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Why Black People Resist Arrest: Is It a Natural Reaction to an Unjust Justice System?

“Resisting is desperation,” says Mike Muse in a column at Medium.com attempting to explain “Why Black People Resist Arrest”. With police brutality, racial injustice, and mob violence in the news daily, it’s time to take a look at some of the underlying motivations.

“Resisting is desperation,” says Mike Muse in a column at Medium.com attempting to explain “Why Black People Resist Arrest”. With police brutality, racial injustice, and mob violence in the news daily, it’s time to take a look at some of the underlying motivations.

Here’s a

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A good friend of mine, a retired police sergeant and Falklands vet., has had experience of this. He’s a very open and accepting chap and loathes racism to his marrow. Yet he candidly admits that the ralations between police in the UK and young black men are the least positive of any group, closely followed by young Indian/Asian men and white yougn white men. He says he heart would sink when he saw a group of young black lads up to no good on his patch. He couldn’t ingore it, but he knew it would rarely end well. It is a vicious circle. In any encounter with the police how you behave will be a major factor in how they behave, and vice versa.
I know here the police, especially the Met. have fallen over themselves to try to change this. They’ve changed recruiting, training, systems, you name it. White guys on Met police recruiting posters are as rare as pandas.
What I’m not seeing is any real acknowldgement of this from leftists/journos and the “opinion forming” classes. They still bang on the “racists police” drum and rile up the black community. The general culture of low achevement, and antiauthority attitudes is not just tolerated but celebrated.
We can’t have any sort of conversation when one group is just shouting and screaming. Again, as is generally the case, to win this fight we need to get into the culture.

Scott when you came off the crane, did you verbally assault the COPS? Did you attempt to take their weapon or Tazer? Did you stick your head in the cruiser and fight the Officer? Hmmm?
Scott the problem in this country is sin. Also, the destruction of the American family, and the Black family in particularly, have been hard hit by this. What has that produced? Angry youth who for the most part, have never had father figures in their lives.
This is a problem in the White community as well.
During our upbringings Scott we were taught about respect but that was a different country.
One would be stupid if they did not take the numbers into consideration concerning violent crimes directed towards law enforcement. COP’s must protect themselves while at the same time protecting the public.

Scott leaves out many important details in the previous story as well. When him and his friend started to play box, how many times before this did Scott instigate a match of play boxing with other buddies? When he mentions one bring pushed by the other, who was it that escalated the play boxing and took it to what doesn’t sound at all like fun and games with a shove that destroyed property. Sounds to me like you should not leave out the details. Sounds to me like race had nothing to do with how different kids wete disciplined of this was behavior that was regular from the boy who visits the principles office often.

Chicago Native here. There’s a point that there is social conditioning to fear police that leads to uncooperative behavior, in EVERY poor, low class community regardless of race. The same goes for violence against each other and against police. I was born and raised in the Southside of Chicago, without looking at my skin color, I am automatically assumed to be uncouth, uneducated, bad mannered, low class and it’s expected that I’ll physically lash out in any tense situation. There are people from the neighborhood who did act like that, but in the white neighborhoods they were looked down on and children were reminded who not to act like. I watched the opposite become the norm in black neighborhoods. I also watched my black classmates harassed for speaking properly, seeking educations and better jobs, working hard and moving up and out.

When I was in 4th grade corporal punishment was still allowed in my school. There was a little black girl in my class named Tammy who sometimes didn’t have her homework to turn in. Mrs. Langford would call for the assignments to be turned in and when Tammy didn’t have hers, Mrs. Langford would bring out the big wooden paddle and paddle Tammy at the front of the room for all the class to see – Tammy would then make her way, crying quietly, back to her desk. I’ve never forgotten how heart-broken that made me feel – maybe there was something going on at home that caused Tammy to not do her homework that night, maybe she didn’t understand the assignment, did Mrs. Langford know or even care what the situation might be? On the other hand, one day I was talking in the lunch line to the boy behind me – talking was not allowed – and Mrs. Langford caught us and told us we’d be paddled after lunch. I remember being terrified, it would hurt – I’d be humiliated. As the afternoon dragged on and the paddle didn’t appear my anxiety and dread continued to grow; finally Mrs. Langford called me and the boy to her desk and told us the paddle was being used elsewhere and to let this be a lesson to us to not talk in the lunch line…we were white children…and didn’t get paddled. As I said, I’ve never forgotten this experience, even after half a century…I doubt I ever will…I’m sure little Tammy Abernathy never did either.

“We need a calm, facts and figures conversation…” – Steve Green
“Imagine ending careers over wrong opinions about pies, then demanding a “national Conversation” about pies.
See the problem now?” – Morgan Freeberg
They don’t want a conversation. They want a monologue.

