. You love your children and no matter what they say “the community” does not.
Your child has value to you because he/she is your child. This applies to both natural biological children and adopted children. Maybe even more so for the adopted kids because someone really has to want them to get them.
Your child has value to the community only as an asset to be manipulated in whatever manner the community deems best in its short-sighted vision.
So surprise, surprise! Hildabeast Megaswine and her “community” have decided that chopping healthy parts off of their community assets is useful to their purposes.
Like all the other really stupid ideas of the Leftists, Democrats and Leftist Democrats, this is eventually going to collapse in on itself. Lawsuits and unavoidable press coverage is going to expose what’s really going on and only the mentally very sick puppies are going to support that crap once “gender affirmation” is exposed for the butchery of living kids that it actually is.
The only real question is — “How many lives are going to be destroyed before this lunacy comes to a screeching halt?”
Personally I would like to see some sort of a Foundation created by people with the means to do so. A Foundation to hunt down the victims of the “gender” scalpel and needle, ask them if they’re miserable enough to sue, then provide them with the means to do so. With every win in court some of the damage award can be funneled back into the organization to perpetuate this campaign until it’s no longer an issue.
Because the sooner we put a halt to this, the fewer lives will be devastated by it.
One of the more disturbing parts of this story is that the parents were blackmailed into consenting for the surgery with threats of suicide coming from the doctors not their daughter. Most parents are willing to do anything to save the life of their child and too many people think the medical community, ie, doctors, are infallible and would never lead them astray. Having worked in the medical world for over 35 years I can assure you that doctors are just people and people do not always have the best interests of those there serve as their foremost motivators.
I’ve seen some gawd-awful stuff done by people in the medical profession too. One of my best friends (until he died) was a Doctor of many, many years experience. I’ve been gravely injured several times in my life. Injuries that required hospital stays and protracted periods of recovery and therapy. So like you, I have perhaps some insights in the field that others don’t have.
My mother held doctors in a near God-like esteem. I respect education and intelligence and doctors met that bar back when education and intelligence were job requirements for doctors. Even then, as you say, doctors are just people too.
But …
You can’t be talked into something that you’re not predisposed to agree with anyway. (Car salesmen HATE me with a passion.) Blackmailing parents into consenting to have their kids butchered is absolutely despicable however the parents are clearly not absolved of their responsibility as parents just because a doctor does that.
Thankfully I never had this particular problem but if one of my kids had come to me with some cockamamy story about being the wrong “gender” I would have taken them seriously. I would seriously have tried to get them some help, I would not have taken their claims to be in the ‘wrong body’ seriously. Something like that is a red flag that your child needs help that you probably can’t give them.
Had something like that happened I promise you most sincerely that the first doctor who told me he needed to hack up my kid and screw him up for life or he’d commit suicide would have triggered my bullshit detector big-time.
People want to believe what they want to believe. The same people who are consenting to having their kids lives destroyed are the people who think Joe Biden is mentally competent, that ANTIFA is not a fascist organization and that Black Lives Matter is helping black people. Etc.
That they are also bad parents is no surprise.
Those people deserve what they get. Their kids do not.
I suggest that this is NOT a general rule. The parents can be victims of circumstances and extortion as well as the children. Consider the fear associated with the threat that “Child Protective Services” (or whatever it’s called in your area; it’s Children and Youth & Families here) will steal — yes, STEAL — the children from the parents under some pretense of abuse or neglect. I know that that was fear my wife and I experienced when the jack-holes from CYFD appeared upon our doorstep, because some local Karen provided an anonymous “tip” of negligence based solely upon the fact that two of our small children at the time had the audacity to ride their trikes on the sidewalk in front of our house. We live in a small town, so abduction risk by strangers is small.
The parent-doctor scenario is little different. The parents are threatened by the “authorities” that the children will be taken either by suicide or by the authoritarian State. Not all parents are in a position to fight such abuses of power, so that makes them victims like the children.
Do I think that either your premise or my alternative are the general rules? No, but each situation must be judged individually.
Yeah, I don’t live in Kalifornia anymore and never raised any kids there so that’s something among many things I’m hugely grateful for.
One of my kids in a fit of pique over an argument where we were butting heads about something — I don’t even remember what it was — tried to pull the “CPS card” on me. “CPS” = Child Protective Services BTW. At that time the kid was 15 or 16 years old.
He said that my refusal to let him do whateverthefrack it was amounted to “child abuse” and he might have to consider alerting the authorities. Or sentiments to that effect.
I told him that if he did that and if I was going to go to jail for something I was gonna beat the crap out of him so the charge would at least be legitimate. I told him I was fairly certain I’d be out of jail before he was out of the hospital.
I explained that putting me in that sort of situation meant I had nothing to lose and might as well deserve whatever came next.
Then I asked him “Before we go any further, are you absolutely, positively certain that you want to put me in a position with nothing to lose?”
He’s a pretty bright kid so all-of-a-sudden he started to see things my way. It turned out that this wasn’t exactly an original idea with him. One of his friends pulled that crap on their parents and it worked. That kid got his way without ever actually involving CPS. My kid did not get his way.
