Not sure if it’s the best TSL ever, but I think it’s in the top three. Recorded 06/22/23
Not sure if it’s the best TSL ever, but I think it’s in the top three.
Not sure if it’s the best TSL ever, but I think it’s in the top three. Recorded 06/22/23
8 replies on “The Stratosphere Lounge Episode 369: The Titanic Sub Edition”
Thank you so much for the story about your Dad. My Dad was the same although he took his life it was bcause he had leukemia and was not going to let himself bcome an invalid who needed to b taken care of but toward the end we’d talked and he’d said he’d done everything he’d wanted to; learned to fly, had his own plane, gone to Alaska and fished, hunted all over Az. He was happy with his life. I miss him but never regretted his decision to go out the man he’d always been and the Dad i admired.
WOW, incredible episode Bill. You are truly a gentleman and scholar. I think this is the first complete episode of TSL that I have watched from start to finish and your knowledge and compassion were both on full display throughout the entire show. This loss of life was tragic but only for those who are left behind. As you said, they never knew a second of unhappiness or worry. I hope that you have many, many more years to produce episodes on the Cold War and other topics that you love because we really need the true history lessons to pass along to our children and grandchildren. Love and blessings to you and yours.
Bill, great close!
I would like to add to the lexicon. The culmination of the mixture of arrogance and ineptitude like we saw with the sub will now be known as “A Stockton Event”.
On the hubris of Stockton Rush, I would like to leave this quote from Babylon 5:
Lt. Corwin: “See, Commander? No boom.”
Cdr. Susan Ivanova: “No boom TODAY. Boom tomorrow. Always boom tomorrow.”
For one, Bill, I am not in any way dissuading anyone from pursuing their quest for history, or to be in awe, or to have a spiritual experience while encountering Gettysburg or Washington’s dividers or anything else.
My objection is the use of public resources (without reimbursement, which I have to assume is the case) to track down and “discover” what happened with the submersible. By all means, do what you want to do — but you do so at your own risk. Not the public’s. You are being disingenuous when you posit that these people (who are now dead) are paying the bill. They are not. They ponied up $250K per person to set off on this “adventure”. But the actual cost of this “adventure” transcends by far what was paid to Stockton Rush’s company.
The amount of public resources called in to address this media “storm” is staggering. Estimates peg the cost at millions, to include the use of various ships, aircraft, and ROVs. All of this to rescue five individuals in a submersible vessel who knew the risks, but went anyway.
Do you think for a moment that Oceangate is going to reimburse the public (U.S., France, U.K.) for their assistance? I highly doubt it, especially considering the pinching pennies that Rush seemed to favor with his hiring, per your own criticism of him.
The “adventurers” rolled the dice — and lost. My condolences to their families.
Maybe we can say it was good training for the first responders. I agree with you – just trying to see something good in this.
I believe you’re correct, Bill. This is the best TSL I’ve listened too. Thank you for it!