…Or perhaps a stern lecture. Edict?
The “correct” opinion has been shoved down our throats. Now, all that we have to do is act like good little servants and agree.

Or from the High Priestess of White Fragility Robin DiAngelo:
“These patterns are the foundation of white fragility: …[a list that includes] Confusing disagreement with not understanding” White Fragility page 68
The only way out of the accusation is confession & penitence. Forever.

Scott, I’d also be interested in what the stats are fo black men over 40 who interact w/ the cops vs guys 16-32. Controlling for intoxication and prior records.

Course of a year or two? Bill, CHOP security murdered a 14yr old who drove a stolen vehicle in to the CHIOP zone. And if the audio is to be believed, the security guy walked over to the kid and said “You ain’t dead yet?” And then shot him some more.

That is sad beyond words…And a perfect example of the “victims” victimizing.

When I was a teenager, not yet driving through the time where I started to drive, I played travel ball and our coach was a local cop. Paulie sat us all down at the beginning of the season and told us what to do when we were stopped for speeding. (Note: he assumed that a bunch of teenage guys would get stopped for speeding at some point early on). He basically told us, almost 40 years ago, what Chris Rock had in his act. Turn off the car, Roll down the window, keep your hands on the wheel and Be Polite. He let us know that stopping someone gets an officer’s heart pumping because they don’t know who they just stopped. His advice was to do nothing that could escalate the situation. I have always used that advice. It has gotten me out of a least two tickets.
We lived in a pretty ethnically diverse area, and I know that many of my teammates have had different experiences, and they definitely went into the situation with a different outlook.

My HS entire coaching staff moonlighted as county cops. I never got pulled over but I heard that if you did, you didn’t get a ticket, it was push-ups on the side of the road and special attention in PE class for the next couple weeks.

Amren is an interesting site – a lot of their stuff is a good read (or YouTube view), but sometimes they get into language that sounds like a Leftist’s stereotype of how Conservatives talk about race. You can see that in parts of the story you linked

I looked around when I first found the article, but didn’t find anything else interesting. Never bothered going back. So I don’t know anything about them

I cannot see that people who behave reasonably are in more danger of arrest and prosecution because they are black.
First, that requires the person to be in some situation that would be deemed suspect. This does not mean that the person is guilty of anything, at all. It would mean that police might consider it their job to investigate.
Then, there would have to be an interaction with law enforcement. Once the police begin to investigate, there would almost certainly be some some cautious approach to a potential threat (white, black, hispanic, or asian) until the facts are known.
Then, the officer would need to have an articulable and legal reason for that arrest. This is where I find the “driving while black” argument invalid on its face. In any state in the Union, an officer arresting (or citing) a person for being black is in for some trouble. Real trouble. Police in this day and age have ticket quotas and unspoken incentives to get revenue from drivers. If the officers went to court and simply stated that they need to fill quotas they would be in hot water. So, they have to have a reason. Today, we have a great way to combat false testimony for the purpose of collecting funds from drivers. Dash cams, smart phones, and onboard computers can be used as exculpatory evidence for the accused. The same utility can be enjoyed by people that believe that they were treated unfairly because they are minorities. Of course, this goes beyond traffic tickets, and the same ever present technology still applies to keeping officers honest.
These three elements are true for a person of any race, color, creed, religion, etc. Once in custody, if the person resists in a physically violent manner, regardless of those three categories, an officer is going to ascend the force continuum at the speed of necessity. Some go too far. The numbers tell us that around twice the number of unarmed white men are shot by peace officers in the United States. That tells me that a favorable outcome is certainly not always the case to white males.
Where Trump signed into law measures to keep black men from unduly suffering at the hands of the system, I hope that any injustice that does exist is dashed to bits and burned to ashes in a very public and very embarrassing way for every last crooked member of that system.. Where democrat run areas (New York City) have Stop & Frisk policies allegedly aimed at minorities, I sincerely hope that those elected bigots are operating fast food windows after the next election. Still, the same people that claim that they are systematically hunted down by white police officers elect the same politicians that enact and maintain these violations of ALL people’s rights.
I do not treat black people badly. I don’t need, will not accept the screeching, screaming, hysterical, building burning, woman beating, storefront looting, grievance culture activist to get in my face with rhetoric pulled from CNN. I will, however, sit and calmly discuss matters with anyone that can articulate an opinion…And if a person can do that, his or her chances of a bad episode with local police officers are lowered dramatically.
If such a person is ever banished to the bad lands of New England, send them my way. I never mind a good chat with reasonable folks.

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