Before I say anything else, I don’t beat on family members but my boys had seen me stick up for/defend myself and others and so had seen me in a no-shit fight more than once. I had two boys to raise and between them they got exactly three close acquaintances with my belt when they were growing up. The youngest learned his lesson the first time and the oldest took two times for the lesson to stick.
I don’t want this anecdote to sound like I beat up on my kids all the time, I did not. In this case my kid knew I was serious because I’m a serious kind of Dad, not because I’d beat the tar out of him at some earlier point.
The reason I’m telling this story is because I don’t care what threats someone makes. I’m damned hard to intimidate or coerce. If you tell ME my kid is going to commit suicide if I don’t let you chop body parts off of him, I’m not buying it and I’m going to go look for help somewhere else. If you threaten to call CPS then you’d better make good on your threat and we’ll just have to dance, legally or otherwise.
I’d stand in front of bullet for my kids, CPS doesn’t scare me.
If I’d do that then there’s nothing more drastic than a bullet anyone can do to me.
As you say, generalizations are suspect and each case depends on the individual. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s the choices made by the individual parent(s) that matters. Parents that allow themselves to be cowed and coerced by threats, even real threats, rather than do the right thing by their kids are absolutely responsible for what happens. Every time a parent does that, the world gets a little bit worse.
If a parent buckles under to threats and allows their kid to be destroyed by butchers, that’s an act of cowardice. Cowardliness is not an excuse, at least not in the way I see things.
In your instance where some Karen called CPS on you, that was an act of cowardice by the Karen who made the call. This is the problem with cowards and cowardice, America would do well to have fewer cowards.
The fact that someone calls CPS on you doesn’t mean you’re automatically going to have your children taken from you by the State. CPS has to follow up on all calls because if they didn’t and missed a dangerous case of actual abuse then a kid might die. So they have to look into any complaints they get. You didn’t say they took your kids so I’m assuming that when you explained the situation to them they backed off.
It’s despicable that doctors would lie to parents about their kids being likely to commit suicide. That’s on the doctor’s heads. It’s despicable that someone would call CPS and the State take action against a parent because the parent refused to let the butchers have their way. That’s on the head(s) of whoever makes that call to CPS and the State for empowering that sort of thing.
The last line of defence for your kid is you. It’s also despicable if you bow to that sort of pressure and just let the butchers chop up your child. Everyone in the process has an agenda. If you’re avoiding trouble and go putting your faith in people who do not have your child’s best interests at heart then that is cowardice and you have failed your child. If avoiding trouble is more important to you than standing between your children and those who would destroy them then you should not have kids because you’re a terrible parent. Avoiding trouble and buckling to threats is no excuse under any circumstances.
No one else is responsible for your choice but you. They might push you towards that and they might even hurt you if you refuse but it’s your choice to let them win and you’re responsible for making that choice. In all cases, no matter what pressures are brought to bear on you.
If you let someone destroy your children and then just wring your hands and sob about how they made you allow that, you’re either a coward or you agree with the destruction of your children in the first place. In either case, you have failed your children.
If someone puts a gun to my head and tells me I can either let my kid get chopped up or they’ll shoot me … They’re going to have to shoot. This is not a matter of individual cases, it’s a universal truth about being a parent.
When I was growing up I was taught that my fealty is owed to God, Family and Country. In that order. These allegiances are a matter of immutable debt and cannot be abrogated at convenience. They are absolutes. I taught the same to my kids. These are not loyalties that are negotiable and sound noble but can be ignored if the going gets tough. These are things that any right minded person is willing to die for rather than abandon.
In that framework, God and Family trump the State. This framework is what makes the State something worthy of the allegiance of good people. I don’t owe the State allegiance because it demands it, I owe the State allegiance because it’s worthy of my allegiance. If the State fails to be worthy it forfeits that allegiance.
In this case God says “Train up your children in the way they should go and when they are old they will not depart from it”. The butchery of kids is not a way they should go. Family obviously includes your children. I would absolutely die or suffer anything short of death before I would consent to let my kids be harmed.
So the State can just suck up and bust. The State doesn’t scare me when I know I’m in the right. The State should be scared of me and people like me when it’s in the wrong.
I looked it up. No state allows a person under 18 to get a tattoo without adult permission. And they can be removed or be lightened a lot. So not as permanent as surgery. Even hormone control has permanent effects on many cases. Bill’s point about statutory rape also applies. And yet, California is trying to forbid parents from their children getting “Gender affirming care”. Insanity.
And let’s be honest. Evil. And hysterectomy on young girls? Why that fits the narrative that people are bad for the planet. No or fewer woman to get pregnant, no or fewer people. Failing that, there is always abortion. Which is a “sacrament” under Satanism. Failing that, there is always child sacrifice. I would not be surprised if someone supported that. Failing that, there is the murder pits in Democratically controlled cites.
See a plan here?
CA has actually made the law official, and it will take effect in January 2024. See my previous comment below.
Wasn’t sure they already did it. But i knew they would. Fits the evil CA mindset.
Bit of a “friend of a friend” story, but I remember a conversation about this stuff with a work colleague about five years ago. He told me of a friend of his who worked for an insurance company that insured a couple of clinics that carry out this sort of butchery here in the UK. They were desperately trying to unload those contracts on other firms as hey could see the legal train wreck further down the track.
Hit them where it hurts…… The pocketbook.
And I am glad to see you. You haven’t posted on a while. Welcome back.
Many thanks Harry. Having to a do a “proper” job in the post covid world has left me with little time and less energy. I hope to be posting more in future though.
Trust me, I can identify. With my current job, a quirky 140+ year old Victorian house in need of repair, 4 rescue dogs, one with only 3 legs and showing his age (13), a wife who is essentially handicapped, I have my hands full.
Lovely looking place. Glad to hear someone is looking after it.
Thanks. Less expensive to buy than people think. To repair however….
And here is an interior photo. Rest of house is too messy. Note: Built in late 1800’s for a Proctor&Gambol executive. Walking distance from first soap factory built in 1837.
One more photo
What entered my mind almost immediately was: What ever happened to: “First, do no harm”?
In previous posts here, more than one person has noted that that oath is not required anymore.
It officially ended in 2020 when the medical profession put acting as marketing reps for Pfizer ahead of patients’ health
Officially. But it was unofficially”forgotten” before that. Wink wink. Nudge nudge. Say no more.😉
They aren’t getting enough babies for moloch so they are now sacrificing the ones they missed to baal
Considering that medical waste including dead babies and the body parts of kids is disposed of by incineration — literally a burnt offering — that’s a frighteningly apt viewpoint. It matters not the name of the demonic god the offering is being made to, they’re all the same thing anyway.
This sort of butchery is accelerating with new laws like the recent horror written by Scott Wiener (CA senator), SB 107, which was passed into law and will take effect on January 1, 2023. Basically, it will remove custody rights from a parent who does not affirm a child’s “gender” choice. Add to that insanity, this legislation has inspired other states to introduce similar “trans refuge state” bills, including Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and West Virginia.
Here is the “praise” from the CA pervert’s (Wiener’s) mouth (web site) for this attrocity:
https://sd11.senate.ca.gov/news/20220930-senator-wiener%E2%80%99s-historic-bill-provide-refuge-trans-kids-and-their-families-signed-law
As some commenters on the Rumble page have stated:
I hope the backlash that comes back against the “people” that pushed this onto these children and young teens is violently disproportionate.I genuinely hope these parents go vigilante on these monsters.Anyone who sexually mutilates a child should be publicly executed…. and the list goes on ….All of the evils attributed to Sodom and Gomorrah of the Old Testament have been resurrected in our midst.
Now, one may think that the deniers’ claims that what I’ve written above is a lie. For example, such denials are easily found online. However, here is the relevant text from the bill’s preamble (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB107):
If you have children or know peole who have children, then it is time to share this knowledge with them. Many State governments are determined to steal our kids in order to pervert both their minds and bodies. The Hitler Youth were just a small foreshadowing of the relentless evil to come.
If we need a semi-official data source on part of this, just this morning I found this citation: https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transgender-estimate-press-release/ for a UCLA Law School report on a 2022 survey of the transgender population. While I had read before that the transgender population was 0.6% (or 0.006) of the total, and this article reaffirms that, the total population they end up with is 1.6 million rather than the 1.92 million I get from a 320 million total population. “Approximately 1.6 million people ages 13 and older—0.6% of the population—identify as transgender in the United States…”
I was directed to this source from Michael Schellenberger’s Public Substack: https://public.substack.com/p/psychopathy-and-misogyny-behind-trans with a guest submittal by CHRISTINA BUTTONS. Near the bottom she says: “It’s essential to note that radical Left trans activists do not represent the entire population of individuals who identify as transgender. In the U.S., approximately 1.64 million people identify as transgender—a number that has surged in the past decade. Many activists within this sphere aren’t transgender themselves but consider themselves “allies.” “
Now, where is the Ben Crump of transgender lawsuits? For once those sharks may end up being beneficial for society. But our real goal has to be to bring suitable suits (and indictments) prior to surgery or medication, whether for blackmail and extortion as Scott suggests, or some other criminal charge. Threatening assault in some form, maybe??? Certainly violation of any reasonable professional ethics.
…down the chute in a charnel house, an abattoir…
Perfect description of our naive adolescent lambs rounded up by knowing butchers..
The history of these times will be excoriated as the most diabolical, hedonistic and evil times in the history of humanity. I don’t ever want to know if what comes after is worse. The Aztecs and Romans and all the horrors of antiquity and even as close in time as Nazi Germany have nothing on this.
All the adult parties involved in the vivisection of our young: parents, doctors, social workers, teachers, influencers, and politicians who promote and push this evil belong in jail after they have personally endured what was done to these children under so-called medical auspices.
What is happening is beyond human understanding, at least it is for normal people who aren’t mentally ill or flat out evil.